Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Exactly, this is prolly the script with every KK high feat I've ever seen. BTW, not once was Mon-El even injured in that fight.KK spun im around and used his flight speed against him. Wow. "Impressive". FYI, that was sarcasm. That feat fails. 👇
Edit. You seriously arguing that making Mon-El look like a bafoon as a high feat but making Thanos look like a bafoon isn't? Wow.
val wasn't even trying to harm him!! why? because m'onel was brainwashed and on top of that, m'onel stated beforehand that val had the means to actually KILL metas in his class. read the book.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
val wasn't even trying to harm him!! why? because m'onel was brainwashed
His "intentions" during this battle does not enhance this feat whatsoever. This was a defensive feat, in no part of this fight did he ever strike or hit Mon El (if we're both talking about the same scan), so "holding back" is irrelevant.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
and on top of that, m'onel stated beforehand that val had the means to actually KILL metas in his class.
Good thing hyperbole isn't admissible as a feat isn't it? Spiderman stated that Sentry could stalemate Galactus, too. Just because someone says it, doesn't make it true. Post feats of him doing this and we'll talk.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
read the book.
read the debating rules, it seems you need a refresher.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
His "intentions" during this battle does not enhance this feat whatsoever. This was a defensive feat, in no part of this fight did he ever strike or hit Mon El (if we're both talking about the same scan), so "holding back" is irrelevant.Good thing hyperbole isn't admissible as a feat isn't it? Spiderman stated that Sentry could stalemate Galactus, too. Just because someone says it, doesn't make it true. Post feats of him doing this and we'll talk.
read the debating rules, it seems you need a refresher.
post feats of gamora actually doing something like defeating a top tier and then i'll concede. 🙂 thanos feat wasn't impressive. val would do the same.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
post feats of gamora actually doing something like defeating a top tier and then i'll concede. 🙂 thanos feat wasn't impressive. val would do the same.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7167/annihilation3016es2.jpg
Terrax is easily herald level, with herald level durability, even though he was not at 100%, and we KNOW he's a horrid jobber, but she literally owns his face and was about to kill him before Stardust intervenes. She also pounds Ronan down easily in their fights, ending only when Ronan matter manips the Godslayer causing it to go BOOM to KO them both.
Originally posted by Juntai
Val chopping off Equus' arm..
Not sure if you know that character much, but that's a Superman enemy, lol.
Luthor is a Superman enemy, too. Who someone fights is irrelevant really. Otherwise, I'd point out that Thanos is a team wrecker that would pimp slap Superman to oblivion, Ronan is a FF/Surfer enemy and Terrax is a Surfer enemy...
Impressive feat, I'll admit, but it's yet ANOTHER super powered MA noob/brute who underestimates him and loses cuz of it. Story of KK's life and feats isn't it?
Originally posted by Juntai
Val chopping off Equus' arm..
Not sure if you know that character much, but that's a Superman enemy, lol.
yeah, supposedly silver age val. here are the scans. also keep in mind that val is also sick with the virus and he STILL surprised Equus.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5VgL6ZXwkaw/Rtb4n5O2MbI/AAAAAAAAD-4/SFNFueMIh8M/s1600-h/Countdown+35-3.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5VgL6ZXwkaw/Rs2hXJO2L2I/AAAAAAAAD5s/mXzWdcjq_QA/s1600-h/Countdown+36-3.jpg
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7167/annihilation3016es2.jpgTerrax is easily herald level, with herald level durability, even though he was not at 100%, and we KNOW he's a horrid jobber, but she literally owns his face and was about to kill him before Stardust intervenes. She also pounds
Luthor is a Superman enemy, too. Who someone fights is irrelevant really. Otherwise, I'd point out that Thanos is a team wrecker that would pimp slap Superman to oblivion, Ronan is a FF/Surfer enemy and Terrax is a Surfer enemy...
Impressive feat, I'll admit, but it's yet ANOTHER super powered MA noob/brute who underestimates him and loses cuz of it. Story of KK's life and feats isn't it?
you keep pointing out ma noobs, yet gamora hasn't gone up against anyone in val's league. she's gone up against terrax, warlock, dumb drax, thanos, etc... who aren't even martial artists. keep trying.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
i didn't say noob, just not on the level of val, who has mastered ALL forms of martial arts. he eats, sleeps, breaths, and shits kung fu. with enhanced speed, reflexes, senses, and strength. big difference.
You didn't say "couldn't match KK's skill" on your previous post, you said:
Originally posted by Prep-Man
who aren't even martial artists. keep trying.
You might want to revise what you said.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
yeah, supposedly silver age val. here are the scans. also keep in mind that val is also sick with the virus and he STILL surprised Equus.http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5VgL6ZXwkaw/Rtb4n5O2MbI/AAAAAAAAD-4/SFNFueMIh8M/s1600-h/Countdown+35-3.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5VgL6ZXwkaw/Rs2hXJO2L2I/AAAAAAAAD5s/mXzWdcjq_QA/s1600-h/Countdown+36-3.jpg
I loved it when they brought the original KK back. He takes this with no problem. It looked like he didn't miss a beat. I could care less for the actual story, but whatever.
Can you post the scans of KK Vs Batman?
Originally posted by cloud102
I loved it when they brought the original KK back. He takes this with no problem. It looked like he didn't miss a beat. I could care less for the actual story, but whatever.Can you post the scans of KK Vs Batman?
uh the only scan i have is the one i posted in the beginning. i agree, though, val didn't miss a beat. it sucks that he died so quickly.
Originally posted by cloud102
I loved it when they brought the original KK back. He takes this with no problem. It looked like he didn't miss a beat. I could care less for the actual story, but whatever.
Do you have any evidence to support why KK would win or do you just think he'd win because you love the character?
I'm thinking the latter, if so, ignore me.
Anyway, in closing, Gamora w/ Godslayer fights at a different level as KK. Even tho, skill-wise KK does have the upper hand, the difference in skill is not enough to compensate for the difference in strength, speed, agility, durability and regenerative ability as well as an added cosmic weapon. Feats for feats, Gamora can match all of KK's valid feats pre-upgrade. I'd still say KK is the better martial artist, but the difference isn't THAT far as let's say Mon-El vs KK.
Post-upgrade, Gamora takes it with after a good fight 9/10. With the Godslayer, it's an utter stomp, Gamora 10/10.