Originally posted by truejedi
obviously the word sarcasm just doesn't register with you.Fine.
Prove to me that Revan didn't blow them up with mines.
Here is proof that Revan is not an unknown AND that he didn't blow up everyone on the Star Forge with mines:
In the game, It is stated that Revan personally killed Mandalore and was stronger then Malak. We see him force choke someone in a flashback so we know he knows that. Zhar (a REAL unknown) said he was charismatic and powerful and his most promising pupil. It is confirmed canon that Revan fought Malak on the Leviathen. It was cramped quarters and Revan never had time to lay mines. AND he never had time to lay mines when he fought people like Calo Nord, Darth Bandon, and Dark Side Bastila. Blaster fire can be deflected (and almost always is when you fight lightsaber wielding individuals in the game) and it would be suicide to use that. This means that Revan is: Very powerful in the force, very skilled with a sword (just like Naga Sadow whose sword actually came into Revan's possession in the game.) Very skilled with a Lightsaber, or all 3. On the Star Forge, the Sith that came after him came after him in droves with like, 2 minute breaks. Revan wouldn't have time to lay mines and even if he did, The Sith would just attack him from afar with blasters and Dark Force powers. Finally, on the Star Forge, Revan first wounded Malak who then revealed that he could use stasis Jedi to heal himself and once again, Revan had no time to lay mines. Therefore, Revan had to have been skilled enough, either with the force or some kind of melee weapon to be able to wound Malak, destroy his healing sources (which could only be affected with the force) and then kill him and not just throw his boot at him and kill him like Lord Lucien suggested. The same applies when he fought Dark Side Bastila on the Star Forge. He didn't have time to lay mines and using a blaster would not have worked. If that's not good enough for you, then I give up.
Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001Seriously, want don't you get? Your gameplay is different that mine, or anyone else's. Whether there was "time" or not do something in gameplay has no meaning on canon. Jesus...
Here is proof that Revan is not an unknown AND that he didn't blow up everyone on the Star Forge with mines:
In the game, It is stated that Revan personally killed Mandalore and was stronger then Malak. We see him force choke someone in a flashback so we know he knows that. Zhar (a REAL unknown) said he was charismatic and powerful and his most promising pupil. It is confirmed canon that Revan fought Malak on the Leviathen. It was cramped quarters and Revan never had time to lay mines. AND he never had time to lay mines when he fought people like Calo Nord, Darth Bandon, and Dark Side Bastila. Blaster fire can be deflected (and almost always is when you fight lightsaber wielding individuals in the game) and it would be suicide to use that. This means that Revan is: Very powerful in the force, very skilled with a sword (just like Naga Sadow whose sword actually came into Revan's possession in the game.) Very skilled with a Lightsaber, or all 3. On the Star Forge, the Sith that came after him came after him in droves with like, 2 minute breaks. Revan wouldn't have time to lay mines and even if he did, The Sith would just attack him from afar with blasters and Dark Force powers. Finally, on the Star Forge, Revan first wounded Malak who then revealed that he could use stasis Jedi to heal himself and once again, Revan had no time to lay mines. Therefore, Revan had to have been skilled enough, either with the force or some kind of melee weapon to be able to wound Malak, destroy his healing sources (which could only be affected with the force) and then kill him and not just throw his boot at him and kill him like Lord Lucien suggested. The same applies when he fought Dark Side Bastila on the Star Forge. He didn't have time to lay mines and using a blaster would not have worked. If that's not good enough for you, then I give up.
Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001
Here is proof that Revan is not an unknown AND that he didn't blow up everyone on the Star Forge with mines:
In the game, It is stated that Revan personally killed Mandalore and was stronger then Malak. We see him force choke someone in a flashback so we know he knows that. Zhar (a REAL unknown) said he was charismatic and powerful and his most promising pupil. It is confirmed canon that Revan fought Malak on the Leviathen. It was cramped quarters and Revan never had time to lay mines. AND he never had time to lay mines when he fought people like Calo Nord, Darth Bandon, and Dark Side Bastila. Blaster fire can be deflected (and almost always is when you fight lightsaber wielding individuals in the game) and it would be suicide to use that. This means that Revan is: Very powerful in the force, very skilled with a sword (just like Naga Sadow whose sword actually came into Revan's possession in the game.) Very skilled with a Lightsaber, or all 3. On the Star Forge, the Sith that came after him came after him in droves with like, 2 minute breaks. Revan wouldn't have time to lay mines and even if he did, The Sith would just attack him from afar with blasters and Dark Force powers. Finally, on the Star Forge, Revan first wounded Malak who then revealed that he could use stasis Jedi to heal himself and once again, Revan had no time to lay mines. Therefore, Revan had to have been skilled enough, either with the force or some kind of melee weapon to be able to wound Malak, destroy his healing sources (which could only be affected with the force) and then kill him and not just throw his boot at him and kill him like Lord Lucien suggested. The same applies when he fought Dark Side Bastila on the Star Forge. He didn't have time to lay mines and using a blaster would not have worked. If that's not good enough for you, then I give up.
You forget that stealth is also an option in the game. I took out quite a few opponents by sneaking up on them and shooting them in the back of the head. Plus, mines DID work. According to KOTOR, Revan is FASTER than anyone else. You can be in mid- combat, change your mind, and RUN AWAY. After getting a considerable distance away, you can drop mines, shoot at the enemy with a blaster, and they come charging down the corridor. (RUNNING INTO THE MINES)
Also, if Revan was smart (and when I played, him, he was) He would set mines around Malak WHILE Malak was healing. In doing this, the second Malak is healed, he comes charging into mines.
It was possible DarthDaniel, i know more than one person who beat the game without ever using a melee weapon.
Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001Probably the best thing to do. Arguing gameplay as feats for Revan is like saying Michael Jackson's moonwalking with Elvis right now: Preslies+Jackson's don't mix.
Interesting. But again, the mines won't always work, because like I said, some people would just attack him with dark force powers and blasters. And I have got to play the game you do sometime. Oh, and I give up.
Wait...
Originally posted by truejedi
You forget that stealth is also an option in the game. I took out quite a few opponents by sneaking up on them and shooting them in the back of the head. Plus, mines DID work. According to KOTOR, Revan is FASTER than anyone else. You can be in mid- combat, change your mind, and RUN AWAY. After getting a considerable distance away, you can drop mines, shoot at the enemy with a blaster, and they come charging down the corridor. (RUNNING INTO THE MINES)Also, if Revan was smart (and when I played, him, he was) He would set mines around Malak WHILE Malak was healing. In doing this, the second Malak is healed, he comes charging into mines.
It was possible DarthDaniel, i know more than one person who beat the game without ever using a melee weapon.
So then in this hypothetical battle couldn't he also just run away (since he's very fast) and lay down mines? Are mines allowed?
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
So then in this hypothetical battle couldn't he also just run away (since he's very fast) and lay down mines? Are mines allowed?
sure he could, but his opponents in this match are a bit smarter than the villians from Kotor, and they wouldn't madly follow him down the corridor. Especially since it is a team match. They would just stick around and wipe out the rest of his team, till he is way down a corridor by himself, and all his teammates are dead.