Originally posted by MindsetAnd what specific MM-feat contradicts a cyber program's ability to wipe a certain memory from his mind? None that I can think of.
We already ignore low feats if most other feats contradict it.
I mean, it's not like MM would have been prepared, or even aware, that it was happening. It just.... Happened. MM's raw power has absolutely nothing to do with Tony's tech being able to affect his MIND. Nothing at all.
Originally posted by MindsetYes it happened. I can't remember the specific issue number, but it was posted in the IM respect thread. Tony designed a cyber program that had the sole purpose of infiltrating the minds of all the villains who knew his secret identity, then eradicating that memory from their minds entirely. And Molecule Man was among the villains specifically depicted/mentioned in that scene.
Did it ever actually happen?So Tony could affect most reality warpers with this tech?
The raw power at his disposal wouldn't come into play where mind-related-attacks are concerned. Nothing he's done on panel suggests any kind of enhanced resistance to that sort of 'attack'. Multiversal power or not.
Originally posted by Merlyn
👇If that were the case, the MOD would have simply ceased to be. If that were the case, there would have been no need for Clyde and the MOD's final battle, because there would have been no MOD. Because that was certainly not the case, we can logically assume all things still happened as were displayed (inc. MOD's owning of MM.)
Uhhh what? We actually SEE Clyde get awakened BEFORE he was when he supposedly killed all those villains and discovered his taste for slaughter? Are you suggesting there are multiple Clydes and MoD's? He can from a universe outside the prime multiverse which means there's only one Clyde Wyncham.
Originally posted by MerlynIIRC, Tony used his cyber program to wipe the specific memory of his secret identity from all the villains who knew it (MM was clearly shown amongst them.) So IF we are for some reason assuming Owen allowed his mind to be tampered with, then we must also assume every one of the other villains allowed their minds to be tampered with. Though that notion may sound ridiculous, we have to be fair.... Right?
And let me know when the LT states that any of them
are one of the most powerful beings in the Omniverse.
... then come back with that cyberyidiyadagoble.
Originally posted by MerlynBut I'm not arguing with your stance, because now I can forget darn near every low feat my character has, because most of them weren't shown or mentioned more than once. So.... Thanks!
Originally posted by MindsetWe already ignore low feats if most other feats contradict it.
Originally posted by MerlynYes it happened. I can't remember the specific issue number, but it was posted in the IM respect thread. Tony designed a cyber program that had the sole purpose of infiltrating the minds of all the villains who knew his secret identity, then eradicating that memory from their minds entirely. And Molecule Man was among the villains specifically depicted/mentioned in that scene.
All we see is Tony's claim,
and a cpu image of villains that include Owen.
It has never been depicted on panel,
anything even alluding to this being a fact,
other than a single verbal claim in that Iron Man issue.
Originally posted by MerlynThe raw power at his disposal wouldn't come into play where mind-related-attacks are concerned. Nothing he's done on panel suggests any kind of enhanced resistance to that sort of 'attack'. Multiversal power or not.
I see you don't know much about Owen's history,
scans coming up. 🙂
And that's Omniversal power dude.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Obviously everything still happened as was portrayed. Otherwise, by your line of 'logic', Clyde being 'woken up' before he discovered his taste for death, would have changed things in such a way that the MoD would have ceased to exist... There would have never even been a MoD, in fact. This of course is/was not the case at all.
Uhhh what? We actually SEE Clyde get awakened BEFORE he was when he supposedly killed all those villains and discovered his taste for slaughter? Are you suggesting there are multiple Clydes and MoD's? He can from a universe outside the prime multiverse which means there's only one Clyde Wyncham.
Originally posted by Mr MasterWhich of course refers solely to his raw power. NOT any kind of resistence to the type of 'attack' Tony used.
Let me know when any of the other villains shown
have warped reality
across the realities of the Omniverse. 🙂And let me know when the LT states that any of them
are one of the most powerful beings in the Omniverse.
Originally posted by Mr MasterI challenge you to shown me one "false" statement I made.
False.All we see is Tony's claim,
and a cpu image of villains that include Owen.It has never been depicted on panel,
anything even alluding to this being a fact,
other than a single verbal claim in that Iron Man issue.
But of course the depiction of Owen's image + Tony's claim must have been wrong. Obviously we can't take things like that seriously when they concern your favorite characters.
Get real.
Originally posted by Mr MasterSave 'em. ALL the scans you post would be from a F4 annual (#27, IIRC.) And anyone who's read that issue would know as much about post retcon Owen, as there is to know.
I see you don't know much about Owen's history,
scans coming up. 🙂And that's Omniversal power dude.
And once again, NOTHING in that issue pertains to Owen having ANY sort of resistence to the type of 'attack' Tony used to erase a memory from his mind. Not one thing.