MewTwo vs Kain

He never even bothered TKing Mew. They went straight to attacks.

Exactley, so Mew has no feats against TK.....M2 just suddenly decided his Tk is prob worthless and needed a shadowball even though psychic types still obviously work well against eachother.

We can't say MewTwo used a Shadow Ball. At the time it wasn't an invented move. Besides, look at it. It has bolts of energy around it.

Lolfail. Wrongo, sir, one, psychics resist psychic attacks.

Two, MewTwo never even used his TK on Mew, likewise, Mew didn't use it's TK on MewTwo.

Three, even against psychic types, MewTwo's TK has been an instant win every other time. And he never even used it in this isntance. Mew is the original, and shares MewTwo's powers, wanna see Darth Vader try to force choke Anakin Skywalker?

Obvioulsy not in canon otherwise Allakazam would not have been affected.

Erm, well Darth vader probably would, it would still be an effective move....

Originally posted by Burning thought
Obvioulsy not in canon otherwise Allakazam would not have been affected.

Erm, well Darth vader probably would, it would still be an effective move....

Do you now understand how vastly more powerful MewTwo is than Alakazam? Mew is on the same level.

BT, in terms of the pokeverse, MewTwo TKing Alakazam is sort of like..... God putting out a fire with more fire, just because he can.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
BT, in terms of the pokeverse, MewTwo TKing Alakazam is sort of like..... God putting out a fire with more fire, just because he can.

or just using superior TK to break Allakazam, I think your take the gameplay of the cards too deeply, power>weaker power, in this case Kains mind>>>M2 mind powers actual feats.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Do you now understand how vastly more powerful MewTwo is than Alakazam? Mew is on the same level.

Thing is this does not explain anything, M2 being more powerful than Allakazam still does not stop him from using TK.

Originally posted by Burning thought
or just using superior TK to break Allakazam, I think your take the gameplay of the cards too deeply, power>weaker power, in this case Kains mind>>>M2 mind powers actual feats.

Thing is this does not explain anything, M2 being more powerful than Allakazam still does not stop him from using TK.

Alakazam can display TK on a level Kain cannot compete with. MewTwo conquers his mind in a Psychic battle. MewTwo's psychic powers are something Kain can't ever achieve.

/headdesk. Why would MewTwo being more powerful than Alakazam stop him from using TK? You make no sense. 😐

Gameplay of cards? Fact in canon: Psychic moves are less effective against psychic types, who inherently resist them.

Fact in canon. MewTwo destroyed the most powerful non-legendary psychic type in pokemon in an instant with psychic power.

God puttign out fire, with fire.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Alakazam can display TK on a level Kain cannot compete with. MewTwo conquers his mind in a Psychic battle. MewTwo's psychic powers are something Kain can't ever achieve.

M2 conquers his mind, but looking at vids nothing shows Allakazam mentally trying to stop M2 from wiping this little memory from his mind.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
/headdesk. Why would MewTwo being more powerful than Alakazam stop him from using TK? You make no sense. 😐

Gameplay of cards? Fact in canon: Psychic moves are less effective against psychic types, who inherently resist them.

Fact in canon. MewTwo destroyed the most powerful non-legendary psychic type in pokemon in an instant with psychic power.

God puttign out fire, with fire.

erm what? I think you misunderstood, I was saying Alakazam is weaker than M2, therefore he is defeated by M2, its nothing to do with God putting out fire....

Obviously this is irrelvent if a more powerful being uses better Tk than the other. Also where is this canon stated?

Whom? allakazam? either way it was either PIS or he realises his Tk is not up to scratch.

Originally posted by Burning thought
M2 conquers his mind, but looking at vids nothing shows Allakazam mentally trying to stop M2 from wiping this little memory from his mind.

erm what? I think you misunderstood, I was saying Alakazam is weaker than M2, therefore he is defeated by M2, its nothing to do with God putting out fire....

Obviously this is irrelvent if a more powerful being uses better Tk than the other. Also where is this canon stated?

Whom? allakazam? either way it was either PIS or he realises his Tk is not up to scratch.

I'm not even talking about MewTwo wiping his mind. Remember that little clip you mentioned about Alakazam's spoons being bent? Right before that Alakazam's trainer ordered it to attack MewTwo. MewTwo conquered Alakazam in a psychic battle.

You would be right. Alakazam is weaker than MewTwo, because MewTwo is insanely powerful.

I always enjoy it when you ask where things are stated and ask for feats. Your entire debating tactic involves attempting to downplay the feats of the other character because Kain has no overly impressive feats of his own.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Darth Vader try to force choke Anakin Skywalker?

Heh

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Heh

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It's relevant in the context. 😛

*Star Wars nerd activation*

Depends on what you want said, really 😛

Imagine MewTwo and Mew as super powerful Jedi.

The same reason they don't force-crush each other applies to Vader against any other Jedi, especially, say, another just like himself. 😛

Fay proved that the Jedi can protect themselves from even TK going on inside their body 😛

Which is kind of what I was poking at. A Jedi of comparable power can resist a forcecrush.

A pokemon of comparable power and typing, in this case, Mew vs MewTwo isn't going to be most affected by psychic attacks, due to their same typing.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I'm not even talking about MewTwo wiping his mind. Remember that little clip you mentioned about Alakazam's spoons being bent? Right before that Alakazam's trainer ordered it to attack MewTwo. MewTwo conquered Alakazam in a psychic battle.

You would be right. Alakazam is weaker than MewTwo, because MewTwo is insanely powerful.

I always enjoy it when you ask where things are stated and ask for feats. Your entire debating tactic involves attempting to downplay the feats of the other character because Kain has no overly impressive feats of his own.

Show me. What kind of Psychic battle.

He just hasn o ridiculous physical feats, but fortunaltey he does not need them, most of his powers bypass the physical. The only important thing in this battle is speed.

And MEwTwo is much faster than Kain.