Originally posted by Galan007Or maybe just focused at Vulcan.... never been clear if he can do that.
nor did the initial 'shout' disintegrate their surroundings. holding back, perhaps?
Or, apparently, absorbed by the bomb.
http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/?action=view¤t=bb7.jpg
Bottom right, bomb says it's absorbed an overload of energy. "Integrity compromised".
Originally posted by Original Smurphin "illuminati" #2, reed had to build a device which focused BB's voice to a central point, in order to tear through the fabric of reality. i don't see why that device would have been needed if BB were already capable of doing so on his own...?
Or maybe just focused at Vulcan.... never been clear if he can do that.
the bomb thing is a much better solution, though... i missed that the first time around. 👆
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Or maybe just focused at Vulcan.... never been clear if he can do that.Or, apparently, absorbed by the bomb.
http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/?action=view¤t=bb7.jpg
Bottom right, bomb says it's absorbed an overload of energy. "Integrity compromised".
Good catch
Originally posted by Galan007True. Plus, he's had to speak with his face against his target (be it a person's ear or the ground or something else) in the past to ensure that nothing else was affected).
in "illuminati" #2, reed had to build a device which focused BB's voice to a central point, in order to tear through the fabric of reality. i don't see why that device would have been needed if BB were already capable of doing so on his own...?
Originally posted by Galan007
in "illuminati" #2, reed had to build a device which focused BB's voice to a central point, in order to tear through the fabric of reality. i don't see why that device would have been needed if BB were already capable of doing so on his own...?the bomb thing is a much better solution, though... i missed that the first time around. 👆
Blackbolt has focused his voice before. Against Apocalypse in X-Factor it was a narrow beam rather then a wave that way he didn't harm the X-Men standing near him. Same goes for when Magneto had him under some sort of control and Blackbolt "spoke" with Mags standing right next to him. The machine that Reed built was an amplifier.
The bomb thing makes sense...although would it make a difference since the bomb went off anyway at the end of the issue.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Havok had sundipped to reach levels of power that we've never seen from him before or since, I believe. I don't actually know the other instance that you're talking about.Those feats that gave the voice hype still exist, including the abstract taking notice when he was about to scream. This one feat would just be a low showing, if you feel it's a let down- it's not like Black Bolt's voice doesn't have other low showings. One feat of a shout doesn't define the level of power that his voice emits at max, when we have so many other feats at varying levels. IMO, anyways.
It seemed to me that Vulcan was portrayed much more powerfully recently, and perhaps throughout these latest arcs, than he had been previously. I guess it seems to me that he's starting to realize his Omega potential.
If Vulcan goes on to become a ridiculously powerful energy manipulator, then this wouldn't actually be a low feat. It just seems speculatory to me to label Black Bolt's shout as anything until we see either more feats of it, or more feats of Vulcan.
Either way though, everybody has low feats, so meh. It is what it is.
you could be right. in retrospect it may seem stronger if vulcan is proven to be as powerful as he's been being portrayed. i agree that he's been shown to be stronger recently, which is nice actually.
it's possible i guess that the bomb absorbed some of it, but vulcan was right in his face--it would have struck vulcan before the bomb had the chance to absorb and lessen its impact on vulcan anyway.
i don't think i've ever really seen bb outright scream before (not counting the x-men/apoc battle which was a very weak and strange showing) but i remembered the celestial and the abstract thing, and again, it's the hype. still a formidable attack? of course. but when something is built up and hyped up (even in the forum) as much as the scream tends to be, well . . . it's tough for it to live up to i guess.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakA difference as to whether the bomb went off? No. However, if the bomb absorbs energy from his voice, it could explain why the environment wasn't destroyed, and possibly why Vulcan wasn't ash. srug
Blackbolt has focused his voice before. Against Apocalypse in X-Factor it was a narrow beam rather then a wave that way he didn't harm the X-Men standing near him. Same goes for when Magneto had him under some sort of control and Blackbolt "spoke" with Mags standing right next to him. The machine that Reed built was an amplifier.The bomb thing makes sense...although would it make a difference since the bomb went off anyway at the end of the issue.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
A difference as to whether the bomb went off? No. However, if the bomb absorbs energy from his voice, it could explain why the environment wasn't destroyed, and possibly why Vulcan wasn't ash. srug
😛 That's true, I just meant that I'm willing to put money that both Blackbolt and Vulcan survived that explosion. So whether or not they're ash would be kind of moot. The massive black hole was a nice touch though at least failure of character Rachel Grey won't be able to make it home.
Originally posted by bbrem123
if that was a full scream that hit vulcan then im thinking alot of people can take a hit from it
Ah, no. This is Vulcan were talking about, not alot of people would survive that at all. The same current Vulcan was taking power away from Adam Warlock, who one GOTG issue back transmuted an entire planet. Look back at SI: Inhuman where BB's whisper obliterated a skrull leaving only the guy's legs.
Originally posted by bbrem123
if that was a full scream that hit vulcan then im thinking alot of people can take a hit from it
Originally posted by jalek moye
No he didn't do a full scream untill the very end which is right when before the bomb went off. His voice is what caused tear in reality, the bomb wasn't supposed to do that otherwise that woould mess the plan because it would tear the shiar world apart sintead of mutating them with the mist
The Guardians warned him that the bomb would tear a hole in reality.
Originally posted by jalek moye
his voice was stated to be able to aswell in an different issueand wasn't it not supposed to though? i mean even Maximus is surprised
So Maximus in infallible? He could have mis-calculated
Still Blackbolts voice powered a good 61% of the bomb, since it was at 39% before it exploded. So in a sense BB voice caused it. It would be an even greater feat if Vulcan survived
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Black Bolts voice isn't what he's all about. I wish people would realize that. The yell he shot at Vulcan was no where near a full scream. Me thinks Vulcan would've been vaporized had it been.
So in desperation that Vulcan is about to kill him and end his plans for peace, for which he sacrificed his life, BB yells a half hearted scream
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Black Bolts voice isn't what he's all about. I wish people would realize that. The yell he shot at Vulcan was no where near a full scream. Me thinks Vulcan would've been vaporized had it been.
But don't you think they implied that he finally fully screamed at the very end
