Wolverine vs. Freddy

Contenders

Scenario: Wolverine falls asleep and Freddy gets into his head/dream.

Rules
Location: Boiler Room (Dreamworld)
Time: Night
Prep Time: -
Time Limit: -
No back holding (fighting at 100%): On (both)
Bloodlust (willing to kill): On (both)
Beserk (only running forward for the kill): Off (both)
BFR: Off (both)
PIS: Off (both)
CIS: Off (both)

Special Rules: -

Note: The reason why I'm doing this is I remeber reading this matchup 1 or 2 years ago somewhere else and I personally couldn't believe that anyone was going with Wolverine in this. In my opinion this matchup is spite but I'm still doing this to get others opinions on this, so please don't report this for beeing spite.

dont see why this is a spite, it all about ones will, wolverine not some child, he also not jason who has a weakness to uses against him (though it bullshit weakness jason lives in a water why would it scare him). His will is reidculous and he can uses it to his advantage, plus unlike children even if his body is effected in the real world it don't matter much to him, he has a healing factor.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
dont see why this is a spite, it all about ones will, wolverine not some child, he also not jason who has a weakness to uses against him (though it bullshit weakness jason lives in a water why would it scare him). His will is reidculous and he can uses it to his advantage, plus unlike children even if his body is effected in the real world it don't matter much to him, he has a healing factor.

first the fact that Freddy loses to Teenagers is more something like PIS because he's the bad guy and in 99% of all horromovies the bad guy loses in the end.

second it was schown more than once that what Freddy does to is victims in the dreamworld affects the real world aswell

third by feats Freddy is near godlike in the dreaworld (I post them later I'll have to go for now)

Originally posted by Parmaniac
first the fact that Freddy loses to Teenagers is more something like PIS because he's the bad guy and in 99% of all horromovies the bad guy loses in the end.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
second it was schown more than once that what Freddy does to is victims in the dreamworld affects the real world aswell

Originally posted by Parmaniac
third by feats Freddy is near godlike in the dreaworld (I post them later I'll have to go for now)

People cna uses thoses same powers against him and wolverine not a scared child, he be giving as good as he got if not matter, and what happens when wolverien takes freddy to the real world?

IDK what special deal is in the dream world but in a straight v1 fight Logan shreds his ass.

If Logan can use his willpower and put up a fight like Jason did, then this fight is quite close. Jason was only stopped b/c of the water leak...

Originally posted by Parmaniac
first the fact that Freddy loses to Teenagers is more something like PIS because he's the bad guy and in 99% of all horromovies the bad guy loses in the end.

Was'nt that case with Nightmare on elm street 1 he ended up getting them all in the end.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
If Logan can use his willpower and put up a fight like Jason did, then this fight is quite close. Jason was only stopped b/c of the water leak...

True, but there really wasn't any way Jason could've won anyway. He would've eventually lost.

Same thing applies to what Battle said. He raises a good point with the Healing Factor, Wolverine could keep going, but theres no way he can win.

yea dude.This is coming from a person whose brother is a huge horror fan and thus i have seen all 8 kreuger films.even with powerful willpower as the 3rd movie showed,lucid dreaming ain''t gonna do shit and as badass as logan is,he's afraid of something and one of freddy's powers is to know what it is. now fred has omnipotent control over the dream world so if he knew logan had the admantium skeleton and healing factor he would in fact be able to cancel it out and since the wounds are psychosomatic...

Originally posted by Kazenji
Was'nt that case with Nightmare on elm street 1 he ended up getting them all in the end.

Nancy survived the 1st one

Originally posted by Battlehammer

which wont matter to some one who can heal all the damage.

People cna uses thoses same powers against him and wolverine not a scared child, he be giving as good as he got if not matter, and what happens when wolverien takes freddy to the real world?

to the first: What would happen if he throws Wolverine in an ocean of acid? His wounds would be the same in the real world means nothing left of any cells to heal from

second: he was more playing with them as you can see with the wizard who's shooting his Lightnings whatever at him and he just grabs him und stabbs him or with the strong guy when Freddy absolutely easily overpowered him. The thing with the real world is out of discussion I'm only reffering to the dreamworld (as stated) I 100% agree with you that in real world Wolverine would totally destroy Krueger but in dreamworld he's absolutely chanceless

Originally posted by steverules_2
Nancy survived the 1st one

yep for an (tu us) unknown reason but he still got her in the end. And I think the reason why she "survived" is they wanted to make a sequel If they only made 1 part I think you would agree with me that Nancy died in part 1 (wich not happend cause of the sequel)

EDIT: I'm doing the ferat list right now

Originally posted by Parmaniac
yep for an (tu us) unknown reason but he still got her in the end. And I think the reason why she "survived" is they wanted to make a sequel If they only made 1 part I think you would agree with me that Nancy died in part 1 (wich not happend cause of the sequel)

EDIT: I'm doing the ferat list right now

Freddy feats Part 6

Realitywarping/Telekinsis: A House falls from the sky
Teleportation of his victim to the reality: he pushes john with a bus through a realitygate into the real world
Flying: Feddy flys in form of a witch
Shapeshifting: Turns into carlos mother
Mega sonic: Freddy let's carlos head explode (via sonic/noise)
Realitywarping: Freddy pulls spencer through a window in a video game
Powerglove (while Spencer is in the video game): He controlls Spencers actions in the real world
Pyrokinesis: Freddys sets John bed on fire (without touching it of course)
Teleportation / Speed (whatever you want): Freddy cuts John Parachute in the air and while Johns falling Freddys got enough time to push a nailbed (or something like this) under John that he fells onto it
Shapeshifting: Turns into Tracys father

then Tracy says: It's my dream I do what I want
Freddy replies: It's your dream but my rules (free transleated from german to english)

Bodycontrol: Freddy let's his wrist (the one with the glove) rotate extremly fast
Voicemimicry: mimicrys Tracys voice
Durability: Freddy gets beaten down by Doc with a baseball bat with no effect

after that Freddy tells Doc how often they tried to kill him:
burning
buried alive
holy water (all in the dreamworld)
while counting these things he cuts one of his fingers off for each point and when he's finished they instantly grew back (Healingfactor)

and later after he got pulled into the real world he said that he totally forgot how pain feels

EDIT: really man to think wolverine can beat someone with this power is just plain ridiculous

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he also not jason who has a weakness to uses against him (though it bullshit weakness jason lives in a water why would it scare him).

Thing is, it was a nightmare. I've had nightmares about drowning, but I'm a very good swimmer. You don't have to be afraid of something to have a nightmare about it. Nightmares scare you because you scare yourself. I think that's why people can will past Freddy's powers; because he's not actually doing it. He's just manipulating your dreams. Nightmares are suppose to scare you, biologically and everything.

Anywho. Jason doesn't have an HF, he's just plain immortal. So for Wolverine, a guy who has a mad HF, this fight is plain simple. Even if Wolverine gets scared, which is possible considering his past, mental instability, and animalistic nature, there's just no way Freddy could ever put him down. Especially when you consider he couldn't even put down Jason. Granted, Freddy's immortal... in the dreams.

So either Wolverine catches Freddy and wakes up to dice him for the win, or Wolverine simply lasts until he wakes up in the morning for a stalemate.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Freddy feats Part 6

Realitywarping/Telekinsis: A House falls from the sky
Teleportation of his victim to the reality: he pushes john with a bus through a realitygate into the real world
Flying: Feddy flys in form of a witch
Shapeshifting: Turns into carlos mother
Mega sonic: Freddy let's carlos head explode (via sonic/noise)
Realitywarping: Freddy pulls spencer through a window in a video game
Powerglove (while Spencer is in the video game): He controlls Spencers actions in the real world
Pyrokinesis: Freddys sets John bed on fire (without touching it of course)
Teleportation / Speed (whatever you want): Freddy cuts John Parachute in the air and while Johns falling Freddys got enough time to push a nailbed (or something like this) under John that he fells onto it
Shapeshifting: Turns into Tracys father

then Tracy says: It's my dream I do what I want
Freddy replies: It's your dream but my rules (free transleated from german to english)

Bodycontrol: Freddy let's his wrist (the one with the glove) rotate extremly fast
Voicemimicry: mimicrys Tracys voice
Durability: Freddy gets beaten down by Doc with a baseball bat with no effect

after that Freddy tells Doc how often they tried to kill him:
burning
buried alive
holy water (all in the dreamworld)
while counting these things he cuts one of his fingers off for each point and when he's finished they instantly grew back (Healingfactor)

and later after he got pulled into the real world he said that he totally forgot how pain feels

EDIT: really man to think wolverine can beat someone with this power is just plain ridiculous

No, dude. He doesn't have all these "powers". He has one power. Dream warping.

And no HF, either. He doesn't "heal" or anything, he simply manifests new parts.

Not to mention that in the real world he can't do sh*t. Except in FvJ he seems to know Kung Fu. And has a measure of immortality; what with that winking head thing and all.

Originally posted by Master Court
Thing is, it was a nightmare. I've had nightmares about drowning, but I'm a very good swimmer. You don't have to be afraid of something to have a nightmare about it. Nightmares scare you because you scare yourself. I think that's why people can will past Freddy's powers; because he's not actually doing it. He's just manipulating your dreams. Nightmares are suppose to scare you, biologically and everything.

Anywho. Jason doesn't have an HF, he's just plain immortal. So for Wolverine, a guy who has a mad HF, this fight is plain simple. Even if Wolverine gets scared, which is possible considering his past, mental instability, and animalistic nature, there's just no way Freddy could ever put him down. Especially when you consider he couldn't even put down Jason. Granted, Freddy's immortal... in the dreams.

So either Wolverine catches Freddy and wakes up to dice him for the win, or Wolverine simply lasts until he wakes up in the morning for a stalemate.

In the first part of your post your right about the nightmares if they would follow real life logic wich is not the case in the Nightmare on Elmstreet movies because in the Nightmare movies he isn't just manipulating your dreams the stuff that happens to you there actually threatens you in "reallife", this was shown more than once and also stated several times for example Nancy cuts her hand and was still bleeding after she woke up, after that she says that threats in the dreamworld can become threats in the real world (that was in part 3)

to the second part... well you already said that jasons just plain immortal so that's the reason why Freddy couldn't take him down there (I could say he wasn't going all out if you want so, cause he could do much more to him than just slamming him around for example throw him into an acid pool or the sun if you want so)
so if he would have done something like this there wouldn't be anything left of jason or wolverine in this case (and this "drowning attack" also affected Jason in the real world he was spitting out water without ever beeing into water berfore this, for another example)

btw it was you who said there has to be something Wolverine can regenrate from (at least 1 cell I guess) in the Rulk vs. Woverine thread after I asked if the getting hotter thing would be a bigger prob than the HF (from the other Hulk in this matchup), so please don't come now and say he would regenerate from this

to the last part I agree with you Wolverine would totally wreck freddy in the real world I have no doubt about it,
the thread is about the battle in the dreamworld and not about "could wolverine pull him out of the dreamworld"
if he's able to pull him out he'll take care of Freddy pretty easily

so that's the reason why I really think this is spite in favor for freddy, we could throw in Sentry with the same outcome...

Originally posted by Master Court
No, dude. He doesn't have all these "powers". He has one power. Dream warping.

And no HF, either. He doesn't "heal" or anything, he simply manifests new parts.

Not to mention that in the real world he can't do sh*t. Except in FvJ he seems to know Kung Fu. And has a measure of immortality; what with that winking head thing and all.

even if that's the case he still can do all this stuff not to mention even more (If you want so I'll post the rest also)

to the real world thing, as I stated before I agree with you in this. And MAYBE and just MAYBE Wolverine lasts long enough to wake up to "stalemate" this fight wich I doubt if Freddys really willing to kill him.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
In the first part of your post your right about the nightmares if they would follow real life logic wich is not the case in the Nightmare on Elmstreet movies because in the Nightmare movies he isn't just manipulating your dreams the stuff that happens to you there actually threatens you in "reallife", this was shown more than once and also stated several times for example Nancy cuts her hand and was still bleeding after she woke up, after that she says that threats in the dreamworld can become threats in the real world (that was in part 3)

to the second part... well you already said that jasons just plain immortal so that's the reason why Freddy couldn't take him down there (I could say he wasn't going all out if you want so, cause he could do much more to him than just slamming him around for example throw him into an acid pool or the sun if you want so)
so if he would have done something like this there wouldn't be anything left of jason or wolverine in this case (and this "drowning attack" also affected Jason in the real world he was spitting out water without ever beeing into water berfore this, for another example)

btw it was you who said there has to be something Wolverine can regenrate from (at least 1 cell I guess) in the Rulk vs. Woverine thread after I asked if the getting hotter thing would be a bigger prob than the HF (from the other Hulk in this matchup), so please don't come now and say he would regenerate from this

to the last part I agree with you Wolverine would totally wreck freddy in the real world I have no doubt about it,
the thread is about the battle in the dreamworld and not about "could wolverine pull him out of the dreamworld"
if he's able to pull him out he'll take care of Freddy pretty easily

so that's the reason why I really think this is spite in favor for freddy, we could throw in Sentry with the same outcome...

yea like i said.the dreams are psychosomatic.if in the dream freddy were to,say,rip out logans admantium,decapitate him,and incinerate him in the sun in the dream world,he would be a pile of waffle crisp in the morning(damn i miss that cereal)

freddy wins but he cant kill logan, but wolverine cant mount an offense against freddy in the dream world, freddy bothers him until logan wakes up