Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
2) Every single thing that I've posted has just about proven that there's literally no excuse for downloading unless it's because you can't be bothered to pay. If that's the only defense you have, that you're a lazy slob who wants shit without having to pay, then admit it at least.-AC
So have you agreed that this statement is wrong yet?
-BH
Originally posted by Creshosk
Its called mocking. Here I thought you brits would know about something as subtle as that.Sure we accuse you of being obsessed for making more than a single post on the subject? How about being the only one to be arguing a certain point for as long as you have.
If you post again, you're definitely obsessed.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Are you really so deluded that when a person says that they disagree with you, you take it to be agreeing?At this point you're really just trolling. Though I suspect that's been the case since you first started down the path that lead here.
cosigned
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Your obsession was what caused you to come in here and agree with an off topic comment aimed at me personally.-B.H.'s Idol
Actually we usually hate each other. The thing is people dislike you so much its got to the point where posters that usually hate each other gang up and start to have a go at you.
Exactly, Zone. You're like a knitting circle.
Have you decided whether or not to contribute, yet? Are you just going to sit there telling me how much you find me "funny" and dislike me? Do that in my PM box. I've attempted to resolve this clearly personal issue with you in PMs, but you keep bringing it back publically. I just hope Digi realises this when he comes here and inevitably bans some of us (Because to ban any ONE person would be unfair).
Unless...you need an audience.
Hah, "gang up". Pathetic. True though, you have to have a go at me. You've got nothing for my arguments. I'm flattered with the attention though. I didn't know I was worth as much time.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Why do you hate yourself? I'm awesome. And since you're now me. You are now awesome.You do realize that not replying to something you've seen IS ignoring it right?
Shall we get into a semantic debate over this?
No, not at all. I read his post.
Originally posted by Creshosk
No, it was aimed at your arguments. I'm not sure of the relevance, but by pointing out that your argument "Its not semantics its facts" (Like somehoe semantics aren't facts... I guess words haveing meanings is not a fact and is therefore subjective... hey I had an epiphany on your flawed thinking!) is faulty. I'm sure there's more to it as to why that even came up, but that's beside the point at the moment.
It was entirely irrelevant.
We weren't DEBATING semantics, though. Thus my point.
Originally posted by Creshosk
No, interpreting arguments against your arguments as arguments against you is a form of strawman, and with all strawmaen, the real point is ignored.
It was an argument against me, though. Not my points.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yes, you're an air conditioner... What's your point?
I make everything cooler.
Next reply is going to your PM box if it doesn't have anything to do with the topic. I'll talk about me ALL day, but this isn't the place for it.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Its called mocking. Here I thought you brits would know about something as subtle as that.Sure we accuse you of being obsessed for making more than a single post on the subject? How about being the only one to be arguing a certain point for as long as you have.
If you post again, you're definitely obsessed.
When I leave the forum, Battlehammer doesn't exist. I keep him awake at night. He told me so.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
So have you agreed that this statement is wrong yet?
When it's proven to be, I shall. Essentially people download because they don't want to pay, that's how it is.
Oh, and thanks for proving my point factual. All you do is "cosign" people who hate me, like a gossip girl. This has been brewing ever since the first debate I hate with you. You've literally had a grudge since then.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Exactly, Zone. You're like a knitting circle.Have you decided whether or not to contribute, yet? Are you just going to sit there telling me how much you find me "funny" and dislike me? Do that in my PM box. I've attempted to resolve this clearly personal issue with you in PMs, but you keep bringing it back publically. I just hope Digi realises this when he comes here and inevitably bans some of us (Because to ban any ONE person would be unfair).
Yeah actually I am going to contribute but I dont think we'll resolve anything but thats because I know what you're like. However im too tired right now.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Unless...you need an audience.Hah, "gang up". Pathetic. True though, you have to have a go at me. You've got nothing for my arguments. I'm flattered with the attention though. I didn't know I was worth as much time.
Again this is my problem with you. You take yourself too serioulsy. You think this is because I cant counter your arguments. It because I dont think you deserve the respect of having a decent conversation because you always think you're right. Its a waste of time debating with you. You're arguably the most obnoxious person on KMC....and thats saying something.
However i'll add my2cents tommorrow.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriActually I read before that statement both sides arguing what the words mean. "What words mean" is semantics. So when you say that "Free is" and define a word you're arguing semantics.
It was entirely irrelevant.We weren't DEBATING semantics, though. Thus my point.[]/b]
Debate, argue, they really mean the same thing.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriRepeating yourself doesn't make it true. Your argument is that you weren't. when he points out you were he's arguing your point "I wasn't doing this."
It was an argument against me, though. Not my points.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriActually, you tend to just suck in air, and are very loud to the point where people wonder if you're even worth it.
I make everything cooler.
You see, now THAT is arguing you, and not your point.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriNaturally you think that disrupting the topic in a big argument is not only not trolling, but its also not derailing the thread, and is on topic.
Next reply is going to your PM box if it doesn't have anything to do with the topic. I'll talk about me ALL day, but this isn't the place for it.
What stealing is and what free is have nothing to do with how a person gets their comics. Canadian laws have very little to do with the topic, and insults and accusations are also off topic.
So before you get on the soapbox, I'd suggest you look long and hard at your own actions.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriAnd now you're just lieing. This has nothing to do with the topic and is blatent trolling.
When I leave the forum, Battlehammer doesn't exist. I keep him awake at night. He told me so.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriAre you daft? I download but I pay nearly 60 a year to do so, And yes, to Marvel.
When it's proven to be, I shall. Essentially people download because they don't want to pay, that's how it is.
I pay, but I download.
I download so I get a copy of the comic, Its stored digitally in an easier to manage form and doesn't take up as much space. That and sometimes I can't get to the comic store. But since I pay around $5 a month, it ain't because its free.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriFreudian slip? Why do you spend so much time with people who you and PZ, say hate you and you obviously don't care much about?
Oh, and thanks for proving my point factual. All you do is "cosign" people who hate me, like a gossip girl. This has been brewing ever since the first debate I hate with you. You've literally had a grudge since then.-AC
Originally posted by CreshoskCresh...msn-oh
Actually I read before that statement both sides arguing what the words mean. "What words mean" is semantics. So when you say that "Free is" and define a word you're arguing semantics.Debate, argue, they really mean the same thing.
Repeating yourself doesn't make it true. Your argument is that you weren't. when he points out you were he's arguing your point "I wasn't doing this."
Actually, you tend to just suck in air, and are very loud to the point where people wonder if you're even worth it.
You see, now THAT is arguing you, and not your point.
Naturally you think that disrupting the topic in a big argument is not only not trolling, but its also not derailing the thread, and is on topic.
What stealing is and what free is have nothing to do with how a person gets their comics. Canadian laws have very little to do with the topic, and insults and accusations are also off topic.
So before you get on the soapbox, I'd suggest you look long and hard at your own actions.
And now you're just lieing. This has nothing to do with the topic and is blatent trolling.
Are you daft? I download but I pay nearly 60 a year to do so, And yes, to Marvel.I pay, but I download.
I download so I get a copy of the comic, Its stored digitally in an easier to manage form and doesn't take up as much space. That and sometimes I can't get to the comic store. But since I pay around $5 a month, it ain't because its free.
Freudian slip? Why do you spend so much time with people who you and PZ, say hate you and you obviously don't care much about? [/B]
You're back. shock
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Yes, Zone. It's a waste of time debating with me...so you'll come back tomorrow to do just that.
I don't take myself seriously at ALL. Your actions are hilarious to me and nothing but entertainment. I just find them pathetic also.
Good point though, your problem is with me PERSONALLY. So then come to me personally, via PM, and vent there. Don't drag it into public threads, unless you need back-up.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually I read before that statement both sides arguing what the words mean. "What words mean" is semantics. So when you say that "Free is" and define a word you're arguing semantics.Debate, argue, they really mean the same thing.
Repeating yourself doesn't make it true. Your argument is that you weren't. when he points out you were he's arguing your point "I wasn't doing this."
Actually, you tend to just suck in air, and are very loud to the point where people wonder if you're even worth it.
You see, now THAT is arguing you, and not your point.
Naturally you think that disrupting the topic in a big argument is not only not trolling, but its also not derailing the thread, and is on topic.
What stealing is and what free is have nothing to do with how a person gets their comics. Canadian laws have very little to do with the topic, and insults and accusations are also off topic.
So before you get on the soapbox, I'd suggest you look long and hard at your own actions.
And now you're just lieing. This has nothing to do with the topic and is blatent trolling.
Are you daft? I download but I pay nearly 60 a year to do so, And yes, to Marvel.I pay, but I download.
I download so I get a copy of the comic, Its stored digitally in an easier to manage form and doesn't take up as much space. That and sometimes I can't get to the comic store. But since I pay around $5 a month, it ain't because its free.
Freudian slip? Why do you spend so much time with people who you and PZ, say hate you and you obviously don't care much about?
1) Why don't you let ME and Battlehammer worry about his obsession with me, and let me worry about my actions? Good boy. Of course, if you wish to continue posting judgement, do so. I just...don't really care what you think. I find it amusing.
2) Obviously when I say "downloading" it's clear what I mean. Not legal subscriptive downloads, I've even said this explicitly in the thread. Even in my first couple of posts.
Reading: It's what's for breakfast today.
Also no. I don't hate him by any means, I don't HATE anyone. Hate isn't worth my time.
He hates Battlehammer, Battlehammer hates him. I just pity them both. It was a typo.
Nice to know that you're so desperate for stuff to say that you're resorting to such things.
Delightful, let's me know I'm hitting all the right targets here.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSop you're joking when you say you make things cool?
Yes, Zone. It's a waste of time debating with me...so you'll come back tomorrow to do just that.I don't take myself seriously at ALL.
Ah, you have a sarcastic self-depreciating humor. so when ever you praise yourself you're being sarcastic and actually putting yourself down. Good to know.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriJusty like how you should let the mods and or police worry about any given user and Marvel's potentially illegal activities?
Your actions are hilarious to me and nothing but entertainment. I just find them pathetic also.Good point though, your problem is with me PERSONALLY. So then come to me personally, via PM, and vent there. Don't drag it into public threads, unless you need back-up.
1) Why don't you let ME and Battlehammer worry about his obsession with me,
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriLike you let other people worry about their actions without you getting on their case?
and let me worry about my actions?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriNow you know what people think about you.
Good boy. Of course, if you wish to continue posting judgement, do so. I just...don't really care what you think. I find it amusing.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriOh I'm sorry, when you use words, you really mean to use other words. like when you say you make thigns cooler, its clear that the words you're using don't mean what you want them to.
2) Obviously when I say "downloading" it's clear what I mean.[]/b]
Thus you debate semantics alot.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriHey, you get on other people for how they use words.
[B] Not legal subscriptive downloads, I've even said this explicitly in the thread. Even in my first couple of posts.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSo you skipped breakfast then?
Reading: It's what's for breakfast today.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSo how'd you type hate instead of had? bit of a stretch for a simple typo.
Also no. I don't hate him by any means, I don't HATE anyone. Hate isn't worth my time.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriBit of a stretch...
He hates Battlehammer, Battlehammer hates him. I just pity them both. It was a typo.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWhy would I be desperate for things to say, when its clear I can get along fine not even visiting this site? Plus Being a blow hard, you give me plenty of content to respond to.
Nice to know that you're so desperate for stuff to say that you're resorting to such things.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYou're delusional.
Delightful, let's me know I'm hitting all the right targets here.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriI always cut that last one off too early so I'm left responding to your...
-AC
What would you call that? You use it like a signature, but its not in your signature.
Moniker?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Sop you're joking when you say you make things cool?Ah, you have a sarcastic self-depreciating humor. so when ever you praise yourself you're being sarcastic and actually putting yourself down. Good to know.
Justy like how you should let the mods and or police worry about any given user and Marvel's potentially illegal activities?
The difference is I'm not telling anyone to change, just how I feel about a certain action they take. It's not personal.
You are giving me personal advice. You don't know me, so obviously you're not best placed to say.
Oh, and I love how you make typos yet continually pull my one out.
Nah, wasn't joking for the record. I really am awesome...or am I joking?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Like you let other people worry about their actions without you getting on their case?
I'm hardly getting on their case by discussing downloading in this topic, am I? Use your brain.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Now you know what people think about you.
...and now I still don't care. Well done, you've achieved nothing.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh I'm sorry, when you use words, you really mean to use other words. like when you say you make thigns cooler, its clear that the words you're using don't mean what you want them to.
There isn't another word for downloading besides downloading is there? If you've got an answer, send a postcard. The kind of downloading we're discussing, evidently, is not legal downloading.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Thus you debate semantics alot.Hey, you get on other people for how they use words.
So you skipped breakfast then?
How does this make up for the fact that you stormed in here and didn't read my post? If you did, you'd KNOW what I meant, seeing as I clearly stated it before I got into this debate. I made it clear that now all downloading is included, that you could legally download (I.e: From Marvel etc). Next time, you know, do that reading thing.
Originally posted by Creshosk
So how'd you type hate instead of had? bit of a stretch for a simple typo.
Either way, I don't hate the guy. Oh! I remember now, you then reply "You do".
Originally posted by Creshosk
Bit of a stretch...
Indeed it is. So it's kind of funny that it factually was a mistake then. Factually.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Why would I be desperate for things to say, when its clear I can get along fine not even visiting this site? Plus Being a blow hard, you give me plenty of content to respond to.
I give you lots to respond to, but you never really say anything. That's a true blow hard.
You obviously cannot keep away from me, or you'd not be here now.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You're delusional.
Clearly I am. I didn't remember you as being this stupid. I imagined things.
Originally posted by Creshosk
I always cut that last one off too early so I'm left responding to your...What would you call that? You use it like a signature, but its not in your signature.
Moniker?
...you SURE you're not desperate for things to reply to, kid? I mean, really. How much of your post has been to do with the topic?
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriThen why drag it out needlessly? You made it personal by calling them thieves.
The difference is I'm not telling anyone to change, just how I feel about a certain action they take. It's not personal.[]/b]
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriHave you tried taking your own advice? You don't seem to like when people do to you, what you do to them.
[B]You are giving me personal advice. You don't know me, so obviously you're not best placed to say.]
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriAnd? You're talking about my bolding problems?
Oh, and I love how you make typos yet continually pull my one out.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWell you are a bit of a hypocrite so contradictions are well within your realm of being...
Nah, wasn't joking for the record. I really am awesome...or am I joking?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri"Anywhere else you'd be in jail" and something else about theives. that I can't quote word for word from memory. "Canada has dumb laws" or something like that
I'm hardly getting on their case by discussing downloading in this topic, am I? Use your brain.
Yeah, I'm using my brain. If it wasn't getting on their case calling someone a theif who lives in a place that allows them to download things legally is getting personal and its getting on their case.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYou'd have to be an idiot if you think you're going to achieve something in a debate on a message board online. And I'm sorry if I just called you an idiot. But that's the way I feel. I'm not trying to accomplish anything other than wasting time.
...and now I still don't care. Well done, you've achieved nothing.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWell there's legal and illegal. when you don't specify you attack the legal downloading as well.
There isn't another word for downloading besides downloading is there?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYou should still specify. Because there is a difference. ESPECIALLY when legal downloading has been mentioned, like I do.
If you've got an answer, send a postcard. The kind of downloading we're discussing, evidently, is not legal downloading.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriShould I care about making things up to you? Cause I don't. In fact I still don't feel I've done anything wrong.
How does this make up for the fact that you stormed in here and didn't read my post?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSo first you said ALL downloading is included, later when you get called on frouping them together you say that you didn't mean all downloading, then you say you meant all downloading.
If you did, you'd KNOW what I meant, seeing as I clearly stated it before I got into this debate. I made it clear that now all downloading is included, that you could legally download (I.e: From Marvel etc). Next time, you know, do that reading thing.
As clear and to the point as ever AC. Maybe you need an engine tune up.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriMaybe not consciously. Which is why its a fruedian slip. You might have been thinking about the fact that PZ and BH hate each other at that moment.
Either way, I don't hate the guy.[/]b
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWhy?
[B] Oh! I remember now, you then reply "You do".[]/b]
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriObviously. Since it didn't make sense. if it had I probably would have responded with something else, or ignored it as you weren't talking to me at that point. But you made a mistake.
[B]Indeed it is. So it's kind of funny that it factually was a mistake then. Factually.[]/b]
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYou're projecting again.
[B]I give you lots to respond to,[]/][/bquote] Which is why I'm not desperate. that and you're not the only person on these boards. Plus this isn't the only message board.[QUOTE=12155789]Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
[B] but you never really say anything. That's a true blow hard.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWell, arrogance and illogic are your thing. Actually it wasn't you that drew me back. Sorry for the shot to the ego.
You obviously cannot keep away from me, or you'd not be here now.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriHmm... You know what? Reported.
Clearly I am. I didn't remember you as being this stupid. I imagined things.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYeah I'm sure. in fact you look at my post history I've been spending more time trying to convince thie pertelane kid he should read more superman comics before he comments on superman.
...you SURE you're not desperate for things to reply to, kid?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriAbout as much as yours?
I mean, really. How much of your post has been to do with the topic?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriDid it again.. can someone fix this air conditioning unit off? Its making a hell of a lot of noise and just blowing hot air...
-AC
Originally posted by Creshosk
Then why drag it out needlessly?
Now do you see the hypocrisy?
Do ya, kid? Secondly, why should I bother with you if you're criticising me based on posts you haven't even read? I thought you had, that's why I've been replying to you. You don't even know what you're arguing against, just that it's me personally. So, considering you're factually wrong about me, what's the point?
I literally specified illegal downloading in my earlier posts. I specifically said I knew that legal downloading was fine.
When you go read my actual argument, I'll come back here and reply to every quote you just posted.
Reported? Hah. If you came to argue, you came to argue. That's like calling the cops in a street fight.
Reported too. Let's see where this goes.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How many times must I explain the difference between an item or something else having NO price, and the price being there...but ignored?
Yet, I still obtained the item free of charge. Free of my person being charged. Ergo, I obtained it for free.
Whether free was the intention or not of the owner does not change the fact that I obtained it for free. For Free. You can say that the item wasn't free, but I still got it for free. Because I didn't have to pay, which was the original point from where this whole argument stemmed.
We got comics for free.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriNein. The original point was that the item costing us nothing (or, therefore, being free to us) was a good reason to DL.
It not costing you anything doesn't make a difference, because it's not about what it costs you, it's about cost of the item. The item has a cost and a price.
So it actually is entirely about what it costs us. You have since then become fixated on the definition of free and clearly lost the original point.
I would still argue that we get the comics for free, regardless of whether that was the intention, but I'm pretty sure we've come full circle by now.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriOften.Do you?
Originally posted by Creshosk
I download my comics. But no, that does not mean I steal them and it does not mean I get them for free.https://subscriptions.marvel.com/v3/pages/pg_digitalcomicssubscribe.php?promo=DC-Y01
For everything else I go to the local comic shop.
Downloading = Stealing
Fact.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriI've seen yours all along. As I've been trying to point out ot you by doing to you what you've been doing to others as I pointed out earlier.
Now do you see the hypocrisy?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriBecause I'm criticizing you based on posts I have. Duh.
Do ya, kid? Secondly, why should I bother with you if you're criticising me based on posts you haven't even read?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriActually I'm responding based on the ones I have.
I thought you had, that's why I've been replying to you. You don't even know what you're arguing against, just that it's me personally.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriConcidering that I'm not and just throwing around the word factually does not add to your credit. Quite the opposite, it makes you appear more foolish. I'm not sure if you're aware of that but bandying your opinion as fact does not strengthen your cause.
So, considering you're factually wrong about me, what's the point?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriAnd you also specified all downloading.
I literally specified illegal downloading in my earlier posts.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriAnd then you turned around and attacked it by being general rather than specific.
I specifically said I knew that legal downloading was fine.[]/b]
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSo you'll be a troll and ignore my posts?
[B]When you go read my actual argument, I'll come back here and reply to every quote you just posted.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriBut there's a difference between arguing and insulting people. There comes a point when you cross the line about the type of fight intended.
Reported? Hah. If you came to argue, you came to argue. That's like calling the cops in a street fight.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriFor what? For you calling me stupid?
Reported too. Let's see where this goes.[]/b]
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriOr for me playing with your moniker? Sorry, do you find it insulting for me to respond to this part of your post?
[B]-AC