...aaand there it is.
The inevitable "I can't dismantle your argument so I'll launch one last post at you personally, while claiming I'm ashamed to be a part of it. Thus ensuring my retreat looks reasonable.".
It's ok, it happens.
I never ignored the actual point; you just dislike the answers I give.
"If my answers frighten you, then you should cease asking scary questions.".
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriNo, I'm simply turning to the preferable, legal price of $0 over what the comic book shop offers.They do not have the right to do so. The item still has a price for those who have not paid for it, yet wish to own it. You're ignoring the price by downloading it.
If you buy bread from one bakery for $5, and another bakery offers it for $10, you're not ignoring the $10 bakery. You're just using common sense.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It didn't cost you anything, not because it was free[...]
Free
6 : not costing or charging anything
Dictionary says if it doesn't cost us anything.
As I've quoted, you admit it didn't cost us anything.
Thus, it's free.
Moving on...
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSays you.
If it's not meant to be free, it's not free.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriI'm using free in the sense of "I got it for free", because it didn't cost me anything.
You simply cannot steal something that's free.
I have been this entire time, which I've made perfectly clear.
You have been blatantly ignoring this context, because the last threads of an argument that you have rely on you using the word free in the sense of "it wasn't offered for free".
I still obtained it for free.
Legally. So, you're right, I guess I didn't steal anything that was free. I legally got it for free, though.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYou can't ignore it simply because you don't like it.
That's because Canada has the very retarded law of not punishing everyone involved.
Where I live, I'm not stealing. Bottom line.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYou're still robbing someone of their own money, thus thieving.
Once again, you insinuate your own opinions as fact and/or definite.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's not me labelling things as fact that aren't. It's you adopting the very common stance of "I'm not a thief, I just illegally download.". It's genuinely hilarious and depressing.
I don't illegally download. This fact which you fail to grasp is genuinely hilarious and depressing.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriI still obtained it for free, regardless of how it was obtained.
What about this are you not getting?You cannot steal FREE things. To steal something that is FREE, is not stealing.
In this case, it was obtained legally, but for arguments sake, it would still be obtained for free otherwise.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriHere, however, I'm not, and that's where your argument ends.
You are, by definition. It's just a very silly law. Anywhere else and you'd be put in jail.
If you continue to blather and ignore context, points, and the laws of countries other than yours, then there's no point in my replying.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriIf you're familiar with debate, then you know that by attacking the person's argument to show that they are invalid, is a legitimate tactic to get them removed from the table.
...aaand there it is.The inevitable "I can't dismantle your argument so I'll launch one last post at you personally, while claiming I'm ashamed to be a part of it. Thus ensuring my retreat looks reasonable.".
It's ok, it happens.
I never ignored the actual point; you just dislike the answers I give.
"If my answers frighten you, then you should cease asking scary questions.".
-AC
In such a case when you have no arguments, then you have no point.
I noticed that you yourself just ignored how the person pointed out the flaws in your argument to say that they couldn't do what they just did.
Originally posted by Blanket
You just ignored everything I said, in favor of the last sentence. laughing
I suppose that the
...aaand there it is.Is talking about what he himself is doing.The inevitable "I can't dismantle your argument so I'll launch one last post at you personally, while claiming I'm ashamed to be a part of it. Thus ensuring my retreat looks reasonable.".
Cresh, the day I'm told I ignore arguments by the King of doing so, is the day I become you.
He doesn't understand how it's stealing, so that's his own problem.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
No, I'm simply turning to the preferable, legal price of $0 over what the comic book shop offers.If you buy bread from one bakery for $5, and another bakery offers it for $10, you're not ignoring the $10 bakery. You're just using common sense.
Yes, but both bakeries are legally established proprietors. What a ridiculous point.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
From the legal dictionary:Free
6 : not costing or charging anythingDictionary says if it doesn't cost us anything.
As I've quoted, you admit it didn't cost us anything.
How many times must I explain the difference between an item or something else having NO price, and the price being there...but ignored?
Tell me how many times so I can just do the Bart Simpson chalkboard gag and get it over with.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Thus, it's free.
It's not.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Moving on...
Let's.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Says you.
Also fact. Moving on.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
I'm using free in the sense of "I got it for free", because it didn't cost me anything.
It not costing you anything doesn't make a difference, because it's not about what it costs you, it's about cost of the item. The item has a cost and a price.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
I have been this entire time, which I've made perfectly clearYou have been blatantly ignoring this context, because the last threads of an argument that you have rely on you using the word free in the sense of "it wasn't offered for free".
I still obtained it for free.
Legally. So, you're right, I guess I didn't steal anything that was free. I legally got it for free, though.
Legally you didn't get it for free. That's why it's a dumb law, it legally allows you to ignore a cost...which is stealing.
You admit you can't steal anything that's free, so to admit to something being stealing is to admit it's not free. Do not equate "Without cost" to "Free".
The dictionary says "Not costing or charging anything." in the context of the ITEM not costing or charging anything, not you.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
You can't ignore it simply because you don't like it.Where I live, I'm not stealing. Bottom line.
Then the only reason you're not is because your country has a ridiculous loophole that serves no logical purpose. Anywhere else and you would be pinned to the ground by the fact of my argument.
I'm not gonna put you on par with being AS BAD as the uploaders, but you still happen to be part of the game. If a guy jerks to kiddie porn he's still a paedophile. Not as bad as the dudes making it, but still a paedophile.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Don't leap to conclusions. I can pay for the issue if I download it, and thus not rob them of any money at all.
Do you?
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Once again, you insinuate your own opinions as fact and/or definite.
Do you buy them?
Originally posted by Original Smurph[/b]
I don't [b]illegally download. This fact which you fail to grasp is genuinely hilarious and depressing.I still obtained it for free, regardless of how it was obtained.
In this case, it was obtained legally, but for arguments sake, it would still be obtained for free otherwise.
You wouldn't be, and continuing to say that with your misguided ideas of why not do not work here.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Here, however, I'm not, and that's where your argument ends.If you continue to blather and ignore context, points, and the laws of countries other than yours, then there's no point in my replying.
I'm not ignoring anything. I'm literally addressing everything you've brought to me and, like a typical downloader, you try to wash your hands of any blame in this situation.
-AC
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
😆 😆 😆 😆Man you're incredible. That is so ironic obvoulsy you're not going to see that.
1) If you can't express your point without the use of smileys, don't express it at all.
2) Do you honestly have anything to contribute, or are you just going to sit there whining at me? Really?
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSo how does it feel to be me? Pretty good huh?
Cresh, the day I'm told I ignore arguments by the King of doing so, is the day I become you.
You completely ignored Blanket's post on the previous page in favor of more of your patting yourself on the back.
You are having a semantic debate. There's nothing wrong with that.
Words are how we define things, ideas actions events and the like. by better understanding those words we better understand those things, actions and the like.
Originally posted by Creshosk
So how does it feel to be me? Pretty good huh?You completely ignored Blanket's post on the previous page in favor of more of your patting yourself on the back.
You are having a semantic debate. There's nothing wrong with that.
Words are how we define things, ideas actions events and the like. by better understanding those words we better understand those things, actions and the like.
Not really. I live with self-loathing.
I didn't ignore it, I just didn't reply because it was aimed at me, not my argument. Precisely because he can't.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why are you stalking me? Do you love me that much?Seriously? "AC, an autograph?" would suffice, I'd indulge you. Not entirely sure why you follow me into every thread and just blindly support any child who has an anti-AC comment to make.
It's REALLY dry, Crabby. Really.
-AC
This is a public forum, and there the most commented on threads currently, thats why I am in them, get over your self, the world does not revolve around you.
you just make such a fool of your self I can't help but agree with Alf (who I never agree with) that your hypocracy knows no bounds.
-BH
I know it doesn't, there are other people to reply regarding besides me, you know.
Just saying. I'm not the only one here, it's just getting a little dry with you having such a grudge that you need to publically carry it into every thread.
Seriously. You are obsessed, evidently. Flattering, but ultimately disruptive. See? Thread was on topic until you came into it with your anti-AC behaviour. If you have issue with me, PM me.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I know it doesn't, there are other people to reply regarding besides me, you know.-AC
Everyone in the thread is disagreeing with you........and I agree with almost everyone of there stances, so why would I argue with them when i agree?
and I did respond to Alf comment, not yours.
-BH
See? You definitely are obsessed, right down to copying the way I post.
Like I said, flattered that you factually like me and everything, but I don't know why you're putting on this disruptive front and causing threads to go off-topic because you dislike me.
It's ok to like me, you know. Don't be afraid of what they'll say.
Majority disagreeing doesn't make something wrong, by the way.
-B.H.'s Idol <--- My new sign off.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWhy do you hate yourself? I'm awesome. And since you're now me. You are now awesome.
Not really. I live with self-loathing.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYou do realize that not replying to something you've seen IS ignoring it right?
I didn't ignore it, I just didn't reply because
Shall we get into a semantic debate over this?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriNo, it was aimed at your arguments. I'm not sure of the relevance, but by pointing out that your argument "Its not semantics its facts" (Like somehoe semantics aren't facts... I guess words haveing meanings is not a fact and is therefore subjective... hey I had an epiphany on your flawed thinking!) is faulty. I'm sure there's more to it as to why that even came up, but that's beside the point at the moment.
it was aimed at me, not my argument.[]/b]
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriNo, interpreting arguments against your arguments as arguments against you is a form of strawman, and with all strawmaen, the real point is ignored.
[B] Precisely because he can't.[]/b]
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYes, you're an air conditioner... What's your point?
[B]-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
See? You definitely are obsessed, right down to copying the way I post.Like I said, flattered that you factually like me and everything, but I don't know why you're putting on this disruptive front and causing threads to go off-topic because you dislike me.
It's ok to like me, you know. Don't be afraid of what they'll say.
Majority disagreeing doesn't make something wrong, by the way.
-AC
Yes I am just so obsessed with you 🙄
I am the one causing it to go off topic? I agreed with Alf assesment and then you made it into some huge deal, becuase you believe your self the center of the universes. Your the one bringing it off topic.
-BH
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriIts called mocking. Here I thought you brits would know about something as subtle as that.
See? You definitely are obsessed, right down to copying the way I post.
Sure we accuse you of being obsessed for making more than a single post on the subject? How about being the only one to be arguing a certain point for as long as you have.
If you post again, you're definitely obsessed.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriAre you really so deluded that when a person says that they disagree with you, you take it to be agreeing?
Your obsession was what caused you to come in here and agree with an off topic comment aimed at me personally.-B.H.'s Idol
At this point you're really just trolling. Though I suspect that's been the case since you first started down the path that lead here.