Jedah Dohma vs Kain

Started by Phanteros8 pages

Originally posted by Burning thought
Not really, because the statements are from Phanteros....so.....your obviously getting confused again lol...

Actually ask questions instead of constantly replying, you would learn a few things then so you dont make confusions and mistakes in the future.

Statements in the game. The game came out in 1990s where cutscenes where still done in text.

Originally posted by Phanteros
Jedah was resisting his destruction by the gate for some time until he was destroyed. Soul resistent feat. how is Kain going to even reach pyron? also is this after Pyron destroys the planet because Kain won't even get the move off in time. He was beating the crap out of Morrigan who was a bullet timer. and you seem to for get that Jedah can port people in deminsions and trap them there.

LOL Jedah as a higher chance of of surviving a planets destruction because he is capable of of space flight.

It says quite clearly he was absorbing souls, thats what he went there to do and then they destroyed him...thats not anything attacking his own soul silly lol....

reach Pyron? why by teleportation combined with time powers obviously...and thats if we assume Pyron starts in the void of space, he could take humanoid form if he wanted to fight Kain with greater chance of success.

Show me him beating the crap out of her, and a bullet timer does not move at the speed of a bullet, they can dodge them but that does not mean their as quick. And this dimentional power can be flawed, youve shown me no evidence so far....it could take him 10 mins to perform the power, and I belive he requires his own dimension to do it.

Teleportation is better than flight and a better chance? theres no reason to belive he wouldnt be burnt up to a sinder as the planet explodes, not that Pyron can do that, hes only absorbed planets remember, in an unkown amount of time.

Originally posted by Phanteros
Statements in the game. The game came out in 1990s where cutscenes where still done in text.

Youve shown me no direct statement that tells me Jedah can instantly take souls, can instantly seal people in dimensions or that he is super fast....

Originally posted by Burning thought
It says quite clearly he was absorbing souls, thats what he went there to do and then they destroyed him...thats not anything attacking his own soul silly lol....

reach Pyron? why by teleportation combined with time powers obviously...and thats if we assume Pyron starts in the void of space, he could take humanoid form if he wanted to fight Kain with greater chance of success.

Show me him beating the crap out of her, and a bullet timer does not move at the speed of a bullet, they can dodge them but that does not mean their as quick. And this dimentional power can be flawed, youve shown me no evidence so far....it could take him 10 mins to perform the power, and I belive he requires his own dimension to do it.

Teleportation is better than flight and a better chance? theres no reason to belive he wouldnt be burnt up to a sinder as the planet explodes, not that Pyron can do that, hes only absorbed planets remember, in an unkown amount of time.

Youve shown me no direct statement that tells me Jedah can instantly take souls, can instantly seal people in dimensions or that he is super fast....

He was casaully absorbing them. And show me Kain stop time in his boss fights. He did instantly in Dark stalkers three. how else would they gotten there. no biggie either since Jedah can teleport and he force them into his realm anyway. and he did it in one panel thats how quick he was. You just wanted him to take 8 seconds so you can make Kain look faster.

Show me Dante cut pieces off in-game non scripted bosses otherwise he cant cut opponents....

one panel? lol, having it in one panel does not make it fast, infact a panel has no obvious amount of speed attributed to it in this case.

Kain can do a move in 200 milliseconds that would defeat Jedah, he doesnt need to be faster to stop Jedah.

No, he wants you to provide feats without him having to do the same. That way he's free to downplay the evidence you provide as much as he possibly can while you've seen nothing from him.

When he fails to downplay a feat, he pulls out his "ace." A Toonforce claim.

200 milliseconds? Haha, where do you get these times?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Show me Dante cut pieces off in-game non scripted bosses otherwise he cant cut opponents....

one panel? lol, having it in one panel does not make it fast, infact a panel has no obvious amount of speed attributed to it in this case.

Kain can do a move in 200 milliseconds that would defeat Jedah, he doesnt need to be faster to stop Jedah.

Jedah can teleport also also he can regenerate. you seem ignoring the fact on the panel he did it instantly you just choosing to make it seem like its taking a long time. I guess superman must be slower than Kain since his lazer vision is shown making it all the way to the planet in one panel.

Let me do another fight to show how insignificant Kain is to Dark stalkers. BT don't take it as Flame bait but rather education.

Originally posted by Phanteros
Jedah can teleport also also he can regenerate. you seem ignoring the fact on the panel he did it instantly you just choosing to make it seem like its taking a long time. I guess superman must be slower than Kain since his lazer vision is shown making it all the way to the planet in one panel.

Good luck regenerating your soul...oh no, hes not done it. Also show me Jedah teleport. Theres no instantly at all, ive prob seen what your talking about....if ime correct theres no indication of time. This last comparison makes no sense at all.....

Originally posted by Burning thought
Good luck regenerating your soul...oh no, hes not done it. Also show me Jedah teleport. Theres no instantly at all, ive prob seen what your talking about....if ime correct theres no indication of time. This last comparison makes no sense at all.....
He teleported a castle and Yeah a guy who was destroyed completely will have his soul destroyed.

So? not himself then? and can you prove his soul was destroyed? all it says was that Jedah was, nothing about his soul and when I claim soul destruction it means rip a soul out of an enemy to kill them.

Originally posted by Burning thought
So? not himself then? and can you prove his soul was destroyed? all it says was that Jedah was, nothing about his soul and when I claim soul destruction it means rip a soul out of an enemy to kill them.
Destroyed means beyond repaired Jedah is the soul.

Originally posted by Phanteros
It wasn't a plot device he simply came back after he felt a disturbance in Makai. He was able to hit a bunch of bullet timers people faster than Kain. He has greater soul raping feats like eating a dimension full of souls at 1 sec. also he can create life. He can manipulate dimensions at will.

Your listing again....without evidence and mostly irrelvence

Hitting bullet timers is useless when your opponent tleeports at speed, eating a lot of souls is useless since its too slow, 800 milliseconds too slow if we assume it really is 1 sec.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Your listing again....without evidence and mostly irrelvence

Hitting bullet timers is useless when your opponent tleeports at speed, eating a lot of souls is useless since its too slow, 800 milliseconds too slow if we assume it really is 1 sec.

that is because he was eating a large quantity for them. one he could do it instant. Show me can hitting anyone fast. and yes they are relevevant because Kain is too slow compared to someone with universal awareness.

Originally posted by Phanteros
that is because he was eating a large quantity for them. one he could do it instant. Show me can hitting anyone fast. and yes they are relevevant because Kain is too slow compared to someone with universal awareness.

I'll co-sign this. Show me the exact time measurement of "200 milliseconds" too.

Originally posted by Phanteros
that is because he was eating a large quantity for them. one he could do it instant. Show me can hitting anyone fast. and yes they are relevevant because Kain is too slow compared to someone with universal awareness.

lol, your now inventing abilities and fantasising, just like I outlined guilty gear and you would do, hes never absorbed a soul instantly, stop over hyping, reaching and inventing powers. And the proof is in the last video in my Kain respect thread. He hits 5 guys within 1 second, 1 second divided by 5 is 200 milliseconds.

The multi teleport? There's start up lag. Not to mention it appears to be relatively short distance.

Originally posted by Burning thought
lol, your now inventing abilities and fantasising, just like I outlined guilty gear and you would do, hes never absorbed a soul instantly, stop over hyping, reaching and inventing powers. And the proof is in the last video in my Kain respect thread. He hits 5 guys within 1 second, 1 second divided by 5 is 200 milliseconds.
He did Absorb souls just about the same time Kain can he took on a stream of them. And no show me since you want to give me a hard time. He did absorb souls and can teleport since he can teleport people and land masses.

the whole move takes 1 second, I am counting from when Kain first starts animation which is not logically canon, if I started from the actua teleport it would prob take him half a second to hit 5 targets.

Jedah is still too slow to stop kain at all, one teleport and Kain could be next to Jedah, with Jedah inside a time slowing field he wouldnt be able to do anything, Phanteros has foolishly put Jedah into a fight he can do nothing in.

take Kains prep away and this could become a debate.

Originally posted by Burning thought
the whole move takes 1 second, I am counting from when Kain first starts animation which is not logically canon, if I started from the actua teleport it would prob take him half a second to hit 5 targets.

Jedah is still too slow to stop kain at all, one teleport and Kain could be next to Jedah, with Jedah inside a time slowing field he wouldnt be able to do anything, Phanteros has foolishly put Jedah into a fight he can do nothing in.

take Kains prep away and this could become a debate.

Theres your failed logic. MewTwo focusing and the pig's cast time are canon, but the time it takes Kain to start his little teleport technique isn't?

Originally posted by Burning thought
the whole move takes 1 second, I am counting from when Kain first starts animation which is not logically canon, if I started from the actua teleport it would prob take him half a second to hit 5 targets.

Jedah is still too slow to stop kain at all, one teleport and Kain could be next to Jedah, with Jedah inside a time slowing field he wouldnt be able to do anything, Phanteros has foolishly put Jedah into a fight he can do nothing in.

take Kains prep away and this could become a debate.

Fine Kains prep is off. Jedah now can rapestomp. Jedah moves faster than Kain who moves sloggish compared to Morrigan. Obviously You a fool to think can can keep up.