How did this get 4 pages? The Hulk has no way to even scratch the destroyer.
That thing is more durable than both true adamantium AND Uru. Hulk punches that, he breaks his fist. period.
On top of that, it flies, teleports, has a disintegrator beam that vaporizes anything, matter manipulation, AND incalculable strength.
On top of that, it's just a shell. It doesn't feel pain, get scared, or tire out. The only two things that ever did any kind of damage to it were 1.) a skyfather concentrating all of his power into one attack and 2.) a celestial.
No version of hulk is anywhere near either one. I'm sorry but the hulk dies painfully against this thing.
Originally posted by Mindset
You don't actually know anything about the Destroyer armor.
I know it failed to kill even Thor. It couldn't even hurt the Celestials despite the combined spirits of all of Asgard, Odin, and Zeus. Odin has power over it, so it's not this all-powerful weapon that people are trying to make it out to be. I know as standard, it's not capable of one-shotting planets.
WWHulk, as World Breaker, could've effortlessly buried the world beneath the sea. If the Destroyer had that kind of power, the Thor/Destroyer fight would've been one panel. The Savage Hulk vs Destroyer fight would've been one panel. And since World Breaker would've KO'd the Earth just by walking, that wasn't even a slight measure of his full power. Not to mention WWHulk is a military strategist, is as intelligent as Banner, and has loads of brutal combat experience from the arena on Sakaar.
World Breaker most definitely coldcocks the Destroyer and bangs Wonder Woman.
Originally posted by Master CourtYea, Hulk would definitely hurt the Celestials.
I know it failed to kill even Thor. It couldn't even hurt the Celestials despite the combined spirits of all of Asgard, Odin, and Zeus. Odin has power over it, so it's not this all-powerful weapon that people are trying to make it out to be. I know as standard, it's not capable of one-shotting planets.WWHulk, as World Breaker, could've effortlessly buried the world beneath the sea. If the Destroyer had that kind of power, the Thor/Destroyer fight would've been one panel. The Savage Hulk vs Destroyer fight would've been one panel. And since World Breaker would've KO'd the Earth just by walking, that wasn't even a slight measure of his full power. Not to mention WWHulk is a military strategist, is as intelligent as Banner, and has loads of brutal combat experience from the arena on Sakaar.
World Breaker most definitely coldcocks the Destroyer and bangs Wonder Woman.
Thor was almost killed by the Destroyer multiple times.
Lmao at KOd Earth.
Originally posted by Mindset
You don't actually know anything about the Destroyer armor.
And apparently the Celestials.
Originally posted by Master CourtYeah a Hulk amped by an outside source nice. Punching through times storm and black holes won't help him here.
Same way "nothing can stop Juggernaut", right? War Hulk stopped his ass.Not to mention, Hulk has done "impossible" things a million times. Like punching through time storms and black holes and sh*t. That wasn't even World Breaker doing that crap.
Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, Hulk would definitely hurt the Celestials.Thor was almost killed by the Destroyer multiple times.
Lmao at KOd Earth.
No, no, you're not following me.
My point about the Celestials vs The Destroyer was that The Destroyer was created for the purpose of beating the Celestials, and it couldn't do it. So it's a failure. My point was, it's not all-powerful. It's not abstract-level, it's not sky-father level, it's not Odin-level, it's just over standard god-level (Superman, Thor, Surfer, etc). Much like H/P Doomsday compared to Superman.
You also missed my point about Thor. Yeah, "almost killed". For whatever reason or another, someone saving his ass or plot-devices, Thor's survived every encounter with the Destroyer. If it was REALLY powerful, it should be able to kill Thor with no problem, and nothing should be able to stop it save for Odin's word.
I don't know in what context you're laughing at the KO Earth thing, so no comment.
I know, The Destroyer can't "worn down" in stamina and willpower, but it's still a physical object. And against a planet-busting Hulk who is much stronger than the Savage Hulk that's punched through black holes who is in turn much stronger than the Banner-Controlled-Hulk that caught a 150 billion ton mountain without amp time, The Destroyer would be ripped apart until there's nothing left to fight back.
Originally posted by Space M ummyit was also damaged by the union of all the dark gods (minus mistress zelia, their sky-mother) that formed a gestalt monster that fired an insanely powerful eye beam.
On top of that, it's just a shell. It doesn't feel pain, get scared, or tire out. The only two things that ever did any kind of damage to it were 1.) a skyfather concentrating all of his power into one attack and 2.) a celestial.
and iirc it was rendered inert by attacking the host body (who's soul animated the armour) by an attack that was aimed at the brain, killing the person and sending the soul to the afterlife.
Originally posted by Master Court My point about the Celestials vs The Destroyer was that The Destroyer was created for the purpose of beating the Celestials, and it couldn't do it. So it's a failure. My point was, it's not all-powerful. It's not abstract-level, it's not sky-father level, it's not Odin-level, it's just over standard god-level (Superman, Thor, Surfer, etc). Much like H/P Doomsday compared to Superman.
Hmm what was your point? It did better than three Sky fathers combined. So just because it failed to stop a host Celestials means anything in this matchup? Unless you’re hinting that WWH is anywhere near that powerful Destroyer failing to stop the Celestials is not relevant here. Yes it’s over Superman, Thor, Surfer level that’s why it’s in the Trans category but that’s not enough to beat WWH who had problem taking Sentry?
Originally posted by Master Court You also missed my point about Thor. Yeah, "almost killed". For whatever reason or another, someone saving his ass or plot-devices, Thor's survived every encounter with the Destroyer. If it was REALLY powerful, it should be able to kill Thor with no problem, and nothing should be able to stop it save for Odin's word.
The reason Thor doesn’t die it’s because he is a hero. This is as bad as saying villains couldn’t kill Batman so they are not powerful. If you read the fights with Destroyer Thor has been near death multiple times. So you want the writers to kill Thor to show that Destroyer is more powerful? This is funny because even Cosmic level threat fail to kill heroes like Spider-man ie the Omega. Big name heroes don't die just like that.
Originally posted by Master Court I know, The Destroyer can't "worn down" in stamina and willpower, but it's still a physical object. And against a planet-busting Hulk who is much stronger than the Savage Hulk that's punched through black holes who is in turn much stronger than the Banner-Controlled-Hulk that caught a 150 billion ton mountain without amp time, The Destroyer would be ripped apart until there's nothing left to fight back.
Destroyer pretty much one shot WWH with his beams.
anybody who says WWH is going to tear the destroyer apart is just BLINDED by fanboyis 😉. even if he were capable of busting the planet, he still couldnt bust the destroyer.
thor didnt die because he was pretty much banned from hela's realm. other wise he would have been a goner. i doubt wwh could even beat thor into the after life.
Originally posted by kgkg
The reason Thor doesn’t die it’s because he is a hero. This is as bad as saying villains couldn’t kill Batman so they are not powerful. If you read the fights with Destroyer Thor has been near death multiple times. So you want the writers to kill Thor to show that Destroyer is more powerful? This is funny because even Cosmic level threat fail to kill heroes like Spider-man ie the Omega. Big name heroes don't die just like that.Lol even Odin never tired to destroy the Armor with raw force. You’re talking about Planet destroying attacks Thor has more powerful that than and he can’t harm the destroyer.
Destroyer pretty much one shot WWH with his beams.
Alright, lookie here, daddio; hero or not, the Destroyer didn't manage to kill Thor. If the Destroyer were such a one-sided-fighter, he'd have killed Thor with no problem. What's more, my points have nothing to do with writers. It's got to do with feats. And the Destroyer couldn't kill Thor. I'm not saying he wouldn't have if left alone to do his work, but he failed nonetheless. And failures show limits. Like the few times Destroyer has been melted, decapitated, or the spirit inside overpowered. The Destroyer is really tough, but not invulnerable, and it has no HF.
Now about the planet-destroying attack thing. Yeah, Thor can destroy planets. And Savage Hulk has always managed to contend with him, not to mention proven to Thor(which Thor has admitted) that Hulk is stronger than him. Then you have WWHulk, who is even stronger than Savage Hulk, so we're even further into planet-busting attacks. And then the uber-Hulk, World Breaker. His slightest footstep was causing earthquakes along the entire eastern-seaboard of the United States. So the LOW end of World Breaker's power range is continental destruction. Also something to think about; WWHulk's footsteps were average steps, no damage, right? Yet he stalemated, burnt out, and KO'd the Sentry. Once again, World Breaker's hazardous footsteps also puts KOing Sentry at the low-end of World Breaker's power range. How? Because despite the grueling battle with an all-out Sentry, WWHulk's stomps and punching and lumbering had no environmental effect.
And then the beams you mentioned. They merely cripple Thor, but even those didn't manage to kill him. I mean, since you're claiming one-shot. Given that the disintegrator beam didn't kill Thor, and probably wouldn't kill a World Breaker Hulk, AND that the Destroyer has to charge power to use that beam attack, what's to stop Hulk from healing? After all, Hulk's HF increases as well as his strength and durability.
Just answer me one question here; who's the most powerful entity that The Destroyer, minus any plot-device, possessed by any one being, has decisively beaten and killed or had at it's mercy? I mean, besides it's ridiculously incalculable engagements with Thor. For starters, they need to be at least more powerful than Sentry.
This entire thread, has been.....just.......
facepalm
So much stupidity. God...
Originally posted by Master Court
Alright, lookie here, daddio; hero or not, the Destroyer didn't manage to kill Thor. If the Destroyer were such a one-sided-fighter, he'd have killed Thor with no problem. What's more, my points have nothing to do with writers. It's got to do with feats. And the Destroyer couldn't kill Thor. I'm not saying he wouldn't have if left alone to do his work, but he failed nonetheless. And failures show limits. Like the few times Destroyer has been melted, decapitated, or the spirit inside overpowered. The Destroyer is really tough, but not invulnerable, and it has no HF.
Dude, every time they've meet the Destroyer has easily manhandled him, and yes it has killed Thor before (It was a hex bolt which saved him.). The Destroyer being destroyed by beings Skyfather and up do not in anyway indicate that Hulk has a chance in hell. The Destroyer casually cuts through Mjolnir and the likes with his beam. The Hulk gets turned to ash, if the Destroyer opens the visor.
Originally posted by Master Court
Now about the planet-destroying attack thing. Yeah, Thor can destroy planets. And Savage Hulk has always managed to contend with him, not to mention proven to Thor(which Thor has admitted) that Hulk is stronger than him. Then you have WWHulk, who is even stronger than Savage Hulk, so we're even further into planet-busting attacks. And then the uber-Hulk, World Breaker. His slightest footstep was causing earthquakes along the entire eastern-seaboard of the United States. So the LOW end of World Breaker's power range is continental destruction. Also something to think about; WWHulk's footsteps were average steps, no damage, right? Yet he stalemated, burnt out, and KO'd the Sentry. Once again, World Breaker's hazardous footsteps also puts KOing Sentry at the low-end of World Breaker's power range. How? Because despite the grueling battle with an all-out Sentry, WWHulk's stomps and punching and lumbering had no environmental effect.
Thor always restrains his strength against the Hulk and despite his ever increasing strength he has always been able to stalemate. When has Thor said that the Hulk is clearly stronger than him, and when has the Hulk proven so? Thor has stalemated the Hulk for hours on end. The energy generated by World Breaker Hulk, was what was causing such wide spread damage. Environmental damage means shit. Prime and Ion destroyed a graveyard in their fight and Prime can punch through dimensions. The Savage Hulk and the Mindless Hulk have the best feats out of all the incarnations. World Breaker Hulk being able to shake the Eastern Seaboard because he can generate so much Gamma Energy isn't actually a strength feat.
Originally posted by Master Court
And then the beams you mentioned. They merely cripple Thor, but even those didn't manage to kill him. I mean, since you're claiming one-shot. Given that the disintegrator beam didn't kill Thor, and probably wouldn't kill a World Breaker Hulk, AND that the Destroyer has to charge power to use that beam attack, what's to stop Hulk from healing? After all, Hulk's HF increases as well as his strength and durability.
They merely cripple Thor? They easily cut through Mjolnir and he slightly opened the visor and he freaking one shotted Thor and sent him to Hela's realm. The same Thor whose tanked attacks from the Odin Power, Galactus etc.
He opens the visor, slightly, and the Hulk is ash. I mean the oh so powerful World Breaker was one shotted by freaking satellites.
Originally posted by Master Court
Just answer me one question here; who's the most powerful entity that The Destroyer, minus any plot-device, possessed by any one being, has decisively beaten and killed or had at it's mercy? I mean, besides it's ridiculously incalculable engagements with Thor. For starters, they need to be at least more powerful than Sentry.
Thor and the Asgardian realm has been it's main opponents. It being so far beyond Thor is all that's needed here. Seeing as how Thor is more powerful than either Sentry or World War Hulk, this question is rather redundant.
This thread is stupid.
The Destroyer 10/10. Unless your a Skyfather at least, you don't beat the Destroyer, much less out brawl it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This entire thread, has been.....just.......facepalm
So much stupidity. God...
Dude, every time they've meet the Destroyer has easily manhandled him, and yes it has killed Thor before (It was a hex bolt which saved him.). The Destroyer being destroyed by beings Skyfather and up do not in anyway indicate that Hulk has a chance in hell. The Destroyer casually cuts through Mjolnir and the likes with his beam. The Hulk gets turned to ash, if the Destroyer opens the visor.
Thor always restrains his strength against the Hulk and despite his ever increasing strength he has always been able to stalemate. When has Thor said that the Hulk is clearly stronger than him, and when has the Hulk proven so? Thor has stalemated the Hulk for hours on end. The energy generated by World Breaker Hulk, was what was causing such wide spread damage. Environmental damage means shit. Prime and Ion destroyed a graveyard in their fight and Prime can punch through dimensions. The Savage Hulk and the Mindless Hulk have the best feats out of all the incarnations. World Breaker Hulk being able to shake the Eastern Seaboard because he can generate so much Gamma Energy isn't actually a strength feat.
They merely cripple Thor? They easily cut through Mjolnir and he slightly opened the visor and he freaking one shotted Thor and sent him to Hela's realm. The same Thor whose tanked attacks from the Odin Power, Galactus etc.
He opens the visor, slightly, and the Hulk is ash. I mean the oh so powerful World Breaker was one shotted by freaking satellites.
Thor and the Asgardian realm has been it's main opponents. It being so far beyond Thor is all that's needed here. Seeing as how Thor is more powerful than either Sentry or World War Hulk, this question is rather redundant.
This thread is stupid.
The Destroyer 10/10. Unless your a Skyfather at least, you don't beat the Destroyer, much less out brawl it.
This is old news. Let it go. I get it! Destroyer wins!
But you're wrong on just a few things.
1. Thor HAS admitted Hulk is stronger than him. This "holding back" stuff is ridiculous. I'm not guessing, I'm not taking out of context. I'm talking about standard showing, on-panel, canon sh*t. Incredible Hulk Annual 2001. Hulk pummeled Thor into the ground and after struggling to his feet Thor admitted Hulk's superiority in strength in a passing comment. I'd post a scan if I gave more than half a sh*t to prove it. Thor won the fight, but his point was that strength doesn't win every fight, so it was half props to Hulk, half saving face for Thor.
2. The World Breaker energy obviously did not create the damage. That's why they said "Two more footsteps like that, and we lose the eastern seaboard". It was obviously the footsteps. And in that respect, the damage is very much important to note as it was the least of World Breaker's power range. What's stronger; a footstep, or a punch?
3. Thor may or may not be more powerful, overall, than Sentry, but definitely not WWHulk. As WWHulk clearly had access to World Breaker levels whenever he wanted. And again, WWHulk beat Sentry with no area damage. And then at World Breaker levels, his merest footstep was trashing the entire seaboard, which means the lowest range of World Breaker levels puts WWHulk at > Sentry. And easily > Thor as well.
Besides the Thor vs Destroyer stuff, you were wrong and/or speculating on everything... Just let it go... Like when I had to choose between letting my best friend or my pliers fall to their doom.