Rage.Of.Olympus
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Originally posted by Master Court This is old news. Let it go. I get it! Destroyer wins!
He sees the light!
Originally posted by Master Court But you're wrong on just a few things.
I highly doubt that.
Originally posted by Master Court 1. Thor HAS admitted Hulk is stronger than him. This "holding back" stuff is ridiculous. I'm not guessing, I'm not taking out of context. I'm talking about standard showing, on-panel, canon sh*t. Incredible Hulk Annual 2001. Hulk pummeled Thor into the ground and after struggling to his feet Thor admitted Hulk's superiority in strength in a passing comment. I'd post a scan if I gave more than half a sh*t to prove it. Thor won the fight, but his point was that strength doesn't win every fight, so it was half props to Hulk, half saving face for Thor.
Lmao. How about you read your own scan then?
Thor clearly says, “You may perhaps be even stronger than me…..” I highlighted the key words, to help you understand the sentence. That isn’t Thor clearly admitting Hulk is stronger than him. Thor stated that Hulk may be stronger than him (As out of character as that was.). That doesn’t indicate Hulk being stronger than him.
I also have scans, of Hulk despite his best efforts, him saying that he cannot defeat Thor. Is that an indication of Hulk admitting Thor’s superiority in strength?
I also have scans of Hulk stating he is stronger, but then immediately doubting himself, and saying it cannot be, he cannot be as, and Thor finishes his statement by saying, “As strong as thee monster? Nay I be stronger!”. Is this statement of doubt and indication of Thor’s superiority?
If you think that statement made by Thor is an indication of Hulk’s superiority then by that same token then the statements made by Hulk are of Thor’s superiority.
No, this holding back stuff is far from ridiculous and is rather evident. There have been many examples of Thor stating he holds back against mortals and he considers Hulk a mortal.
Originally posted by Master Court 2. The World Breaker energy obviously did not create the damage. That's why they said "Two more footsteps like that, and we lose the eastern seaboard". It was obviously the footsteps. And in that respect, the damage is very much important to note as it was the least of World Breaker's power range. What's stronger, a footstep, or a punch?
If you pay close attention to the book, it’s clearly noticeable that whenever Hulk took a step, pure energy radiated and originated from his foot and went on to reek destruction over the city and the surrounding area. The step statement made was an indication that the energy was radiating from Hulk. It’s rather clear and right on panel.
Like I said, that step wasn’t a feat of strength. At best a feat of raw energy/power radiation.
We don’t know how strong a foot step was, how can we know how strong a punch was? Pure gamma energy (I assume it was Gamma.) won’t really do much to Thor as it did to the landscape…
Originally posted by Master Court 3. Thor may or may not be more powerful, overall, than Sentry, but definitely not WWHulk. As WWHulk clearly had access to World Breaker levels whenever he wanted. And again, WWHulk beat Sentry with no area damage. And then at World Breaker levels, his merest footstep was trashing the entire seaboard, which means the lowest range of World Breaker levels puts WWHulk at > Sentry. And easily > Thor as well.
Thor is more powerful than Sentry. Hell, for a while now, Sentry on average is around, Wonder Woman’s level and lower.
Thor is not more powerful than World War Hulk and is inferior? Lulz.
What did World War Hulk do in that entire arc that puts him above Thor in strength, much less power? Beta Ray Bill, the Thor lite, had better feats in his mini than World War Hulk had in that entire arc. I mean seriously, with his versatility and offensive/defensive abilities, Thor can one shot World War Hulk if he wanted to. With attacks like the God Blast, Thermoblast, the ability to manipulate life forces/souls, the Anti-Force, his lucky Thor only goes hand to hand with him. Hell, a few satellite lasers one shotted the mighty World Breaker Hulk.
The area of damage isn’t really an indication of power all the time. Beta Ray Bill and Stardust destroyed planets in their fight, while Thor and Silver Surfer only destroyed some nearby asteroids and such.
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“World War Hulk > Thor” easily? Just stop.
What the hell did he do in that entire arc that would even indicate that? He and his Warbound beat a few low and at best mid tiers. The only time he faced someone of note, was Black Bolt who turned out to be a Skrull and he still had trouble with him. Juggernaut made him eat pavement and was overpowering him until he used battle field removal when Xavier distracted him. When he faced Dr. Strange, Dr. Strange was stomping his ass until he put his guard down because he was endangering civilians, and let him pound on him. His greatest feat in that arc was stalemating Sentry and burning him out. Even in an entire arc dedicated to him that was full of stupidity; his best feat was still the Sentry fight.
Based on that and a footstep that radiated energy and was ravaging the city, you would say that “World War Hulk > Thor” easily, in terms of power and strength?
The same Thor who has supported the weight of half the planet, the weight of a score of planets, overpowered and lifted the Midgard Serpent, overpowered the freaking World Engine which was powered by the damn Yggdrasil tree, the same tree whose infinite power connects all the worlds and binds the fabric of the damn cosmos together with his raw strength.
The same Thor who easily plows through guys like Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, Adam Warlock, Maxam, Drax with the Power Gem, the same Thor who has one shotted Ego, one shotted Galactus and made him flee for his life, with one attack hurt and paused freaking Celestials, with one attack put down a being with Odin's power on top of her own?
World War Hulk is easily more powerful and stronger than that Thor because he could stalemate Sentry, made a flashy foot step and radiated some damn energy and then went on to get freaking one shotted by some satellites?
Lmao. Get the hell out of here.
Originally posted by Master Court Besides the Thor vs Destroyer stuff, you were wrong and/or speculating on everything... Just let it go... Like when I had to choose between letting my best friend or my pliers fall to their doom.
Not really. I wasn’t wrong about anything and I wasn’t speculating. If anything you were the one who was wrong, and speculating. Why would I let such ignorance and silliness go?
