Originally posted by Mr Master
If Abraxas was nothing,
then why did 616 Eternity (multi-Eternity or all of Eternity)
need to cry for help against Abraxas?Heck it was 616 Eternity that created a Galactus for every Universe
just to keep Abraxas imprisoned.Galactus did his boast ("you are nothing"😉
because Galactus knew he could take the UN, which is a part of him,
which was the ONLY possible way to defeat Abraxas.Anyhow, that ending was PIS,
as Reed should've never had enough time to contemplate & then press that button.
Abraxas should've been able to strip the UN from Reed, as easily as it was stripped from him,
and even faster considering his cosmic senses/speed/reflexes etc.
(instead he jobs at the end, by talking to Reed) 👇The only thing Abraxas was depicted fearing was the UN.
As it was stated on panel and in his bio to be his only weakness.
👆
I think collapsing entire Universes just by approaching them are better feats.
Abraxas doesn't even need to attack, to crush a Universe, his presence does the job.
As for the match, AM never did what it took to defeat Abraxas,
and that is,
to nullify all that was/is and ever will be in time-space in an instant.AM barely survived that "destroying/creation" blast, but he did survive,
but Abraxas still exists as well.As I understand it, AM was absorbing one Universe at a time,
in the same fashion Abraxas collapses the Multiverse,
which then leads to the fall of the Omniverse.This may be a stalemate at best imo. (if AM is already at full power)
and galactus still survived the UN blast.
Originally posted by galactusischereand galactus still survived the UN blast.
Galactus is susceptible to the UN's power, even though its part of him.
Imo, I've always guessed that the UN was created by Eternity
as a means of defense against Abraxas.
I mean Eternity created all the other Galactuses,
and basically 616 Galactus is one with Eternity/Death/Infinity/Oblivion. (in a way)
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually he didn't, he was re-created with everything else.Galactus is susceptible to the UN's power, even though its part of him.
Imo, I've always guessed that the UN was created by Eternity
as a means of defense against Abraxas.I mean Eternity created all the other Galactuses,
and basically 616 Galactus is one with Eternity/Death/Infinity/Oblivion. (in a way)
Eternity created the other Gs but not Galactus prime, I know that Abraxas is more powerful than Galactus(without the UN tht is) but he was scared when Galactus took the UN from him with a thought.
Scans:
1) http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4316/23as6.jpg
2) http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8072/26iq3.jpg
3) http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/111/27jm6.jpg
Originally posted by galactusischereEternity created the other Gs but not Galactus prime,
Originally posted by galactusischereI know that Abraxas is more powerful than Galactus(without the UN tht is)
but he was scared when Galactus took the UN from him with a thought.
Still, Abraxas is a beast, and it takes a mighty power to take em out.
Originally posted by PeterlaneYup your right. Pheonix Force also survived...just saying.
Only Galan survived, and actually even Galan was remade ... into Galactus.
Galan only survived because the Infinity Being allowed it,
it then merged with Galan,
in order to create a new Marvel Universe with a new Galan (Galactus) as its balance.
In fact, since the Infinity Being was the only sentience in existence,
this means Galan was actually a part of the Infinity Being, like everything else.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix Force didn't survive,
it was reborn in the fires of the Big Bang like all other abstracts.Only Galan survived, and actually even Galan was remade ... into Galactus.
Galan only survived because the Infinity Being allowed it,
it then merged with Galan,
in order to create a new Marvel Universe with a new Galan (Galactus) as its balance.In fact, since the Infinity Being was the only sentience in existence,
this means Galan was actually a part of the Infinity Being, like everything else.
do you have the issue off hand where it shows galactus's origin?
Originally posted by Mr Masterhow many universes did we actually see abraxas destroy? i remember seeing a universe being torn apart, but i don't remember any having actually been destroyed... regardless, i know for a fact he didn't destroy the number of universes AM did.
I think collapsing entire Universes just by approaching them are better feats.
so in the department of displayed power output, AM >.
Originally posted by Mr Masterand abraxas never demonstrated anything on panel that leads me to believe he could harm AM. at all.
As for the match, AM never did what it took to defeat Abraxas,
and that is,
Originally posted by Mr Masterthe fact that abraxas has yet to be seen since that arc [nearly a decade] is more than enough to say his 'reign of terror' was certainly ended.
AM barely survived that "destroying/creation" blast, but he did survive,
but Abraxas still exists as well.
AM, however, survived the exact same type of 'attack' which utterly annihilated abraxas - and afterwards, was none the worse for wear, really.
so in the area of durability, AM >.
Originally posted by Mr Masterno. AM destroyed all but 3 of an infinite amount of universes, seemingly one by one. however, he absorbed the entirety of their combined energies, in one foul swoop.
As I understand it, AM was absorbing one Universe at a time,
in the same fashion Abraxas collapses the Multiverse,
which then leads to the fall of the Omniverse.
in nearly all areas, AM's on panel feats are > those of abraxas. that said, if one character's displayed feats are better than another character's, there's no reason to believe said [stronger] character wouldn't be victorious in a given battle.
AM ftw.
