Who would lead the Republicans against Obama?

Originally posted by Darth Jello
From what I know about the modern federalists, they're mainly against the US constitution applying to states and for the concept of the imperial presidency. The historic Federalist Party was for a strong national government with executive supremacy and democracy being only a pageant due to mistrust of the masses.

weird

Federalism in the Canadian context is power being distributed from the executive to lower forms of government, specifically in the case of Quebec, which we call asymmetrical federalism.

I've talked about radical federalism before, which to me (and afaik I invented the term), is that to the extreme, where more central forms of government go to work dismantling any apparatus which could be more appropriately governed in smaller communities.

The idea being to apply power more bottom up than top down.

Probably the difference between small "f" and capital "F" federalists, eh?

Probably Mitt Romney.

Good candidate (religious faith, economy), but easy for the media to rip him apart (religious faith, economy).

Obama is gonna win a second term, just like Bush, Clinton and Reagan. Though, the next election will be closer I think. 290/240 kinda scale.

As for Jindal, don't know much about him, but getting another youth does seem the custom in British politics, so it's possible.

Originally posted by KidRock
I would love to see a third party gain some power in this country. I really, really hope that Palin doesn't run again. It would absolutely blow my mind and I would vote for Obama in a second if that is who the Republicans decide to throw into the ring.

Yeah, I really don't see Palin running. I think she's gone for good.

I forgot the name but I remember him slamming the stimulus package booklet in congress....yeah, that guy is pretty good.

Huckabee any good? Romney is some good on economical issues; Jindal is more socially conservative than Romney (or, at least, that's how I see it)

If Palin fails, would she accept a Cabinet position (say, Secretary of Energy) in the event of a Republican victory?

Ron Paul and Jim DeMint both were prominent opponents of the stimulus package.

Originally posted by FE Expert
Huckabee any good? Romney is some good on economical issues; Jindal is more socially conservative than Romney (or, at least, that's how I see it)

If Palin fails, would she accept a Cabinet position (say, Secretary of Energy) in the event of a Republican victory?

Ron Paul and Jim DeMint both were prominent opponents of the stimulus package.

They'll never pick Paul (social liberal/crazy person) or Palin (political suicide).

Palin gets press and radicalizes a certain base, but that can be said to have had at least as strong of a negative effect on the Republican campaign as it was positive, and there were leaks by the end that the McCain people were totally fed up with he incompetence (coincidentally, her people said she was not given enough air time).

I don't think the GOP is stupid. They saw that their violent base wont win elections, and you could probably run a fern (as long as it was white) as a Republican candidate and still have their support.

American politics really is pandering to those middle voters.

Originally posted by FE Expert
Huckabee any good?

NO! Not Huckabee (not a bad choice) this guy:

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He reminds me of Daniel Hannan...he kicks ass too. Maybe the Republicans should bring Daniel here.

Everyone salute John Boner!!! The stiffest dick in congress!

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Everyone salute John Boner!!! The stiffest dick in congress!

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I would change my name.

I go to church with a guy named Harry Butz. I would have changed my name long ago.

I've known a couple of Harry Hymen's in Hebrew school. One of them was a guy's name.

I am really saddened by the shape of the Republican party. I think before ANYONE leads the republicans to the next election, reform within the party needs to be made. It's ridiculous how the current state of Republicanism is barely what it originally resembled. The GOP seems to be filled with a bunch of babbling fools ATM. I think the Republicans need an entirely new person who isn't afraid to show some guts with some sort of reformed, more centrist leaning Libertarianism that could really help America out.

Originally posted by Kram3r
I am really saddened by the shape of the Republican party. I think before ANYONE leads the republicans to the next election, reform within the party needs to be made. It's ridiculous how the current state of Republicanism is barely what it originally resembled. The GOP seems to be filled with a bunch of babbling fools ATM. I think the Republicans need an entirely new person who isn't afraid to show some guts with some sort of reformed, more centrist leaning Libertarianism that could really help America out.

What kind of people that would be? DeMint? Boehner? Jindal? Certainly not Paul or Palin.

again, with the current slant of the party it would be someone like David Duke, Pete Peters, Steve Forbes, or Grover Norquist. The Teabagger brownshirts and the appointment of a weak, pathetic puppet like Michael Steele is just proof to me that the party is moving more and more to the extreme right wing. I'm honestly scared of how similar the current situation is to the Weimar Republic, they just haven't picked a leader to unify around now that they're staging street fights and antireform hysteria.

Originally posted by FE Expert
What kind of people that would be? DeMint? Boehner? Jindal? Certainly not Paul or Palin.

None of those people. I do like Ron Paul, to be honest, but not even him, although he has the closest mindset. All those people aren't operating in the present (or future) America. Besides Ron Paul, all of these "Republicans" (I use the term loosely to describe these people) are just politicans who are pampering their core political base with no real sense in what's good for the country overall.

I'd see several people more as potential running mates or as cabinet ministers (in the event of a Republican victory) than nomination contenders:

As both (potential cabinet post in brackets):

- Bobby Jindal (Secretary of Homeland Security)
- Ron Paul (Surgeon General)
- Jim DeMint (Secretary of Treasury)
- Charlie Crist (Attorney General)

As only potential Cabinet ministers:

- Sarah Palin (Secretary of Energy)

Originally posted by FE Expert
I'd see several people more as potential running mates or as cabinet ministers (in the event of a Republican victory) than nomination contenders:

As both (potential cabinet post in brackets):

- Bobby Jindal (Secretary of Homeland Security)
- Ron Paul (Surgeon General)
- Jim DeMint (Secretary of Treasury)
- Charlie Crist (Attorney General)

As only potential Cabinet ministers:

- Sarah Palin (Secretary of Energy)

With that list, all I see is the continuation of the last eight years. I think a true candiate for the GOP won't emerge until the next election. Even then, I'm doubtful he'll be a succesful contender or if even a great Republican.

The brass of the GOP will likely not be giving Paul any cabinet positions.

Especially after the last election, you know, where he threw his own mock convention critiscizing the major brass of the GOP

Originally posted by inimalist
The brass of the GOP will likely not be giving Paul any cabinet positions.

Especially after the last election, you know, where he threw his own mock convention critiscizing the major brass of the GOP

Agreed. It is a joke though, honestly. I was really hoping Obama getting elected would teach the GOP a lesson. Doesn't look like it did too much at all.

Originally posted by Kram3r
I am really saddened by the shape of the Republican party. I think before ANYONE leads the republicans to the next election, reform within the party needs to be made. It's ridiculous how the current state of Republicanism is barely what it originally resembled. The GOP seems to be filled with a bunch of babbling fools ATM. I think the Republicans need an entirely new person who isn't afraid to show some guts with some sort of reformed, more centrist leaning Libertarianism that could really help America out.

It worked in the 90s.

Well, first Clinton was too tough then he was too soft.