Who would lead the Republicans against Obama?

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Originally posted by FE Expert
If the Republicans are to rebuild their party, who could lead the party to fight Obama?

Bobby Jindal?
Mitt Romney?
Mike Huckabee?

Maybe not Palin...

I find it ironic that Palin gets more attention and credibility among the pollsters than Jindal... However, Palin is a staunch 2nd amendment rights defender, even as Jindal is a stalwart pro-life warrior.

The Mormons

Maybe if the reanimated Teddy Roosevelt or Abe Lincoln, assuming they wouldn't become socialists or kill themselves once they saw the state of their party...

I know DeMint reeks of extremism, but Romney or Giuliani are more moderate. But would Jindal reek of extremism like DeMint?

I don't think any of the currently spotlighted republicans can do it. It will probably be someone who hasn't gotten much attention... it could even be someone who wins in 2010 midterms. None of the current batch really seem like much of a match for Obama.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Honestly, they'll probably be more radical and claim Obama is soft on terror.

It worked in the 90s.

It won't work any more. Bush was a bigger distaster than Nixon. The entire party needs a reform.

The real problem is that the republicans are too far in the Right Wing right now to be able to gain a majority.

The party must get ride of all Jesus Lovers, extremists, Glenn Beck, and all the idiots who are Deathers and/or Birthers and then, they might have a chance.

Obama is iconic in is way of being just a man who can make mistakes and apologize after done it and would probably whoop any ass if they was election tomorrow.

Btw, great job by electing him, the World thanks you.

The world thanks us? As in the One World Government?

Ahhhh!

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
The real problem is that the republicans are too far in the Right Wing right now to be able to gain a majority.

The party must get ride of all Jesus Lovers, extremists, Glenn Beck, and all the idiots who are Deathers and/or Birthers and then, they might have a chance.

We've already came to that conclusion.

I think a real problem the republicans have is they've lately accrued themselves the reputation of being obstructionist when lately both sides have been calling for bipartisanship. For instance on health care reform they've made fools of themselves by refusing to actually take the debate to town halls instead of just making noise outside of the actual debate.

Originally posted by Kram3r
We've already came to that conclusion.

Just wanted to repeat it,.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I think a real problem the republicans have is they've lately accrued themselves the reputation of being obstructionist when lately both sides have been calling for bipartisanship. For instance on health care reform they've made fools of themselves by refusing to actually take the debate to town halls instead of just making noise outside of the actual debate.

I would agree with that.

America will finally be equal when we get a Native american on the presidential podium .

No, first we would have to get a Scandinavian. And a chinese. And a singaporean. And a korean. And a mexican. And a guatamalen. And a jamaican. And an indian. And a japanese. And a norwegian. And a cambodian. And an australian aboriginee.

And if you add religion into the picture, it's just as dismill. Nothing but christians and (early on) deists.

Originally posted by Morgromir
America will finally be equal when we get a Native american on the presidential podium .

I wonder if the kids in Chicago think they are equal now that there is a black man as President

Some problems with the candidates already mentioned-

Guliani: Grossly unpopular with public servants. Police corruption charges. The fact that he spent up to $750,000 of 9/11 relief funds on his mistress and used a construction office at ground zero as a love nest.

Gingrich: Forgetting the whole wife stuff. He was charged with more ethics violations and fined more money than anyone in the history of the House of Representatives.

Romney: Put simply, even more so than Bill Clinton, Mitt Romney is the king of layoffs and job outsourcing.

Huckabey: He's got cushy Fox News job and his creepy connections to the Dominionist movement make a lot of people uncomfortable, especially since he doesn't keep it on the DL.

Paul: He is too closely associated with the GOA which itself is waaaay too comfortable with white supremacists. That and he seems to attract a lot of conspiracy theory survivalist extremist types that make people uncomfortable.

Santorum: Gee, where do we start? He defrauded tax payers out of money that he used for personal and family expenses, he hates gays and wants to push christian values down everyone's throat cause he doesn't think there is an inherent right to privacy. He slept with his stillborn child. Oh, and there's the fact that his name is a sexual slang term. You may as well elect representative Pearl Necklace.

Foxx: She is one of the death panel crazies. She voted against Katrina relief of any kind. She started a retirement account program that screwed soldiers and veterans out of their life savings as soon as the economy tanked. Oh, and she called Matthew Shepherd's murder a fraud to his mother's face on the House floor.

Bachmann: She is bat shit insane. She called for investigation and blacklisting of liberals and other unamericans. She is associated with the dominionist movement. She keeps quoting noted supporters of Hitler in order to make points (in a positive way). She called AmeriCorps a brainwashing paramilitary organization (despite her son joining a crew). She has spread myths and rumors about the current administration such as the conspiracy theory regarding the 2010 census and conservatives being shipped off to concentration camps despite the fact that REX 84 is an Oliver North contingency plan that no one other than a right wing loony would execute in its present state. She said that God willed her to be president. And she has been cited for inciting violence against the government and president of the United States.

Palin: She keeps posting insane shit and personal attacks on her facebook page. She has never completed a complete term in any office. She is involved in spreading false myths and rumors. She gave a resignation speech while obviously on something. And of course, she resigned as governor of Alaska to pursue a lucrative reality show contract for her and her family that was a tentative offer at best and was never finalized.

I almost forgot, John McCain:

He's already tried several times and lost. He changes his position on the issues based on poll numbers and his donors (like the way he kissed up to the religious right after calling them hate mongers three year earlier). Oh, and the big factor that lost him the election in the west-he favors amending water rights to favor Arizona.
Weld County in Colorado, infamous for electing Marilyn Musgrave and for having a large white supremacist base voted for Obama because McCain said in a speech that he would amend water rights in Colorado so that Arizona would receive more water from the South Platte and Colorado rivers (at the expense of Colorado farmers of course) stupid, stupid move.

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, first we would have to get a Scandinavian. And a Chinese. And a singaporean. And a korean. And a mexican. And a guatamalen. And a jamaican. And an indian. And a japanese. And a norwegian. And a cambodian. And an australian aboriginee.

And if you add religion into the picture, it's just as dismill. Nothing but christians and (early on) deists.


Do we owe anything to the Chinese, and Koreans ? we STOLE native land it was give or die , they lost their land or their life we've had white presidents so far currently a black president leads us ,so your right to be completely equal as proof, we need an oriental , and Scandinavian on top of of a native .
for the basis though a native would be good to have lead our country cause the natives went through alot because of outsiders with little or nothing in return.

Originally posted by Morgromir
Do we owe anything to the Chinese, and Koreans ? we STOLE native land it was give or die , they lost their land or their life we've had white presidents so far currently a black president leads us ,so your right to be completely equal as proof, we need an oriental , and Scandinavian on top of of a native .
for the basis though a native would be good to have lead our country cause the natives went through alot because of outsiders with little or nothing in return.

ummm

what has Obama done for the African American community since taking office?

What inner-city poverty initiatives has he started, how is he targeting lack of infrastructure and jobs, fatherless homes, etc? What about prison reform?

Having a person of a particular race as leader is meaningless. Obama is certainly not evidence that blacks are equal in America.

Also, from the Canadian experience, it turns out that Natives are more often screwed over by the greed and power struggles of their own leaders, who are often too willing to buy into the government. It is unlikely that a Native politician who wanted any major change for native people would get through the parties major vetting processes, especially with the "whites stole our land" rhetoric. LOL, look at how Obama had to distance himself from Rev. Wright.

Bush 1&2 really screwed up, presidents have been screwing up since the WW's after them our economy crashed(every ones did) , and only remained a superpower because of our armed forces. Obama has alot on his plate , republicans wouldn't be complaining if McCain was elected and did the same thing ,its a deep racist resentment , republicans are just pissed because they lost the election .

true, but why do you think minority leaders in major political offices will make the problems for those minorities better?

Civil rights have almost always been grass roots, and against such political institutions