Originally posted by Kazenji
I reakon all the X-men could use the same costumes they do in the comics obvisouly just don't use spandex.
Not suggesting he wears spandex. With Wolverine and his healing factor he doesn't need anything heavily armoured, but just having him walk around in simplistic everyday clothes is ridiculous. He may have the healing factor but he's not invulnerable or impervious to pain and living in a universe with other powerful beings some protection would make sense.
If Marvel had the rights to Wolverine a costume would be made it's that simple. Iron-Man, Thor, Captain America, Spider-Man all have movie costumes and they are just as 'outlandish' as Wolverines, if not more.
Even Green Lantern, the ring forms a costume around him, it doesn't have to, the ring could just protect him without a visual aid. Yet we have the costume , despite it being bright green with a eyemask that serves no purpose. The costume is there though because its part of the character.
Well a ninja-like costume is good idea, and plausible for the storyline involved. In Knightfall Part 3 of the Batman story Bruce wears a bat-like mask the 'Tengu' to fight Lady Shiva's warriors as part of his re-training. With the set-up obviously being geared to feature The Silver Samurai perhaps it will include something similiar, like a mask Logan wears to fight him in a ritualistic manner.
Then the style could go on to appeal to Wolverine if more movies follow this one and he needs a dedicated suit to wear. It all really depends on whether Jackman/Aronofsky is using this to tell more stories in the future or not.
One thing is for sure the X-Men universe seems horribly confused at the moment on film.
Originally posted by Lord Shadow ZWhy would I be embarrassed to like Wolverine?🤨 I dont care about peoples reactions, I simply state what its gonna be like. And I assure you the film makers wouldnt want anyone reacting this way. They wont risk people complaining about the movie just to please comicbook fans. Doesnt mean im embarrassed or dont want the costume. Just means im a realist.
Did I mention yellow and blue? It could be his orange and brown or some new costume, maybe black perhaps. It seems with your comment you seem inwardly embarrassed to like Wolverine in the first place if you are afraid of other people's reaction to it.
Originally posted by SamZED
Why would I be embarrassed to like Wolverine?🤨 I dont care about peoples reactions, I simply state what its gonna be like. And I assure you the film makers wouldnt want anyone reacting this way. They wont risk people complaining about the movie just to please comicbook fans. Doesnt mean im embarrassed or dont want the costume. Just means im a realist.
In your previous post you are clearly referring to other people and what they would think, that means you are bothered by it otherwise it wouldn't be an issue for you. There are many fans of Wolverine who want the costume, go to CBM or SuperheroHype and you'll find plenty of fans there who are tired of seeing 'Logan' or, and I like this one ' Hugh Jackman with claws'.
Before you suggest I'm being influenced by these opinions I was after a Wolverine costume since the leather biker gang in X1. Seriously now, what makes Wolverine so different that him having a costume is so difficult to understand and other superheroes have got, and are getting accurate , or damned near to it adaptions. Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Spider-Man, Blade, Green Lantern, The Shadow, Watchmen Fantastic Four, Superman etc.
I could go on but I can't recall these being unsuccessful (apart from Thor, CA and GL obviously) just because they are wearing a unrealistic or too colourful costume, any genuine movie fan will judge them on plot and dialogue.
Originally posted by Lord Shadow ZReferring to other people and what they would think, yes. So? I dont understand how you got from it that im embarrassed to like Wolverine. I was reffering to what other people would think only because that's what the FILM MAKERS would care mostly about. The majority. And since the film makers have the last say on the subject and they'll go with whatever the majority wants.. Why should we not care what the majority thinks as it effects what we get in the end?
In your previous post you are clearly referring to other people and what they would think, that means you are bothered by it otherwise it wouldn't be an issue for you. There are many fans of Wolverine who want the costume, go to CBM or SuperheroHype and you'll find plenty of fans there who are tired of seeing 'Logan' or, and I like this one ' Hugh Jackman with claws'.
The difference is, Blade's costume is a black coat and a bulletproof vest which goes well with the character. If he had pink tights in comics I assure you they would've changed that for the movie. Superman's costume is too iconic. Spider-man cracks jokes, fools around etc. People dont take him all that seriously, he's a fun character. As for Wolverine.. he's so popular (among people that dont read books and dont understand the uniform thing) because he's "tough and badass" with the attitude. And yellow costume with blue underwear on top would've kinda ruined the tough badass type for anyone who hasnt read comicbooks. I know because my brother loves the x-men movies, and he doesnt read books. And ive seen his face when I showed him Logan in his costume. And 80% of people who go to the cinema dont read X-men and would react the same way. The film makers know that, so they wont have it.
Orange and brown would work better though, agreed.
Originally posted by SamZED
Referring to other people and what they would think, yes. So? I dont understand how you got from it that im embarrassed to like Wolverine. I was reffering to what other people would think only because that's what the FILM MAKERS would care mostly about. The majority. And since the film makers have the last say on the subject and they'll go with whatever the majority wants.. Why should we not care what the majority thinks as it effects what we get in the end?The difference is, Blade's costume is a black coat and a bulletproof vest which goes well with the character. If he had pink tights in comics I assure you they would've changed that for the movie. Superman's costume is too iconic. Spider-man cracks jokes, fools around etc. People dont take him all that seriously, he's a fun character. As for Wolverine.. he's so popular (among people that dont read books and dont understand the uniform thing) because he's "tough and badass" with the attitude. And yellow costume with blue underwear on top would've kinda ruined the tough badass type for anyone who hasnt read comicbooks. I know because my brother loves the x-men movies, and he doesnt read books. And ive seen his face when I showed him Logan in his costume. And 80% of people who go to the cinema dont read X-men and would react the same way. The film makers know that, so they wont have it.
Orange and brown would work better though, agreed.
Ok, if you say you are not embarrassed about Wolverine then I made a wrong assumption. Sorry.
But what I was saying was in regard to the actual popularity of the costumes in the movies I mentioned not being the reason why the movies failed or succeeded. It is the plot, atmosphere and characters that are important.
Wolverine is a tough character but so are a lot of characters who have costumes which could be described as fanciful, and get some form of screen treatment or adaption of it. Like I said before most other superheroes have a defined 'look' but Wolverine, aside from the mask could be taken many ways and adapted. The suit could be light material like a military combat suit (similar in ways to Captain America or Black Widow), all the filmmaker has to do is supend our disbelief and explain the material as advanced tecnology(I wish they would do this with Batman also!).
I don't know call it adamantium bi-weave material or something and thats how the average movie fan can then relate to them wearing it. It could be then mostly black with some orange or brown 'Wolverine' stripes descending from each shoulders and around the midriff. You have the space between the elbow and forearm bare in order to make it less like a bodysuit while retaining his look with the mask and gloves.
I wouldn't want a full one piece outfit , that would look bad but a two-piece suit e.g. upper and lower sections would work fine (doesn't need a noticable belt though).
Originally posted by SamZED
And 80% of people who go to the cinema dont read X-men and would react the same way. The film makers know that, so they wont have it.
Exactly, all these comic book characters that getting adapted are like John McClane to most that don't read comics just another movie character.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Exactly, all these comic book characters that getting adapted are like John McClane to most that don't read comics just another movie character.
Then if they don't care about the character in any way and are just watching it for what it is, then why is the costume seen as so ridiculous?
And the difference with John McClane and other 'action heroes' they don't have a detailed history; their history, looks and their entire being starts with movies, a more accessable format than comic books.
Comic-book characters are completely different in that respect, they have almost a secondary existence in another format. It would take the most ignorant person not to know a movie isn't based off a comic book character, especially when it brought up in interviews, behind the scenes specials, websites, forums, blogs etc.
You would find out eventually, and then without knowing it you would realise that for example Blade is different to McClane in that respect. Both are movie characters yet one is comic-based so you would eventually realise the difference and in this world of technology you would be able to find out in 5 minutes before the movie has started.
Jackman Getting Bigger for The Wolverine
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/125338-jackman-getting-bigger-for-the-wolverine
210 pounds
seems like Darren Aronofsky has actually checked out the comics.
Re: Jackman Getting Bigger for The Wolverine
Originally posted by Kazenji
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/125338-jackman-getting-bigger-for-the-wolverine210 pounds
seems like Darren Aronofsky has actually checked out the comics.
That is better than before, but he'd need to get to 250-260lbs to start to look like he was built like Wolverine. 6'2 210lbs is my height and weight and I don't have a body type anywhere close to Wolverine.
Re: Re: Jackman Getting Bigger for The Wolverine
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That is better than before, but he'd need to get to 250-260lbs to start to look like he was built like Wolverine. 6'2 210lbs is my height and weight and I don't have a body type anywhere close to Wolverine.
Don't forget, 210 is his current weight, and he's still on his 6000 calorie diet, trying to get bigger. I don't know if he'll get to 250-260, but I think they know that 210 is not going to cut it.
Re: Re: Re: Jackman Getting Bigger for The Wolverine
Originally posted by Ize19
Don't forget, 210 is his current weight, and he's still on his 6000 calorie diet, trying to get bigger. I don't know if he'll get to 250-260, but I think they know that 210 is not going to cut it.
That's true and every little bit helps. Months ago a read somewhere that Jackman was training with the Rock to build muscle, or at least using the same regiment Rock used to add 20 pounds for Faster.
Overall I enjoyed the first movie but throughout the X-men series Wolverine is obviously played by Hugh Jackman who is like 6'2'' maybe a little taller. Wolverine is 5'3'' in the comics and built as ****. Hugh Jackman's well-built but my problem is with the height. Wolverine's supposed to be a short stocky ferocious guy like a wolverine is in the animal kingdom. A wolverine is small (3-4 feet long, 30-40 pounds) and can take down much larger predators like a moose (6-7 feet high and 850–1580 pounds). So to have a tall man play the part of wolverine does not make the cut in my book.
Originally posted by Darth Nhilus
Overall I enjoyed the first movie but throughout the X-men series Wolverine is obviously played by Hugh Jackman who is like 6'2'' maybe a little taller. Wolverine is 5'3'' in the comics and built as ****. Hugh Jackman's well-built but my problem is with the height. Wolverine's supposed to be a short stocky ferocious guy like a wolverine is in the animal kingdom. A wolverine is small (3-4 feet long, 30-40 pounds) and can take down much larger predators like a moose (6-7 feet high and 850–1580 pounds). So to have a tall man play the part of wolverine does not make the cut in my book.
You're like, 11 years too late with this complaint.
On paper, Hugh Jackman may have been as miscast as Sean Connery once was for the first James Bond film. But in both cases, audiences and the creators loved them so much in the roles (Ian Fleming and the Marvel brass respectfully) that small details were pushed aside, like Connery's working class Scot accent and Jackman's height.
I certainly didn't care. They did what they could to minimize Jackman to average height on screen (James Marsden is three inches shorter, but appears at Jackman's height or slightly more in their scenes together.)
I was just thrilled Bryan Singer sacked the idea to make him a American from Alaska, rather than a western Canadian.
Besides, Jackman likely has only one more film left, then they will be looking for a newer, younger actor to take the role in the future.
Aronofski has left...
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/128944-darren-aronofsky-no-longer-directing-the-wolverine
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