Originally posted by Enyalus
Uh, Mxy went to Heaven in WF. And trashed that shit and the angels included. Lucy and Michael aren't stopping him.HOTU either beats or stalemates.
I never knew Mxy in WF went to heaven and faced off against Michael or ever faced off against Lucy. When did this happen? IMO both beat him and without much issue.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosimxy/bat-mite were only shown battling one another at the gates of heaven - not within the 'actual' bounds of heaven itself. and iirc, aside from those two, the only other characters depicted in that one panel were perry white and jimmy olsen - ie. none among the 'true' heavenly host were ever shown.
I never knew Mxy in WF went to heaven and faced off against Michael or ever faced off against Lucy. When did this happen? IMO both beat him and without much issue.
and like i've said in other threads, sure mxy could throw a creation-busting attack at michael/lucifer, but they've both easily endured the big bang of a multiverse at ground zero, without so much as a scratch to show for it.
that said, the most mxy could do to mike/lucy is stalemate them. thus, he stops there.
Originally posted by Galan007
mxy/bat-mite were only shown battling one another at the gates of heaven - not within the 'actual' bounds of heaven itself. and iirc, aside from those two, the only other characters depicted in that one panel were perry white and jimmy olsen - ie. none among the 'true' heavenly host were ever shown.
That 'multiversal' big bang, Mike had to die to create. Granted, Lucy was standing right there when it went off...But, the whole multiversal thing was a retcon, what, 50+ issues later? It was originally a single universe.
Unless you count the instance where Michael swatted the Spectre away in DC (and, I'm not even clear if there's a consensus on it being the same Michael as in Vertigo, or a different being entirely), Michael and Lucy didn't impress me as much as WF Mxy did.
Originally posted by Galan007
mxy/bat-mite were only shown battling one another at the gates of heaven - not within the 'actual' bounds of heaven itself. and iirc, aside from those two, the only other characters depicted in that one panel were perry white and jimmy olsen - ie. none among the 'true' heavenly host were ever shown.and like i've said in other threads, sure mxy could throw a creation-busting attack at michael/lucifer, but they've both easily endured the big bang of a multiverse at ground zero, without so much as a scratch to show for it.
that said, the most mxy could do to mike/lucy is stalemate them. thus, he stops there.
interesting. I was wondering how you see or feel mxy does against the LT, HOTU and Elaine Galan?
Originally posted by Enyalusdoes not god also reside in heaven? if so, i have a hard time believing he too was owned. *shrug*
I'd go back and look if I had it on me, but I had thought there were one, if not two angels flying around during Mxy and Bat-mite's little scuffle. And afterwards they destroyed it, so...they pwn'd Heaven.
Originally posted by Enyalusthe fact that michael had already reformed on the very next page, none the worse for wear, tells me he could have easily tanked the big bang, as lucifer did. not to mention the fact that michael/lucifer have always been portrayed as equals in all areas - and are really only differentiated by their very unique demeanors.
That 'multiversal' big bang, Mike had to die to create. Granted, Lucy was standing right there when it went off...
Originally posted by Enyalusit doesn't really matter when the retcon happened, the point is: it happened. that said, the story/plot was altered in such a way that lucifer's creation = a multiverse. thus, the big bang released from michael must have had sufficient energy to create said multiverse.
But, the whole multiversal thing was a retcon, what, 50+ issues later? It was originally a single universe.
Originally posted by Galan007
does not god also reside in heaven? if so, i have a hard time believing he too was owned. *shrug*
Originally posted by Galan007
the fact that michael had already reformed on the very next page, none the worse for wear, tells me he could have easily tanked the big bang, as lucifer did. not to mention the fact that michael/lucifer have always been portrayed as equals in all areas - and are really only differentiated by their very unique demeanors.
Originally posted by Galan007
it doesn't really matter when the retcon happened, the point is: it happened. that said, the story/plot was altered in such a way that lucifer's creation = a multiverse. thus, the big bang released from michael must have had sufficient energy to create said multiverse.
Still think Mxy was vastly more impressive.
Originally posted by Enyalusyou have seen the voice?!
Dunno. From my limited grasp of DC cosmogony, I've only seen The Voice dwell in Heaven.
damn. you're good! 😛
Originally posted by Enyalus👆
Yeah, I don't dispute that. I forgot we were talking about durability here. 😮
Originally posted by Enyalusas far as displayed power output is concerned, i completely agree. mxy easily vaporized the entirety of DC, then recreated it all with a snap. but when considering the force that mike/lucy have already tanked, it's hard to imagine mxy being able to do more than stalemate them..
Ghey.Still think Mxy was vastly more impressive.