Superman Vs Thanos

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Originally posted by Enyalus
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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On the level of the "S" shield? No. Hell, even Superboy, is riding front row on it.

This statement stinks of bias.

Originally posted by Allankles
At some point, you just acknowledge that Superman is just that damn strong. This "S" shield talk can only get so far, before you start using circular logic to derive patterns and character levels.

We know the writers don't operate on a KMC character tier list.

Your telling me, you haven't witnessed the "S" shield, ability to ride the plot induced stupidity?

I mean seriously, Superboy is able to do more damage to Prime, than Sodam Yat with all that power, 2 incarnations of Mon-El, 3 incarnations of Ultra Boy, and tons of other powerful legion members with his freaking heat vision alone.......

Originally posted by batdude123
This statement stinks of bias.

You just plain stink.

No just a statement based on simple observation.

One thing I will say... In a comic book setting.. Supes strength is as good as it needs to be to save the universe

Originally posted by Enyalus
Starbreaker was actively resisting that?

Yes.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So, your saying Thanos is the same size as Supes then?

Wat? I was arguing your point about DS swatting Supes. DS is for all intense and purposes over a foot taller than Supes and has a huge build, it makes swatting Superman physically easier for him.

Thanos is only a few inches taller than Superman - maybe 4 inches taller. I doubt he could swat Superman away while Supes was flying at him.

Thanos has pimp slapped some people but he doesn't swat them away as they try to blitz him in flight, he doesn't have the wing span to do this to Supes before getting hit, which is neither here not there as far as my arguments over this fight are concerned.

^ huh?

Leverage. Being taller and longer gives him better leverage. Orion doesn't swat Superman away, he doesn't have the reach and by extension the leverage to do it as casually as DS has done.

It's not impossible but he can't do it as casually. If you had 2 sledge hammers of the same size (length mostly).

And you reduce the handle of one sledge hammer by a third of it original height. The longer sledge hammer would be better to use if you were swatting away flying dining chairs (as an example).

More leverage, the necessary force is spread with less effort and motion.

i'm aware of the phenomena, it's just that leverage kinda gets tossed out the window when you can shatter a mountain with a jab. :/

maybe if it was batman shackled to DD, but not these two.

Originally posted by Allankles
Leverage. Being taller and longer gives him better leverage. Orion doesn't swat Superman away, he doesn't have the reach and by extension the leverage to do it as casually as DS has done.

It's not impossible but he can't do it as casually. If you had 2 sledge hammers of the same size (length mostly).

And you reduce the handle of one sledge hammer by a third of it original height. The longer sledge hammer would be better to use if you were swatting away flying dining chairs (as an example).

More leverage, the necessary force is spread with less effort and motion.

I'm curious... what are the exact dimenions of DS compared to Thanos?

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Originally posted by Allankles
Despero? I don't see him as more than a peer. What makes you think his average is better than Supes?

Despero has raped supes captian marvel and wondy all at the same time.

thanos>despero>supes unamped

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Originally posted by Allankles
Supes has strength feats that say otherwise. Beating Surfer with charged punches doesn't mean he's stronger than Supes. I don't know why people make assumptions on strength based on a few one time scuffles.

Cpt. Marvel once sucker punched Supes and ko'd him with much fewer punches than it took Thanos to drop Surfer that one time. Are you then going to make the asssumption Marvel is above Thanos or Supes?

These guys are all strong enough that if they land a certain number of unanswered punches they are likely to drop their opponent.

The difference is that if Supes is landing punches on you, he's not going to stop until your out. It won't matter if it takes 5 minutes or 5 days, he'll hit Thanos until he drops.

Nothing in the comics would have prepared Thanos for this kind of a brawl. You see Superman has already survived damn near getting destroyed in a fight and prevailed regardless.

Thanos, though he has been in dire straits and died (Pre Death and Drax), has never been in a fight where he's been made to bleed out of his pores.

thanos has handled Wm thor which is FAR stronger then superman, supes would need a VEry long sundip to even match that kinda power. Strength feats are not enough to save supermans bacon. A sunampped supes fairs better but thanos is just outta supes leauge her i think.

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Originally posted by Allankles
Thor is on par with Supes because of his energy based powers. By strength alone Supes is his superior. Superman has dynmaic strength that varies based on his will power. There's a reason why DC don't give Supes strength amps, his powers already cover that area.

I agree with this but i still think thanos rapes supes =)

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Originally posted by zeel
thanos has handled Wm thor which is FAR stronger then superman, supes would need a VEry long sundip to even match that kinda power. Strength feats are not enough to save supermans bacon. A sunampped supes fairs better but thanos is just outta supes leauge her i think.

Superman wouldn't need a long sundip. He'd just need a regular old sundip.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I'm curious... what are the exact dimenions of DS compared to Thanos?

I think DS is like 7'7 or something. Thanos is like 6'7. Superman is 6'4/3.

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That was an epic fail...

Are you really going with the Supes has more strength feats then Thanos and thus he's stronger? That is such a played out statement and never mind how big of a fallacy it is. Let me you this Allan... Doesn't it stand to reason, a hero and DC's flagship character, is going have more lifting feats being that he has to save the earth/universe almost ever issue? Isn't it also true that a hero is going to have much more feats such as these while a Villian like DS, Thanos etc etc won't? You know the answers to these so I find it amusing you use this to gauge their strength.

When Nvr used to be on this site he even agreed DS was stronger then Supes and NOT because he had more listing feats as again he's a villain. However, when DS can casually back hand supes with ease on a few occasions that tells me and others he's stronger then Supes. Supes might be the better, quicker fighter who is also really strong and a peer but IMO DS is a tad stronger.

Now, going off that line of thinking... You would agree that characters such as Hulk, Thor, Surfer, The Thing etc etc are very strong and also have very good lifting feats right? Some even that compare to Supes feats... Yet what do we notice when these super strong heroes with lifting feats face Thanos... He casually dismisses them with back hand slaps or punches them till the brink of Death with ease. When Thanos can laugh as the strength of The Hulk and The thing combined and say I'm strength personified that should tell you something. When the writer of Hulk for years says Thanos is in his own league when it comes to strength speak volumes to that point.
Point is, you don't need lifting feat after lifting feat to prove your strong or stronger then another character. Despero doesn't have those feats yet you would agree his strength is that or equal to Supes right as shown on panel? I bet you even think Supes has better Durability then Thanos right? Please, give me a chuckle again.

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Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman wouldn't need a long sundip. He'd just need a regular old sundip.

You could be right on this one but i really think supes will need more then brute strength for this fight.

Originally posted by Allankles
I think DS is like 7'7 or something. Thanos is like 6'7. Superman is 6'4/3.

yes but superman weighs what 225 are the numbers I've seen and thanos weighs 985. That is a huge huge difference.

just for fact checking, thanos' dimensions on his bio's to this day are still the same ones from the first handbook. pre-death upgrade for the majority of it, more accurately, his power sections are rarely up to date.

Does anybody have the exact dimensions of supes, ds and thanos?