Originally posted by rotiart
incorporating does not mean self taught... it means you added it to your repertoire... now i'm not saying he didn't self teach himself.. just correcting the phrase itself...
* true... my bad...
Originally posted by KingD19
It has been stated that Gambit fights with Savate(French Kickboxing), and he's good. He would win.
* it has been stated Scott holds black belts in Judo and Aikido... 🙂
Originally posted by KingD19
Let me tell you why Gambit would win with Savate, because with Savate, it's similar to krav maga and dirty boxing, crotch shots, eye shots, anything to hurt your opponent. That combined with Gambit's abilities, makes this a win for him.
In a MA fight it's not usually style vs style, it's the skill of the fighter vs the skill of the other fighter. Someone who uses Sambo could very well drill someone who practices Jeet Kune Do and vice versa.
Originally posted by rotiartA lot of those are PIS though, but I'm surprised to hear someone arguing about skill vs large physical advantage. No offense to anyone, just remember it coming up in Spiderman threads frequently.
incorporating does not mean self taught... it means you added it to your repertoire... now i'm not saying he didn't self teach himself.. just correcting the phrase itself...and if this is true hand to hand... since gambits agility is amped by his powers does he get to do that?
also on the final note... i don't remember ever once seeing gambit throw down a punch... hits with stick sure.. but not with his hands... he could have glass knuckles for all we know...
and.. at battlehammer.. .how does one with skill beat one with greater physical stats?... spidey v firelord... spidey v hulk... captain america v ... hell half the avengers roster of enemies.. .batman fighting any of darkseids minions...
etc. etc... etc...
gambit will take most of the wins since he is very agile and way too skilled for cyclops...since when cyclops is a skilled fighter anyway? yes i know cyclops took out 6 man blah blah but lets face it 90% of the times we see someone punch cyclops out and he is knocked out and i am not talking about someone like the hulk i am talking about nick fury level, hell there was one issue in uncanny x-men when a soldier punched cyclops and knocked him out.. now every time i see gambit using his fighting skills he is like night crawler he is always giving someone a beating with his acrobatics and his flying kicks
Originally posted by KingD19
Let me tell you why Gambit would win with Savate, because with Savate, it's similar to krav maga and dirty boxing, crotch shots, eye shots, anything to hurt your opponent. That combined with Gambit's abilities, makes this a win for him.
savate is just watered down muay thai (no elbows), whereas krav magra is a "survive at all costs" fighting system developed in the harsh israeli battlegrounds, most of which revolves around disarming your opponent.
savate has far too many illegal moves to be compared to krav magra
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
A lot of those are PIS though, but I'm surprised to hear someone arguing about skill vs large physical advantage. No offense to anyone, just remember it coming up in Spiderman threads frequently.
I'm not the biggest gambit fan but I did use to read xmen... I also read the thread as hand to hand only so I assumed no stat amping by gambit to make himself more agile or whatever... And I'm not throwing pis out there for the sake of it bit other than to say than skill sometimes outbeats pure power...
For example spidey vs electro... A guy who should by all means electrocute spidey wherever he is... Or rhino... Captain america using his skills and well his shield to take down tougher opponents... Skill can sometimes overcome a small physical bonus...
And I had a couple points
1. Does gambit get to amp himself which gives him an unfair advantage as Scott doesn't get amps so I assumed it was no powers for either person.
2. This is hand to hand which gambit usually shows skill with weapons and not hand to hand
3. Most gambit feats are while amped so it's hard to Gage a non amped gambit
gambit will win because he is too fast and agile for cyclops as simple as it is, everytime i see someone goes fist fighting with cyclops he beats the crap out of him if its an oredenery soldier or if its someone like nick fury you always see cyclops take a punch and being knocked out or down, when you see gambit fight he is always using agility to avoid being hit and you always see him kicking someone with his kicks he is very skilled as a fighter and even without his bo stick he is still a great fighter on his own.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I'm gonna remember you said this one.
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re thread: cyclops wasn't trained by the x-men per se. he did learn some things from them and incorporated (as someone already said) certain things in to his own skillset, but i doubt he has time to sit down and learn much when he's been the primary teacher at the school for many years now.