Originally posted by Metalmanx
I'm gonna remember you said this one.
Please enlighten me how this helps you.
Originally posted by rotiart
And I had a couple points
1. Does gambit get to amp himself which gives him an unfair advantage as Scott doesn't get amps so I assumed it was no powers for either person.
2. This is hand to hand which gambit usually shows skill with weapons and not hand to hand
3. Most gambit feats are while amped so it's hard to Gage a non amped gambit
it h2h, it says nothing about physical powers.
scot normally does not fight h2h period, while gambit fights in melee combat far more.
gambit body automaticall is amp at superhuman levels, he deos not amp himself and he will have his superhuman phsycial abilities unless other wises stated.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Its never been shown that Gambits powers keep his body at an amped level. He has to consciously tap into them to achieve said attributes.
He does not consciously amp his phsyical stats, there are constantly at superhuman level (his ability, dexterity and reflexes) he can't even term them off.
Because Gambit's body is a storehouse for kinetic energy, resulting in increased agility and dexterity, to have increased strength, his powers would have to be able to directly effect his muscles, which they don't. And yes, his body is constantly amped, the only aspect of his power which he controls is how much charge goes into objects.
Originally posted by KingD19
Because Gambit's body is a storehouse for kinetic energy, resulting in increased agility and dexterity, to have increased strength, his powers would have to be able to directly effect his muscles, which they don't. And yes, his body is constantly amped, the only aspect of his power which he controls is how much charge goes into objects.
Thats a ridiculous explanation, in order to move as fast as he's capable his MUSCLES must be amped correct? It would only be plausible that his strength would be amped as well, which as i have seen is never stated. How can his leg muscles propel him to acrobatic heights because of his powers but said muscles only kick as hard as a normal human because the strength portion of his muscles werent enhanced? Until otherwise shown Im gonna conclude that he must consciously amp his attributes
Okay, to put it simply, that's how his creators made him. He always has a static psychic shield because of his powers, his physical attributes are always amped because of his powers. His strength isn't amped because his creators didn't make it that way. And maybe he's so acrobatic because his body stores and releases kinetic energy for jumps and kicks.
Originally posted by Artimid
Well, I am going to have to say Cyclops wins, as Cyclops has beat down a berserk Wolverine single handed 1 on 1 without his powers.With his intelligence and his training, I place Cyclops pretty far above Gambit as far as 1vs1 goes.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
That far less impressive then your making it sound. For starters all he did was dodge wolverine after he flipped him over and even stated he had to stop the fight before he got killed. This was also prior to wolverine character development, wolverine was not a skilled fighter at the time that was written in later. It impressive, but nothing beyond what gambit has showed. Also we dont base are opinion here off single showings. If cyclopes tried that student now he be dropped quite easily.
Not to mention that happened right after Wolverine's encounter with Proteus. He was all messed up.
Gambit FTW.
Yeah, but Savate isn't some sort all powerful class of fighting, not to mention Cyclops might know it as well. He does know Judo, he trained in Boxing, and while he isn't up to Batman or Captain American standards, he isn't exactly some unskilled runt.
I still give it a pretty far level ahead for Cyclops.
Originally posted by Artimid
Yeah, but Savate isn't some sort all powerful class of fighting, not to mention Cyclops might know it as well. He does know Judo, he trained in Boxing, and while he isn't up to Batman or Captain American standards, he isn't exactly some unskilled runt.I still give it a pretty far level ahead for Cyclops.
Really how does cyclopes know savate? I think your giving cyclopes the benfit of the doubt when it no warented.
No one saying savate the all power class of fighting, there saying cyclopes is dealing with a meta human who out classes cyclopes pretty handily physically and who also a master of a martial art.
also savate>judo, one a style for real life fighting another is a style design for sport.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Actaully it has been. gambit has no controll over his physical superhuman abilities, which was even mention during a basket ball game vs woverine and rogue.He does not consciously amp his phsyical stats, there are constantly at superhuman level (his ability, dexterity and reflexes) he can't even term them off.
* the match is H2H, everybody already assumed Gambit's agility... let the TS clarify if both men are fighting with no powers because Gambit's power includes natural agility (as said in the comic basketball game), let's clarify if Gambit has those amp or not, it would tip a big factor of the match...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not to mention that happened right after Wolverine's encounter with Proteus. He was all messed up.Gambit FTW.
any man who can dodge foot long claws that can slice through anything coming at him like that deserves props, imo.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Really how does cyclopes know savate? I think your giving cyclopes the benfit of the doubt when it no warented.No one saying savate the all power class of fighting, there saying cyclopes is dealing with a meta human who out classes cyclopes pretty handily physically and who also a master of a martial art.
also savate>judo, one a style for real life fighting another is a style design for sport.
if judo wasn't so effective, it wouldn't be taught so widely.