Demitri Maximoff vs Kain

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Originally posted by Rapidash
That's not how things work. There's no veto in a debate. Just because you don't concede doesn't mean the other character can't be declared winner. A character does not need your sanction to be the winner. No one has that authority in an online debate. It's not how a debate works.
Truth.

Originally posted by Phanteros
Show me kain's combat.

Your going to have to ask for a specific move, Kain is not one of those anime characters who are constantly shown as stylishly fighting and jumping about. If you want evidence for a particulour ability then ask, as for now as far as that vid is concerned a simple Kain teleport and slash wins him this battle.

Originally posted by Rapidash
That's not how things work. There's no veto in a debate. Just because you don't concede doesn't mean the other character can't be declared winner. A character does not need your sanction to be the winner. No one has that authority in an online debate. It's not how a debate works.

No character can simply be declared winner, as you said....no one has that authority, which leaves me correct, this thread stays open with no winner and since I am the only one who is likely to debate Kain, this thread is useless and has no judgement.

Originally posted by Burning thought
No character can simply be declared winner, as you said....no one has that authority, which leaves me correct, this thread stays open with no winner and since I am the only one who is likely to debate Kain, this thread is useless and has no judgement.

Nobody really debates for Kain except you. If you quit, Kain pretty much loses.

As becci said, nobody has that authority, if I quit then nobody wins until as i said earlier, come back to debate it or somebody else does.

Fine, I take it as a concession that Kain gets horribly raped. and if you quite you confirm Kain's lost and all the other threads he was in will be his lost.

Originally posted by Burning thought
No character can simply be declared winner, as you said....no one has that authority, which leaves me correct, this thread stays open with no winner and since I am the only one who is likely to debate Kain, this thread is useless and has no judgement.

It doesn't leave you correct. In an online debate, veto doesn't exist. If everyone but you says one thing, it doesn't mean it isn't so because of the "but you".

It would be like throwing Hitler into a Jewish convention and have him debate his philosophy. He wouldn't concede, but he'd still be fighting a losing battle.
Do you really think that just because you are certain about something, you have authority to declare the opposition "not victorious"?

Once again this thread isn't going anywhere until you debate if you can't, well Kain loses.

Originally posted by Rapidash
It doesn't leave you correct. In an online debate, veto doesn't exist. If everyone but you says one thing, it doesn't mean it isn't so because of the "but you".

It would be like throwing Hitler into a Jewish convention and have him debate his philosophy. He wouldn't concede, but he'd still be fighting a losing battle.
Do you really think that just because you are certain about something, you have authority to declare the opposition "not victorious"?

Yet if everyone but me says one thing that does not mean its correct either so ime afraid I am indeed left correct that there is no winner until a debate is had and someone concedes.

Originally posted by Phanteros
Once again this thread isn't going anywhere until you debate if you can't, well Kain loses.

Read your own thread lol, I answered your question, now reply....

I'm not gonna lie, even if BT does defend Kain I never really take his posts seriously in evaluating whether Kain wins or not. Basicly, he's so prone to spewing nonsense I don't count him.

Unfortunately, his constant banter about Kain gets Kain set up to lose in spite thread like this, rather than against characters he can beat, closer to his own power.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'm not gonna lie, even if BT does defend Kain I never really take his posts seriously in evaluating whether Kain wins or not. Basicly, he's so prone to spewing nonsense I don't count him.

Unfortunately, his constant banter about Kain gets Kain set up to lose in spite thread like this, rather than against characters he can beat, closer to his own power.

Kain Vs. Dar'Khan with all bias set aside. Now that's a battle I would like to see 😄 I'd say that Kain is roughly that level in terms of Azerothian muscle.

So now that I proven that Demtri has greater combat speed. lets move on to overall power.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'm not gonna lie, even if BT does defend Kain I never really take his posts seriously in evaluating whether Kain wins or not. Basicly, he's so prone to spewing nonsense I don't count him.

Unfortunately, his constant banter about Kain gets Kain set up to lose in spite thread like this, rather than against characters he can beat, closer to his own power.

No you claim you dont take my posts seriously to defend yourself from the fact you cannot actually debate at all and that you cannot create much more of an argument than even perhaps your friend Moocow. Its no wonder you want to rant and attack me yet cannot find instance of such to back up your claims but it all makes sense because ive collapsed most of your theories and arguments before so its no wonder you are sore 🙄

Originally posted by Phanteros
So now that I proven that Demtri has greater combat speed. lets move on to overall power.

Youve not proven anything yet, youve shown one video of Dimtri moveing at perhaps peak human speed while getting completly defeated by Pyron.

Originally posted by Burning thought
No you claim you dont take my posts seriously to defend yourself from the fact you cannot actually debate at all and that you cannot create much more of an argument than even perhaps your friend Moocow. Its no wonder you want to rant and attack me yet cannot find instance of such to back up your claims but it all makes sense because ive collapsed most of your theories and arguments before so its no wonder you are sore 🙄

Youve not proven anything yet, youve shown one video of Dimtri moveing at perhaps peak human speed while getting completly defeated by Pyron.

He moves way faster than Kain has shown no prove me Kain's speed.

It's cute when BT thinks he's actually disproved a claim.

Originally posted by Phanteros
He moves way faster than Kain has shown no prove me Kain's speed.

He moves at peak human in that vid, if that.

YouTube video

In the vid above Kain only has to do the ability at 1:08-1:09 to kill Demitri, he takes about just over a second to take out 5 guys, jus divide that by 5 and youll get 200 milliseconds thats all it would take to kill Demitri.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It's cute when BT thinks he's actually disproved a claim.

its boring and tiresome when you troll constantly in threads without adding anything, stop jerking off to yourself and actually argue for something for once in a thread or leave, your just making a fool of yourself.

Originally posted by Burning thought
He moves at peak human in that vid, if that.

YouTube video

In the vid above Kain only has to do the ability at 1:08-1:09 to kill Demitri, he takes about just over a second to take out 5 guys, jus divide that by 5 and youll get 200 milliseconds thats all it would take to kill Demitri.

its boring and tiresome when you troll constantly in threads without adding anything, stop jerking off to yourself and actually argue for something for once in a thread or leave, your just making a fool of yourself.

The good thing is that he gets Pyron's powers as well so you need to do more better than that.(current Demetri has all of pyron's powers) and it didn't even kill those guys.

also Demetri can now take make clones of himself like pyron.

No...not really, Pyrons not reacted on that level in combat either, his only real speed is in his large fetal position in space....never shown to be able to do that in actual combat so he is just as helpless.

Post something worth debating over? =P You've never actually disproved anythign either myself or Moo have posted, despite claiming such.

Originally posted by Burning thought
No...not really, Pyrons not reacted on that level in combat either, his only real speed is in his large fetal position in space....never shown to be able to do that in actual combat so he is just as helpless.
So Kain=Demetri also I just did.