Demitri Maximoff vs Kain

Originally posted by Phanteros
So Kain=Demetri also I just did.

No Kain=Demitri+Pyronx2 😉

Hes faster, more powerful and has a higher chance to survive. Hes probably also more intelligent.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Post something worth debating over? =P You've never actually disproved anythign either myself or Moo have posted, despite claiming such.

Weve played this game before, I posted me disproving both of you and you just sat there telling me ime wrong without anything else to say, you fled.

Demetri in his normal from rivals Kain.

Only by a darkstalker fans fantasy, actual feats and canon suggest otherwise. But anyway, ill use your mentality and say "if you wont debate then kain wins!" .

Originally posted by Burning thought
Only by a darkstalker fans fantasy, actual feats and canon suggest otherwise. But anyway, ill use your mentality and say "if you wont debate then kain wins!" .

Weve played this game before, I posted me disproving both of you and you just sat there telling me ime wrong without anything else to say, you fled.

No, the one in the vid is Demitri at 80% if not above, at 80%+ power level he still has to create temporary shields to protect himself from being destroyed by sunlight, something even lesser Nosgoth vampires were immune to, especially Kain.

And gaining pyrons power as I said is not the same as gaining Pyrons powers, in canon it does not specifically state that Demitri can do the things Pyron can does it....

Even so, as i said by actual feats, they dont hold a candle to Kain who with one or two moves could beat them, hell 80% Demitri just needs to be hit with a light glyph and he gets turned to dust lolz.....

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
More baseless showboating.

Ill take your word for it simply because you are an expert of baseless showboating, thats perhaps one thing youve actually proven on this board.

Originally posted by Burning thought
No, the one in the vid is Demitri at 80% if not above, at 80%+ power level he still has to create temporary shields to protect himself from being destroyed by sunlight, something even lesser Nosgoth vampires were immune to, especially Kain.

And gaining pyrons power as I said is not the same as gaining Pyrons powers, in canon it does not specifically state that Demitri can do the things Pyron can does it....

Even so, as i said by actual feats, they dont hold a candle to Kain who with one or two moves could beat them, hell 80% Demitri just needs to be hit with a light glyph and he gets turned to dust lolz.....

Ill take your word for it simply because you are an expert of baseless showboating, thats perhaps one thing youve actually proven on this board.

But he can only do so temporarily....so all kain has to do is play chikcen and he wins by default anyway....so Kain wins no matter what happens. I suggest you make Demitri immune.

And so your giving Demitri all Pyrons abilities as well? so this is not actually canon demitri but a hyper version and still you cannot provide me with anything to stop Kain from defeating in the single move I have provided on page 3? shame...

Originally posted by Burning thought
But he can only do so temporarily....so all kain has to do is play chikcen and he wins by default anyway....so Kain wins no matter what happens. I suggest you make Demitri immune.

And so your giving Demitri all Pyrons abilities as well? so this is not actually canon demitri but a hyper version and still you cannot provide me with anything to stop Kain from defeating in the single move I have provided on page 3? shame...

All the vids I seen Kain moves just as fast as normal Demetri. Current Pyr-metri can planet bust.

Originally posted by Phanteros
Demetri is Immune when he ate Pyron. also no he still has his defenses as shown in DS 3 after gaining pyron's. also Demetri can teleport too.

All the vids I seen Kain moves just as fast as normal Demetri. Current Pyr-metri can planet bust.

Show me proof for this, and this. And finally this, and I doubt its as quick as Kains teleport+slash, nor half as useful.

Last vid showed kain moving at 200 milliseconds a strike, so no, Demitri has not moved quicker than a normal human from what ive seen. And lol...planet bust? never even implied he can do anything like it.....

BT, you're always the one who quits, not me.

It is not 200 milliseconds a stirke. The telportation move you are currently wanking Kain for takes two or three seconds, and he only hits 4 people in those 2 - 3 seconds.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Show me proof for this, and this. And finally this, and I doubt its as quick as Kains teleport+slash, nor half as useful.

Last vid showed kain moving at 200 milliseconds a strike, so no, Demitri has not moved quicker than a normal human from what ive seen. And lol...planet bust? never even implied he can do anything like it.....

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
BT, you're always the one who quits, not me.

It is not 200 milliseconds a stirke. The telportation move you are currently wanking Kain for takes two or three seconds, and he only hits 4 people in those 2 - 3 seconds.

lol, no, your prob counting from before Kain even does his gameplay animation to even get close to 3 seconds, I would give you 1.5 seconds at most for him to hit 4 opponents and nearly strike the 5th.

He starts the move at about 1:08.2 and just goes to strike the 5th opponent at 1:9.7 as the screen fades, thats about a second or a second and a half, give or take but your making a red herring, its completly irrelvent. Fact is Kain moves far to quick for Demitri to do anything, a fraction of a second is faster than anything Demitri can react to, and in combat Pyron for that matter.

Originally posted by Phanteros
He absorb someone who did so and he gained his power. You forgot in the same vid of Pyron pyron was shown teleporting and bashing Demetri up.

Not in canon, in canon he absorbs Pyron but it does not mean he gains all of Pyrons abilities and even if you do just give him those powers in this thread, it does not help him becase pyron nor Demitri in combat can react to a fraction of a second.

The first thing Kain does when it plays that clip is start his animation. Then I counted it to the end. The whole thing takes about two to three seconds, and he hits four people in that time. So I just ignored the time it takes for a fifth person, since it isn't seen.

Your teleportation is useless. That attack is short range, and its a lot slower than you think it is.

Originally posted by Burning thought
lol, no, your prob counting from before Kain even does his gameplay animation to even get close to 3 seconds, I would give you 1.5 seconds at most for him to hit 4 opponents and nearly strike the 5th.

He starts the move at about 1:08.2 and just goes to strike the 5th opponent at 1:9.7 as the screen fades, thats about a second or a second and a half, give or take but your making a red herring, its completly irrelvent. Fact is Kain moves far to quick for Demitri to do anything, a fraction of a second is faster than anything Demitri can react to, and in combat Pyron for that matter.

Originally posted by Phanteros
y it took three seconds for him to attack all of them and its slow

lol nice one, jump on the bandwagon and no, its far far faster than anything weve seen from Demitri even if it took 3 seconds to hit one person so....what are you playing at?
Even if we assume it took 2 seconds to take out 5 guys, or even 4 guys, we still come to Kain moving at 500 milliseconds and taking Demitri out completly.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
The first thing Kain does when it plays that clip is start his animation. Then I counted it to the end. The whole thing takes about two to three seconds, and he hits four people in that time. So I just ignored the time it takes for a fifth person, since it isn't seen.

Your teleportation is useless. That attack is short range, and its a lot slower than you think it is.

He strikes the 5th person just as the screen fades and it takes 2 seconds at most if you count the gameplay animation.....

useless? short range? range being space which Kain does not travel? its teleportation, the space between two objects is not covered, its bypassed so your making no sense at all....lol a lot slower? wtf....and besdies my feats of perception in vids is higher than yours, Evil pig instant time freeze ftw! lol

Originally posted by Burning thought
He strikes the 5th person just as the screen fades and it takes 2 seconds at most if you count the gameplay animation.....

useless? short range? range being space which Kain does not travel? its teleportation, the space between two objects is not covered, its bypassed so your making no sense at all....lol a lot slower? wtf....and besdies my feats of perception in vids is higher than yours, Evil pig instant time freeze ftw! lol

Space is still traveled. It's like an email or he's like Nightcrawler and warps through a different dimension.

The reason its as fast as it is is because the distance he teleports is small. That appears to be the kind of teleportation similar to Nightcrawlers as Kain simply disappears without a fade animation, which is why it would be short distance.

You can't count in milliseconds, the attack takes two to three seconds. "feats of perception" made me lol though. Nice.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Space is still traveled. It's like an email or he's like Nightcrawler and warps through a different dimension.

The reason its as fast as it is is because the distance he teleports is small. That appears to be the kind of teleportation similar to Nightcrawlers as Kain simply disappears without a fade animation, which is why it would be short distance.

You can't count in milliseconds, the attack takes two to three seconds. "feats of perception" made me lol though. Nice.

No space is traveled, not in this space anyway, elseware is irrelvent because Demitri is not elseware, to him kain is not travelling any distance at all, he just happens to be dimentionally porting his body to another area.

Kain just teleports and slashes Demitri, end of story, demitri who cannot react to a fraction of a second. And while your talking short distance, the distance between one dimension and another is never considered short, considering youve travelled from two dimensions, but as i said before, space in the dimension Demitri is in is not being traveled or touched and where Demitri is, is not an issue.

Ofc you can, you use division, divide a second by 2 and you get 500 milliseconds......the attack takes 1-2 seconds at most. Then were counting in milliseconds if Kain faces a single opponent. Take away gameplay animations and Kain is even quicker, possibly easily touching 200-250 milliseconds to strike a single foe.

Originally posted by Burning thought
No space is traveled, not in this space anyway, elseware is irrelvent because Demitri is not elseware, to him kain is not travelling any distance at all, he just happens to be dimentionally porting his body to another area.

Kain just teleports and slashes Demitri, end of story, demitri who cannot react to a fraction of a second. And while your talking short distance, the distance between one dimension and another is never considered short, considering youve travelled from two dimensions, but as i said before, space in the dimension Demitri is in is not being traveled or touched and where Demitri is, is not an issue.

Ofc you can, you use division, divide a second by 2 and you get 500 milliseconds......the attack takes 1-2 seconds at most. Then were counting in milliseconds if Kain faces a single opponent. Take away gameplay animations and Kain is even quicker, possibly easily touching 200-250 milliseconds to strike a single foe.

You also ignore the fact that demetri can teleport too. and that move was more of a dash than any teleport.