Demitri Maximoff vs Kain

Started by MooCowofJustice9 pages
Originally posted by Burning thought
I am deeply amused thats all, apprently Kain cannot defy physics lol....perhaps Kain hovering, jumping ridiculous distances, transforming his body into mist and back again do not defy any physics? lol

Actually, not really.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
..Failure. For one; Human bodies are mostly water, Kain's body was once human. For him to become mist is not impossible and requires only for his particles to seperate.

For a creature that can become mist to become light enough to temporarily hover is not breaking the laws of physics, either.

If you understand the basics of physics, these things could all be easily explained 😐 Though unlikely, they are not impossible.

For his particules to seperate of his own whim and return solid again is impossible, as is the idea of an entity seperating its particles in the first place.

Hovering in the air is defying physics, its defying gravity.

lol of course their in impossible, people cannot hover or transform into weather patterns.

Originally posted by Phanteros
I already put immune to the sun in the OP.

So your saying your making him immune to the sun? ok

so now he has teleporting clones.

Its pretty obvious we both aren't going to concede are we?

Obvious indeed

Originally posted by Burning thought
For his particules to seperate of his own whim and return solid again is impossible, as is the idea of an entity seperating its particles in the first place.

Hovering in the air is defying physics, its defying gravity.

lol of course their in impossible, people cannot hover or transform into weather patterns.

So your saying your making him immune to the sun? ok

No. I meant basically the fundamental laws of physics, and Kain's mist form doesn't defy any of them.

There are lots of ways to hover too. Manipulate air currents, alter your density, Magneto does it by manipulating magnetic fields.

For his particules to seperate of his own whim and return solid again is impossible, as is the idea of an entity seperating its particles in the first place.

Hovering in the air is defying physics, its defying gravity.

lol of course their in impossible, people cannot hover or transform into weather patterns.

You're confusing defying physics with defying nature. Nature would not normally allow for such to happen, though it can happen in physics.

Also, if you become mist, you are not defying gravity because the heaviest matter floats to the bottom, hence our solid earth beneath us, and lighter air on top.

Moo sniped me! Well played, Justice cow!

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You're confusing defying physics with defying nature. Nature would not normally allow for such to happen, though it can happen in physics.

Also, if you become mist, you are not defying gravity because the heaviest matter floats to the bottom, hence our solid earth beneath us, and lighter air on top.

Moo sniped me! Well played, Justice cow!

What if you dont become mist? what if you just float through supernatural means? e.g. defying gravity/physics.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
No. I meant basically the fundamental laws of physics, and Kain's mist form doesn't defy any of them.

There are lots of ways to hover too. Manipulate air currents, alter your density, Magneto does it by manipulating magnetic fields.

Being able to turn your body into mist defies it completly. Flight defies gravity, as does floating.

Which defies the laws of physics because people cannot alter density or manip magnetic fields.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Being able to turn your body into mist defies it completly. Flight defies gravity, as does floating.

Which defies the laws of physics because people cannot alter density or manip magnetic fields.

No it doesn't. Planes fly by using their design to create lift under the wings with the rushing air beneath them. Magneto can fly by manipulating his magnetic field. Telekinetics fly by levitating themselves. There are a lot of ways to fly, none of them defy physics.

Being able to turn your body into mist doesn't defy physics, as one of the laws states that you cannot create or destroy matter, it says nothing about changing its form. Matter changes form all the time.

Like Scream said, you are confusing defying physics with defying nature. We weren't built with these gifts, but in our fictional writings other people have them. The point is that science can explain them, and they don't violate any laws of physics.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
No it doesn't. Planes fly by using their design to create lift under the wings with the rushing air beneath them. Magneto can fly by manipulating his magnetic field. Telekinetics fly by levitating themselves. There are a lot of ways to fly, none of them defy physics.

Being able to turn your body into mist doesn't defy physics, as one of the laws states that you cannot create or destroy matter, it says nothing about changing its form. Matter changes form all the time.

Like Scream said, you are confusing defying physics with defying nature. We weren't built with these gifts, but in our fictional writings other people have them. The point is that science can explain them, and they don't violate any laws of physics.

Their still defying gravity....even if theres a scientifical reason for it. All of them defy it, giving the reason that their doing it is not an argument for them not defying gravity.

Yes but not on the whim of an entity it does not, certainly not an entity that does it to itself through supernatural means.

Science giving some explanation is does not mean it does not defy science.

Actually, that doesn't defy gravity at all, BT, without gravity it would be impossible.

There are no laws in physics that state you can't change your own state.

Doesn't defy science.

A plane does not defy gravity? lol....Kain hovering in the air does not defy gravity? dont be daft.....

A plane cannot fly without gravity, so how is it defying it? Learn physics and get back to me.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Their still defying gravity....even if theres a scientifical reason for it. All of them defy it, giving the reason that their doing it is not an argument for them not defying gravity.

Yes but not on the whim of an entity it does not, certainly not an entity that does it to itself through supernatural means.

Science giving some explanation is does not mean it does not defy science.

No wonder your logic is terrible.

Defying gravity =/= defying physics. And technically its not even defying gravity, its just getting around it, taking advantage of it, or just pushing through it.

Actually, yeah. It can change on the whim of an entity, and it changes on the whim of nature too.

Well, if science can explain it, its in the realm of possibility. Whats possible from a scientific standpoint =/= whats possible from a current technological standpoint.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
And technically its not even defying gravity, its just getting around it, taking advantage of it, or just pushing through it

That is defying it 🙂

Wow, I actually said that...

Now why did I say that?

I disagree with this definition of defying. It wimply works within the laws of physics, gravity uncluded, to induce lift through lessening the air pressure above and increasing the air pressure below with it's unique wing shape. o_O Without gravity this is impossible.

I still say Demetri stomps this guy...

Originally posted by Rapidash
That is defying it 🙂

And:

Originally posted by Overdose
I still say Demetri stomps this guy...

You can say what you like but if you cannot debate it and if you dont know much about either characters then its not much good to this thread.

You're still wrong BT.