Originally posted by roughriderLogan did fight Hercules once in a bar, but Herc laughed him off as an annoyance. They only stopped when they realized all the women were leaving. 😛
Originally posted by willRules
Isn't Hercules roughly Thor's level??? That sounds like Spider-man vs Firelord kinda writing......
Battlehammer, you know a great deal about Wolverine. Sure I read his comics, and have almost his entire run, but I never really enjoyed the character.
Perhaps you can answer this for me. What's to stop someone like say Hercules from ripping Wolverine's head off or ripping him in half?
Yes his skeleton is laced with Adamantium, but not what's between the vertebrates or he wouldn't have any mobility at all. He is tougher than a human but such thin tissue shouldn't really matter.
What's to stop someone like Hercules from picking him up and simply ripping him in half besides Wolverine being well Wolverine?
Originally posted by willRules
I'm not convinced. I've read some Herc stuff and he seems way out of Logan's league....
Hercules is a brick, Logan an anti brick. He designed to go Toe to Toe with a guy like herc. Hell Logan down better vs similar opponents then herc such as thing.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Battlehammer, you know a great deal about Wolverine. Sure I read his comics, and have almost his entire run, but I never really enjoyed the character.Perhaps you can answer this for me. What's to stop someone like say Hercules from ripping Wolverine's head off or ripping him in half?
Yes his skeleton is laced with Adamantium, but not what's between the vertebrates or he wouldn't have any mobility at all. He is tougher than a human but such thin tissue shouldn't really matter.
What's to stop someone like Hercules from picking him up and simply ripping him in half besides Wolverine being well Wolverine?
Logan adamatium is connected, and yes this is a fact. It been potrayed as such countless times, and the Hulk and ba'al have been unable to ripp him apart due to this.
Also whats to stop wolverine stabbing herc in the head or cutting of limbs?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Really based on what? Now I am referring to mortal herc, not immortal hercules.Hercules is a brick, Logan an anti brick. He designed to go Toe to Toe with a guy like herc. Hell Logan down better vs similar opponents then herc such as thing.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Really based on what? Now I am referring to mortal herc, not immortal hercules.Hercules is a brick, Logan an anti brick. He designed to go Toe to Toe with a guy like herc. Hell Logan down better vs similar opponents then herc such as thing.
Well I didn't know there was a distinction between mortal and immortal Herc. I don't know enough about the character. I'm talking about Herc, the Avenger who hangs around with Amadeus Cho.
I'm not trying to turn this into a Wolverine vs whoever debate, but I always assumed that Herc being a Greek God, was roughly around Thor's level. Pretty evenly matched with Hulk, could go either way, superior to Thing, superior to Wolvie.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
thanks.Logan adamatium is connected, and yes this is a fact. It been potrayed as such countless times, and the Hulk and ba'al have been unable to ripp him apart due to this.
Also whats to stop wolverine stabbing herc in the head or cutting of limbs?
Connected in what sense? His bones are laced with Adamantium, but not the tissue between his vertebrates. It's how the spine is build.
Anyone with a certain level of above average strength, should be able to rip Wolverine in half. It would be harder than a normal human as Wolverine has enhanced durability but not by much. Someone like even Ares should be able to effortlessly pick him up by his wrists and say rip his arms out of their sockets and so on. The Adamantium bones aren't melded together or he would have the mobility of an action figure.
Are we talking about mortal Hercules? He could rip his arms out of their sockets. Anyways I'm not trying to turn this into a versus fight where we come up with scenarios for the characters to win. So lets leave the what ifs out of this.
I'm just wondering as to what would stop someone from ripping him in half, or ripping his head off.
Originally posted by willRules
Well I didn't know there was a distinction between mortal and immortal Herc. I don't know enough about the character. I'm talking about Herc, the Avenger who hangs around with Amadeus Cho.I'm not trying to turn this into a Wolverine vs whoever debate, but I always assumed that Herc being a Greek God, was roughly around Thor's level. Pretty evenly matched with Hulk, could go either way, superior to Thing, superior to Wolvie.
Yes there a differences, immortal herc is good deal more powerful and harder to put down.
Just because someone is a god does not mean there thor level. god just a title it means nothing. Ares is a god and is nothign special he class 70 who not even bullet proof.
WWH thrash herc, hell wolverine did beter then herc did. Why he superior to wolverine? becuases he superior to thing a man wolverine beaten even faster and more handily then herc has? Even if he was better, does not mean wolverine can't go toe to toe with him or beat him for that matter.
Herc not thor level that miss conception based on there fights in which thor uses zero super speed or his versatility.
The problem with Hercules is that writers never portray him on Thor's level, at least not consistently. In their fights, they might stalemate, but outside of that, Hercules has had his ass whopped by what Thor has easily shrugged off.
Oh by the way, Hercules let World War Hulk pound on him. Still, that fight was really ridiculous. 4 blows and he was a pulp and supposedly his Thor's equal in strength? Lulz.
He also had Ares stalemate Hercules? Lulz again.
I don't want Greg Pak coming anywhere near Thor or the other pantheons. Ever.
He doesn't know what the hell his doing.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Yes there a differences, immortal herc is good deal more powerful and harder to put down.Just because someone is a god does not mean there thor level. god just a title it means nothing. Ares is a god and is nothign special he class 70 who not even bullet proof.
WWH thrash herc, hell wolverine did beter then herc did. Why he superior to wolverine? becuases he superior to thing a man wolverine beaten even faster and more handily then herc has? Even if he was better, does not mean wolverine can't go toe to toe with him or beat him for that matter.
Herc not thor level that miss conception based on there fights in which thor uses zero super speed or his versatility.
Right, thanks for the clarification.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Connected in what sense? His bones are laced with Adamantium, but not the tissue between his vertebrates. It's how the spine is build.Anyone with a certain level of above average strength, should be able to rip Wolverine in half. It would be harder than a normal human as Wolverine has enhanced durability but not by much. Someone like even Ares should be able to effortlessly pick him up by his wrists and say rip his arms out of their sockets and so on. The Adamantium bones aren't melded together or he would have the mobility of an action figure.
Are we talking about mortal Hercules? He could rip his arms out of their sockets. Anyways I'm not trying to turn this into a versus fight where we come up with scenarios for the characters to win. So lets leave the what ifs out of this.
I'm just wondering as to what would stop someone from ripping him in half, or ripping his head off.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
ur welcome though i sense sarcasm but could be wrong
Nope, not sarcastic at all. I remain unconvinced Logan would win (even though I prefer him as a character) but appreciate the info nonetheless.
EDIT: Logan is preferrable as a comic character but the actual Heracles from Greek Myth has been one of the most interesting characters for me since an early age.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
go look at the respect thread it fact his bones are connect they can't be seperated this is based off countless on pannel depictions i post scans but im one handed at the moment i jst had surgery on my hand
Oh really? That sucks. You okay now man?
I'll go check it out. Just wondering connected in what sense. Are the vertebrates stuck together? Because that really doesn't make any sense. At all. I always assumed his skeleton was human like. More durable and he has his claws, but still human based from everything I have seen. I've seen his skeleton before, and it looks just like a humans except the claws and so on.
Any particular instances that come to mind? His respect thread is very large.
Just saw the Ba'al scan. I remember it, but it was stated that Wolverine has an Adamantium skeleton. Of course it would be harder to rip him apart as he is more durable, and if he tried to rip him apart in that direction, he wouldn't be able to as that would involve breaking/bending Adamantium. At best at that angle, Ba'al would be capable of ripping his arms out of their sockets.
So far I haven't seen anything that explain why Wolverine cannot be ripped apart. Not in the way that, involves breaking his tissue and not his bones.
This is a spine.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Gray_111_-_Vertebral_column.png
The bones aren't linked together directly, and posses tissue and so on in between.
Anywhen who pickes him from head to feet, should be able to rip him in half ala "Ultimate Wolverine vs. Ultimate Hulk". It has nothing to do with him having an Adamantium skeleton.
It's just something that's always interested me.
