Magneto/Gladiator vs Vulcan/Sentry

Started by Peterlane9 pages

Originally posted by Blanket
Mayhaps, I don't remember what came first anyway.

All I know is that same current Glads was beating up Darkhawk, and is now awarded the scepter.

And current Glads is not before he was awarded the scepter like you said earlier.

Current Glads picked the scepter up he wasn't awarded it at all stop lying

He didnt beat up Darkhawk at all, all he did was pick him up and DH escaped

Originally posted by Peterlane
It proves Current Gladiator is not confident, he is a broken MESS.
Sentry can beat him 10/10 now.

And Darkhawk only got picked up by Gladiator stop lying.

While being worshiped. Your point was he is not confident... I'm sure a little cock stroking will make him so.

Also, you want to talk about broken messes? With Sentry in the thread? The guy is now Norman's lapdog who questions everything he himself does...

Originally posted by Peterlane
Current Glads picked the scepter up he wasn't awarded it at all stop lying

He didnt beat up Darkhawk at all, all he did was pick him up and DH escaped

He was awarded the honor that the scepter holds. And he wasn't going to keep it anyway.

As for your Darkhawk thing... not much, but it's not nothing either.
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Darkhawk got saved, as well as a choke against his will is better than a choke when he's asking to be killed, btw. 🙂

He's confident enough to still think he can kill people in one shot.

Originally posted by Blanket
While being worshiped. Your point was he is not confident... I'm sure a little cock stroking will make him so.

Also, you want to talk about broken messes? With Sentry in the thread? The guy is now Norman's lapdog who questions everything he himself does...

He was awarded the honor that the scepter holds. And he wasn't going to keep it anyway.

As for your Darkhawk thing... not much, but it's not nothing either.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/x-men/War-of-Kings---Ascension-04-pg--03.jpg
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Darkhawk got saved, as well as a choke against his will is better than a choke when he's asking to be killed, btw. 🙂

He's confident enough to still think he can kill people in one shot.

Unlike Gladiator Sentry's powers arent really based on confidence. He rapes Current Gladiator while crying about how his wife who is still alive is really dead.

Just because he is angry means he is confident as witnessed in the Black Cloak fight. Confident gladiator would absolutely destroy BC with absolutely no effort.

Current Gladiator loses to Sentry and Vulcan and Sentry together could beat Magneto.

Prove Gladiator wasn't going to keep the sceptre. he loves the Shiar to death and now seeing them leader less and in ruins would want to steer them in the right direction, kindoff like Ronan the Accuser

Originally posted by Peterlane
Unlike Gladiator Sentry's powers arent really based on confidence. He rapes Current Gladiator while crying about how his wife who is still alive is really dead.

Just because he is angry means he is confident as witnessed in the Black Cloak fight. Confident gladiator would absolutely destroy BC with absolutely no effort.

Current Gladiator loses to Sentry and Vulcan and Sentry together could beat Magneto.

But his view is now completely fudged up about his powers, and how he controls them, due to Norman. He questions what he does, he questions how he does it...
I mean, if we're really going to factor this in...

I never said just because he's angry, I said because he still thinks he can destroy people in one shot... IE. Darkhawk scenario.
In the Black Cloak fight, he wasn't even thinking properly, and again, Sentry doesn't carry a giant knife, nor have the advantage of Gladiator being so mad he goes into a blind rage.
Again, Gladiator is now the Majestor...

Even thinking along your lines, how in the hell does Sentry defeat Gladiator before Magneto takes out 'I wear a metal suit' Vulcan?

Proof Shiar Death commandoes are telepathically cloaked

Originally posted by Peterlane
Proof Shiar Death commandoes are telepathically cloaked
wat.

I already talked about this, and cloaked doesn't = protected... it just means they fly under the radar. If a telepath sees them, they can read their mind...
Hell, it doesn't even say that in the scan either.

😂

BC didn't beat Gladiator because of a spear. Terrax had an axe and it didnt stop him being pwned by Sentry.

BC only stabbed him once, the other times he overpowered Gladiator and hit him with the base of the spear.

Sentry>>>>>Current Gladiator.

Ok Vulcan got crushed by Polaris also but he still had enough power to kill her, she was lucky Havok took the brunt of it, and it still almost killed him. If magneto doesn't crush Vulcan straight away Vulcan could beat him, if not he dies and Sentry kills Magneto.

Team 2 wins

Originally posted by Blanket
wat.

I already talked about this, and cloaked doesn't = protected... it just means they fly under the radar. If a telepath sees them, they can read their mind...
Hell, it doesn't even say that in the scan either.

😂

She is a COMBAT-TRAINED TELEPATH OF THE HIGHEST ORDER and still couldn't SENSE THEY WERE THERE.

Originally posted by Peterlane
BC didn't beat Gladiator because of a spear. Terrax had an axe and it didnt stop him being pwned by Sentry.

BC only stabbed him once, the other times he overpowered Gladiator and hit him with the base of the spear.

Sentry>>>>>Current Gladiator.

Ok Vulcan got crushed by Polaris also but he still had enough power to kill her, she was lucky Havok took the brunt of it, and it still almost killed him. If magneto doesn't crush Vulcan straight away Vulcan could beat him, if not he dies and Sentry kills Magneto.

Team 2 wins

Sentry wasn't fighting like an idiot... and I see no relevance of bringing that up anyway... Gladiator is fighting Sentry, not Terrax, or Black Cloak.

But that's when Gladiator started 'losing'. 😐
The other times? There was one hit in the fight from Black Cloak before then...

uh... huh...

Good thing Magneto>>>>>Polaris in every single way then.
If not, Magneto/Glads team up on Sentry you mean? Because there's no way Sentry takes out Glads before Mags takes out metal suit.

No.

Originally posted by Blanket
Sentry wasn't fighting like an idiot... and I see no relevance of bringing that up anyway... Gladiator is fighting Sentry, not Terrax, or Black Cloak.

But that's when Gladiator started 'losing'. 😐
The other times? There was one hit in the fight from Black Cloak before then...

uh... huh...

Good thing Magneto>>>>>Polaris in every single way then.
If not, Magneto/Glads team up on Sentry you mean? Because there's no way Sentry takes out Glads before Mags takes out metal suit.

No.

What is Gladiator in his current pathetic state going to do to The Sentry? He's going to get one shotted thats for sure. Gladiator did not hit BC once i their fight. Rachel Grey DEPOWERED had to save him and then he killed some fodder

And the Magneto>>>>>Polaris doesn't really hold anymore, because Polaris's powers have been elevated to unexplained levels. Magneto repowered is probably still > Polaris because of his experience.

Also we don't know if Vulcan's new gear is metal, it certainly wasn't affected by Polaris in Kingbreaker, because he one shotted her with a punch.

Originally posted by Peterlane
She is a COMBAT-TRAINED TELEPATH OF THE HIGHEST ORDER and still couldn't SENSE THEY WERE THERE.
Complete misquote much?

It says she should have seen that coming. It doesn't say they cloaked from her, it doesn't say anything about that. It basically says they 'surprised' her.

Also, a cloaking would work because you don't know anyone's there... if you're looking right at them when they're fighting someone, it's kind of irrelevant.

As is the point of trying to prove they are theoretically immune to TP.

Originally posted by Blanket
Complete misquote much?

It says she should have seen that coming. It doesn't say they cloaked from her, it doesn't say anything about that. It basically says they 'surprised' her.

Also, a cloaking would work because you don't know anyone's there... if you're looking right at them when they're fighting someone, it's kind of irrelevant.

As is the point of trying to prove they are theoretically immune to TP.

How is that a mis-quote. Rachel is constantly reading the thoughts of everyone around her. She would have picked up new thoughts if they were not immune to TP. The fact that latter on in the fight Rachel resorted to use TK to beat them shows that they are immune to TP. If not she could have ended it in a second

Originally posted by Peterlane
What is Gladiator in his current pathetic state going to do to The Sentry? He's going to get one shotted thats for sure. Gladiator did not hit BC once i their fight. Rachel Grey DEPOWERED had to save him and then he killed some fodder

And the Magneto>>>>>Polaris doesn't really hold anymore, because Polaris's powers have been elevated to unexplained levels. Magneto repowered is probably still > Polaris because of his experience.

Also we don't know if Vulcan's new gear is metal, it certainly wasn't affected by Polaris in Kingbreaker, because he one shotted her with a punch.

He's going to get one shotted? Because of one low showing, where he wasn't even KO'ed?
I never said Gladiator hit him actually... learn to read. On that note, he definitely swung at BC.
Rachel Grey CHEAPSHOTTED BC with powers Gladiator DOESN'T HAVE.

Right, because Polaris has shown anywhere near the power Magneto has displayed. I like how you admit that Magneto is above her though... then you have to add in things like durability

His suit certainly looks metal.
Polaris was super drugged up, and also managed to surprise Vulcan.

Originally posted by Blanket
He's going to get one shotted? Because of one low showing, where he wasn't even KO'ed?
I never said Gladiator hit him actually... learn to read. On that note, he definitely swung at BC.
Rachel Grey CHEAPSHOTTED BC with powers Gladiator DOESN'T HAVE.

Right, because Polaris has shown anywhere near the power Magneto has displayed. I like how you admit that Magneto is above her though... then you have to add in things like durability

His suit certainly looks metal.
Polaris was super drugged up, and also managed to surprise Vulcan.

His suit was not affected by the Magentism

Vulcan then realized his powers wont get through her field sans Magneto then he one shots her like he would do to Magneto.
She was also drugged up to dampen her powers but they wore off
It's not my fault CURRENT Gladiator is unconfident, which results in bad showings.

Originally posted by Peterlane
How is that a mis-quote. Rachel is constantly reading the thoughts of everyone around her. She would have picked up new thoughts if they were not immune to TP. The fact that latter on in the fight Rachel resorted to use TK to beat them shows that they are immune to TP. If not she could have ended it in a second
Because you misquoted the quote. 😐

No she isn't. She had to focus in on Darkhawk just to tell he was in the vicinity... she might pick up some thoughts here and there, but she's not constantly reading the thoughts of everyone around her.

How does that prove anything? If Gladiator HV's an opponent, does that mean he's immune to physical damage? No. It's just a way of a writer making a fight out of well... a fight. Just because a power isn't used, it doesn't mean it won't work, it just means the power isn't being used.

As well as you not understanding the point... even if you're right, she used powers that Gladiator DOESN'T have, on an unsuspecting opponent.

Originally posted by Blanket
Because you misquoted the quote. 😐

No she isn't. She had to focus in on Darkhawk just to tell he was in the vicinity... she might pick up some thoughts here and there, but she's not constantly reading the thoughts of everyone around her.

How does that prove anything? If Gladiator HV's an opponent, does that mean he's immune to physical damage? No. It's just a way of a writer making a fight out of well... a fight. Just because a power isn't used, it doesn't mean it won't work, it just means the power isn't being used.

As well as you not understanding the point... even if you're right, she used powers that Gladiator DOESN'T have, on an unsuspecting opponent.

That was when she was DEPOWERED. Don't bring up feats of a depowered Rachel and compare them to when she was stronger.

Gladiator got beat by BH because of his fragile psyche. If he was confident he would have pimpslapped him into orbit

Originally posted by Peterlane
His suit was not affected by the Magentism

Vulcan then realized his powers wont get through her field sans Magneto then he one shots her like he would do to Magneto.
She was also drugged up to dampen her powers but they wore off
It's not my fault CURRENT Gladiator is unconfident, which results in bad showings.

She was severely drugged, and looked to me she was trying to blast him...

Did you just say Vulcan walks through Magneto's fields and one shots Magneto? 😂

They wore off? Looked more like she was fighting the drugs...

Are you trolling on purpose, or by accident?
It wouldn't be, but it's your fault you're ignoring everything said/shown in favor of one moment where he was in a blind rage.

Originally posted by Blanket
She was severely drugged, and looked to me she was trying to blast him...

Did you just say Vulcan walks through Magneto's fields and one shots Magneto? 😂

They wore off? Looked more like she was fighting the drugs...

Are you trolling on purpose, or by accident?
It wouldn't be, but it's your fault you're ignoring everything said/shown in favor of one moment where he was in a blind rage.

She was easily burning out the drugs, they only had temporary effect.

You are ignoring everything shown. You ignore the fact that Current Gladiator is MUCH weaker and can be dealt with by the likes of Sentry and Vulcan

Magneto is the heavy hitter on team 1 and he can also lose more times than win.

And yes Vulcan could potentially walk through Magneto's sheild, it looks like he rippd Polaris' sheild by using his energy manipulation.

Since his new suit is not metal like I just proved to you, he flys and uses his energy manupilation to break through Magneto's sheild one shotting him. Sentry then takes care of Gladiator who is feeling down because of Lilandra's death and the fall of his beloved empire

Originally posted by Peterlane
That was when she was DEPOWERED. Don't bring up feats of a depowered Rachel and compare them to when she was stronger.

Gladiator got beat by BH because of his fragile psyche. If he was confident he would have pimpslapped him into orbit

I'm just saying that's not how her power works. She got surprised... that's it.

*insert facepalm*
Not only does that have nothing to do with my post, but it also was because he was fighting like an idiot, and because he had a giant knife that Sentry doesn't have the advantage of either of in this thread.
Like I've said again, and again.