i dont believe it has anthing to do with the amount of force applied to juggernaut 😉. it is no different of a protection spell that odin applies to uru to make thors hammer. or the asgardian destroyer. odin enchanted the thing, and still feared it to a degree. he knew what it was capable of. cyttoraks enchantment just protects the juggernaut physically. you arent gonna defeat him that way 😉
There are beings that could kill Cyttorak with physical powers (even if that are only very powerful cosmic beings, there are), let alone Cain, who has only some of his powers. Juggernaut is overrated, when it comes to him and general durability, like nothing can hurt him physically.
War Hulk was on a good way to decimate him. Herald level won't KO him or kill him with brute force or even above that level, but there are who could kill him with brute force extremely extremely easily.
Imagine Celestial not having strength to kill him. Yeah right.
Originally posted by Xplosive
There are beings that could kill Cyttorak with physical powers (even if that are only very powerful cosmic beings, there are), let alone Cain, who has only some of his powers. Juggernaut is overrated, when it comes to him and general durability, like nothing can hurt him physically.
War Hulk was on a good way to decimate him. Herald level won't KO him or kill him with brute force or even above that level, but there are who could kill him with brute force extremely extremely easily.Imagine Celestial not having strength to kill him. Yeah right.
War Hulk didn't hurt him at all.
Originally posted by carver9
Cytorrak is physical perfection. He has no limits to his durability or strength, he was true invulnerability. A Celestial should be able to over power him with power outpu but damaging him, or physically taking him down, its aint happening.
Yeah right. A true invulnerability. No one has true invulnerability. Nor is Living Tribunal physical perfection and Cyttorak is joke to him and Cyttorak will be physical perfection. Yeah right. No one was physical perfection. Not even Protege.
Originally posted by carver9
As for juggernaut, koing him or damaging him, if its not embed in magic its not damaging him.
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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
War Hulk didn't hurt him at all.
It seems he was on a good way. Didn't even he went through his shield.
Anyway, even if not, there are beings above Cyttorak, some of them much above. Juggernaut could be killed with brute force extremely easily by some beings.
Juggernaut is very very overrated when it comes to this (when TS say generally is there someone that could...). He is very durable, but Cain himself hasn't met with such level of cosmic hood.
Can fully powered Galactus be killed by that and that...? Let's say no, but that doesn't mean, not even close, far and far from it, that Silver Surfer can't be.
Originally posted by Xplosive
It seems he was on a good way. Didn't even he went through his shield.
Anyway, even if not, there are beings above Cyttorak, some of them much above. Juggernaut could be killed with brute force extremely easily by some beings.Juggernaut is very very overrated when it comes to this (when TS say generally is there someone that could...). He is very durable, but Cain himself hasn't met with such level of cosmic hood.
Can fully powered Galactus be killed by that and that...? Let's say no, but that doesn't mean, not even close, far and far from it, that Silver Surfer can't be.
Where did Cain have his forcefield on during that fight?
I think you missed the part where a lot of us said that anyone above Cyttorak can hurt him. However if we want to gauge his cosmic durability then he has been cast into Oblivion and came back to life.
Originally posted by KingD19
Well, that's f***in TILDY MAN!!!! She made a pure energy, psionic, 500 foot tall monster. I can give that to her, but anything short of that no. Besides, WATXM isn't canon to the comics.Same thing in X-Men Evo, Rogue's powers worked on Colossus while he was in his steel form, it doesn't work that way in the comics.
I thought her powers worked against Colossus when Avalanche and Pyro downed him.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Ha. At the top of the cover it says that it's based on the animated series. 😄
Originally posted by KillAll
also, onlsaught was never seen on panel physically ko'ing juggernaut. the only interaction they had was when onslaught was holding juggernaut like a play toy. even then juggernaut didnt have his helmet, and onslaughts phsychic mist manifested he was already warping juggernauts perception. the other incident is COMPLETELY off panel and you have no way to prove or disprove what had happened up to the point of juggernaut landing in front of beast and bishop?.
Does anyone with an Onslaught timeline know if this happened before or after Onslaught/Prof X learned how to physically manifest his psionic presense, thanks to Nate Grey yanking Prof X out of the astral plane?
Originally posted by lft4dedJuggernaut landed in front of beast and bishop and was the first time that in the comics we even heard the name onslaught.
Ha. At the top of the cover it says that it's based on the animated series. 😄Does anyone with an Onslaught timeline know if this happened before or after Onslaught/Prof X learned how to physically manifest his psionic presense, thanks to Nate Grey yanking Prof X out of the astral plane?
Originally posted by Xplosive
It seems he was on a good way. Didn't even he went through his shield.
Anyway, even if not, there are beings above Cyttorak, some of them much above. Juggernaut could be killed with brute force extremely easily by some beings.Juggernaut is very very overrated when it comes to this (when TS say generally is there someone that could...). He is very durable, but Cain himself hasn't met with such level of cosmic hood.
Can fully powered Galactus be killed by that and that...? Let's say no, but that doesn't mean, not even close, far and far from it, that Silver Surfer can't be.
What? This make almost no sense. Juggernaut has met cosmics before (the Stranger, Oblivion). He did well against the Stranger and Oblivion got sick of him and kicked him out.