Originally posted by BattlehammerYah, and he'd heal during that time too, since he's got a healing factor.
I would think not, but he could be a pain sinces he can fly, so even if injuried he could fly away and wait untill the odds favored him.
I dunno if he stops at Hawkman, but it's definately where he really starts to slow down.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Nah, Hawkman stops him, especially since these guys enter as soon as the former are in trouble, so likely Cage and Black Knight are still around.I'd probably give Hawkman the win, or at least say he draws even, even without the other two though.
Also Luke kinda the worst person to fight wolverine, he the type of guy wolverien was built to fight ecpt he vast weaker.
Originally posted by BattlehammerVaries like all healing factors, but his nth metal seems to give him a great bit of durability to go along with it. All of his stats are pretty much much enhanced.
I agree, how good is hawkman healing factor?
Originally posted by Juntai
Varies like all healing factors, but his nth metal seems to give him a great bit of durability to go along with it. All of his stats are pretty much much enhanced.
without looking if I'm remembering right, Slade gave him a good slash during the fight in Identity Crisis, and it left a slash across his chest, but was gone a couple panels later.
I don't collect Hawkman though, so I mostly have crossovers, appearances and JSA to go from.
nice, I think it kinda at wolverine old levels, good enough to take a few slashes and keep fighting, but after a while it can be taxed. Though i could be wrong.
Originally posted by BattlehammerEven if they just serve as momentary distractions, it still helps.
Black Knight beign around is doubtful, also it depends what trouble means, im pretty sure if Logan had BK in trouble BK be dead before Luke Cage got to him.Also Luke kinda the worst person to fight wolverine, he the type of guy wolverien was built to fight ecpt he vast weaker.
I reckon Hawkman takes him.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Even if they just serve as momentary distractions, it still helps.I reckon Hawkman takes him.
Originally posted by BattlehammerNot how it works. As soon as Wolverine gains any advantage, the next guy appears. So as soon as Logan gets within a foot of either of these guys and parry's a blow, or when his claws get close, the next guy is there. Meaning even if Logan kills them shortly afterwards, that still gives Hawkman time to hit from behind.
who? BK? Here the thing neighter BK or Luke Cage will make it long enough alive to be there when HawlkMan shows up.
It's really trivial though, because Hawkman would equal with Wolverine anyways, so when Wolverine kills Joker and Logan has to deal with Hawkman and Quicksilver, it's probably over.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
People are selling Black Knight short here. The Ebony Blade cannot be broken by Wolverines Adamantium. They have fought before and neither had the edge. BK aint no Bytch!!!
What he said.
BK has the potential to solo, especially with the Ebony Blade. That thing knocked goddamn Odin on his ass. BK dependings largely on his incarnation, however. Vibro-blade BK loses. Ebony Blade or White-Pegasus-Riding one wins. Also, Mungi really needs to come in here and start chopping heads off. Hawkman wins 1-v-1 as well most times as well, imo. Dude heals every bit as fast as Logan (or nearly so), Nth metal would definitely f-- Logan up, and his base stats are leagues beyond Logan's, into the Iron Man range.
So yes, Quicksilver would end it, as most have been saying. But it would be over well before that. I say he occasionally stops at 3, and definitely stops at 5.
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Originally posted by BattlehammerCharacters are not limited to their standard gear if the OP specifies that they may have gear beyond the normal.
But just becuases he has his equiptment does not make it all standard.
Originally posted by BattlehammerIrrelevant. If he's given his new arsenal he has it. period, end of statement. His "standard" equipment is irrelevant if the OP specifies he gets something else..
Just like Punisher classic standard equiptment does not mean he has a rocket launcher. His new arsenal has many things he does not career around unless he has prep, such as pym mask.
Originally posted by Digi
What he said.BK has the potential to solo, especially with the Ebony Blade. That thing knocked goddamn Odin on his ass. BK dependings largely on his incarnation, however. Vibro-blade BK loses. Ebony Blade or White-Pegasus-Riding one wins. Also, Mungi really needs to come in here and start chopping heads off. Hawkman wins 1-v-1 as well most times as well, imo. Dude heals every bit as fast as Logan (or nearly so), Nth metal would definitely f-- Logan up, and his base stats are leagues beyond Logan's, into the Iron Man range.
So yes, Quicksilver would end it, as most have been saying. But it would be over well before that. I say he occasionally stops at 3, and definitely stops at 5.
you could be right about BK--i did a bk vs logan thread a long time ago and said BK could take some. he has the EB in this, but even with that he was only able to hold his own against logan. logan DOES have the far superior speed feats, higher base stats and in this setting the OPENING MOVE. i think given all those things, BK would go down. i see it as possible though he might be able to partially dodge the opening attack and MAYBE be alive for when the next person comes in. without a healing factor either it is hard to say how injured he might be though.
i've always liked BK (most especially the late 90's avengers-leader take on him . . .)
as for whether or not logan takes carter in straight 1on1. i think it's pretty close . . . here again though that first attack is all-important for logan. could carter sense where he's coming from, react and dodge in time to avoid being seriously harmed or having his wings clipped? not sure, but a definite maybe.
haven't seen anyone think he passes QS regardless though.
Originally posted by leonidas
you could be right about BK--i did a bk vs logan thread a long time ago and said BK could take some. he has the EB in this, but even with that he was only able to hold his own against logan. logan DOES have the far superior speed feats, higher base stats and in this setting the OPENING MOVE. i think given all those things, BK would go down. i see it as possible though he might be able to partially dodge the opening attack and MAYBE be alive for when the next person comes in. without a healing factor either it is hard to say how injured he might be though.i've always liked BK (most especially the late 90's avengers-leader take on him . . .)
as for whether or not logan takes carter in straight 1on1. i think it's pretty close . . . here again though that first attack is all-important for logan. could carter sense where he's coming from, react and dodge in time to avoid being seriously harmed or having his wings clipped? not sure, but a definite maybe.
haven't seen anyone think he passes QS regardless though.
I think Logan could get a free stab, and Carter would still take the majority. You have a point with BK, but that's also why I said he would only stop there occasionally.
Originally posted by Digi
BK has the potential to solo, especially with the Ebony Blade. That thing knocked goddamn Odin on his ass. BK dependings largely on his incarnation, however. Vibro-blade BK loses. Ebony Blade or White-Pegasus-Riding one wins.
Saying BK solo this is vastly underrating wolverine. Ebony Blades abilities are not going to be of any uses in a fight vs wolverine. His blade can adsorb energy attacks which wolverine does not uses, it can cut through almost any object (except it can’t cut there wolverine adamtium as seen on panel) and it can cut through energy shields which wolverine does not uses. None of this is anything that should give wolverine problems at all let a lone give BK the ability to solo Wolverine. He inferior fighter in skill, he has inferior physical stats, he less experienced and his Blade can’t due any more damage to wolverine then a normal Blade would. So I am a little confused how you came to a conclusion that BK solo wolverine, or even takes wins from an adversary who his superior in ever senses.
Originally posted by Digi
. Dude heals every bit as fast as Logan (or nearly so), Nth metal would definitely f-- Logan up, and his base stats are leagues beyond Logan's, into the Iron Man range.
His stats are Iron Man level? Are you sure? I like to see some speed feats, strength feats ect, because from what I have seen that is far from the cases, last I checked his best lifting feat was ripping the back of a small plane roof off.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
This is current BK unless other wises stated.Saying BK solo this is vastly underrating wolverine. Ebony Blades abilities are not going to be of any uses in a fight vs wolverine. His blade can adsorb energy attacks which wolverine does not uses, it can cut through almost any object (except it can’t cut there wolverine adamtium as seen on panel) and it can cut through energy shields which wolverine does not uses. None of this is anything that should give wolverine problems at all let a lone give BK the ability to solo Wolverine. He inferior fighter in skill, he has inferior physical stats, he less experienced and his Blade can’t due any more damage to wolverine then a normal Blade would. So I am a little confused how you came to a conclusion that BK solo wolverine, or even takes wins from an adversary who his superior in ever senses.
I don't know what current BK is up to, so I had to qualify my post with the incarnation stipulation. The White-Knight version could absorb and redirect kinetic energy as well, which was one of the incarnations I mentioned that would win easily. As it is, the encounter that seems to be popping up in a lot of posts in this thread has them stalemating, which seems about right. If either of the first two opponents survive, it might be enough for a few wins against Logan, though certainly not in all of them.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I wanna see some proof. I highly doubt his healing is at wolverine level, and I am pretty sure his feats do not suggest this, from what I have seen.His stats are Iron Man level? Are you sure? I like to see some speed feats, strength feats ect, because from what I have seen that is far from the cases, last I checked his best lifting feat was ripping the back of a small plane roof off.
...which is still above Logan's strength. But I digress.
I said his healing was nearly as good as Logan's, and that Nth metal would f--- Wolverine up, and that his base stats were High Meta (I was using Iron Man as a benchmark, not a direct comparison). All of those things are pretty general knowledge about the character. I'm not making any stretches by saying those things. I'd rather not spam the thread with entire posts from Mungi's excellent respect thread, so I'd encourage you to learn about the character.
Off the top of my head, he almost had his arm cut off entirely once, was ok to fight in seconds, and was completely healed in minutes. He has various strength feats in the high meta range, and battles against those who would be considered in the herald category (but no, not the Superman fight...that was with the Claw of Horus). And while it's trite in comics, he can and has dodged bullet fire repeatedly. Nth metal's also a b*tch. It doesn't need to break adamantium in order to pound Logan senseless, which a few ground-strikes followed by a speedblitz would accomplish handily. There's likely more I'm forgetting, but it's not hard to see the point.
Originally posted by Digi
I don't know what current BK is up to, so I had to qualify my post with the incarnation stipulation. The White-Knight version could absorb and redirect kinetic energy as well, which was one of the incarnations I mentioned that would win easily.
He could do that with energy attacks, how would that help him with wolverine? He beat wolverine easily? Whata re you basing this off of? BK is inferior in every senses, how is he supposes to beat some one who better them in in every area, let a lone easily? Seems like your vastly underrating wolverine here.
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Originally posted by Digi
..which is still above Logan's strength. But I digress.
Looking at the thread there was only one feat of strength that was beyond wolverines strength and it was well beyond anything elese shown in his respect thread as well and that was lifting some huge ass monster.
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Originally posted by Digi
..I said his healing was nearly as good as Logan's, and that Nth metal would f--- Wolverine up, and that his base stats were High Meta (I was using Iron Man as a benchmark, not a direct comparison). All of those things are pretty general knowledge about the character. I'm not making any stretches by saying those things. I'd rather not spam the thread with entire posts from Mungi's excellent respect thread, so I'd encourage you to learn about the character. Off the top of my head, he almost had his arm cut off entirely once, was ok to fight in seconds
Originally posted by Digi
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He has various strength feats in the high meta range, and battles against those who would be considered in the herald category (but no, not the Superman fight...that was with the Claw of Horus). And while it's trite in comics, he can and has dodged bullet fire repeatedly. Nth metal's also a b*tch. It doesn't need to break adamantium in order to pound Logan senseless, which a few ground-strikes followed by a speedblitz would accomplish handily. There's likely more I'm forgetting, but it's not hard to see the point.
I look at his feats nothing I saw showed combat speed, reflexes, agility beyond wolverine level. Unless you can provide some evidence I going to have to disagree with your assement. Leo, juntia many other said they believe they are around equals and from what I saw in the respect thread that seem pretty accurate. I more then willing to admit I am wrong if you rpovide evidences showing so. Also if you please show reflex speed, combat speed, agility ect, beyond wolverines own which makes you believe it be so one sided, please don’t show him fighting some uber guy, because wolverine,capt, spiderman have all hung with people vastly superior to them before.
Nothing I saw suggested his combat speed is enough to blitz wolverine