Submariner vs Colossus

Started by snoopdogg11 pages

Originally posted by KingD19
Didn't he also punch his way through an underground mountain of impregnable rock, eventually making his way to the surface?
Yea, Colossus was trapped behind billions of tons of impenetrable rock as it was described. He was punching his way out.

Namor has not only lost to Hulk, he is beneath him in every aspect. Except an agility advantage in water.

Doesn't make a difference. Colossus is not nearly as powerful as Namor. Colossus is able to knock Hulk around purely because Hulk only weighs a ton, and Colossus can lift much more than that. So while Hulk might sometimes fly about when Colossus decks him, Hulk's otherwise unharmed. A scrape or two that heals instantly. Colossus is in the same boat as Thing when VS Hulk. They hang because of their durability, and they don't cause Hulk enough grief for him to get mad enough and therefore strong enough to kill them. But with WWHulk, I think we all saw a legitimate showing of Hulk angry and not f*cking around. One-shots Thing. One-shots(so to speak) Colossus. So Namor's and Colossus' showings against Hulk have nothing to do with Namor vs Colossus.

Namor 10/10 against Pete or Ben.

Originally posted by KingD19
I will say this, let's just hope Namor doesn't do his Imperius Rex punch. It's like the Bat Kick, Master Blow, and the Iron Fist all in one.

😂

QFT.

And profiled.

Here is the scan of Colossus holding up the ceiling of a base 100 meters underground with the added weight of a series of massive avalanches:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/ColossusavalancheMFF3.jpg

And the scan of Colossus easily plowing his way through billions of tons of impregnable rock:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossussmashin.jpg

it is impressive for colossu *the above scans*, however it doesnt mean namor couldnt do similarly or better. i still believe he is stronger *by a big margin*. but colossus more durable. everything else goes to namor by small margins.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
And the scan of Colossus easily plowing his way through billions of tons of impregnable rock:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossussmashin.jpg

Seems like more of a feat of stamina and will than strength. He's really just punching through rock, albeit a metric f*ck ton. But anybody with Thing-level strength and above doesn't struggle with rock.

If Colossus lifted the whole pile off and moved it, that'd be different. Still, good stamina and will. Even when Hulk broke both his arms, Colossus was still talking trash. Props to Pete.

Namor still owns.

Originally posted by Master Court
Seems like more of a feat of stamina and will than strength. He's really just punching through rock, albeit a metric f*ck ton. But anybody with Thing-level strength and above doesn't struggle with rock.

If Colossus lifted the whole pile off and moved it, that'd be different. Still, good stamina and will. Even when Hulk broke both his arms, Colossus was still talking trash. Props to Pete.

Namor still owns.

But that wasn't ordinary rock. They were teleported to some dimension by Mikhail and he described the rock as impregnable.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
But that wasn't ordinary rock. They were teleported to some dimension by Mikhail and he described the rock as impregnable.
I guess it wasn't.

Originally posted by Mindset
I guess it wasn't.
A irresistible force met a unmovable object.

Nah. It was just rock, that's all. It's not like we were talking adamantium.

Kinda like Wolverine breaking "unbreakable" chains.

Or Cyclops breaking Deadpool's "unbreakable" sword.

Originally posted by Master Court
Nah. It was just rock, that's all. It's not like we were talking adamantium.
It was rock. But it rock from another dimension.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Both are close enough strength-wise, but while Namor is faster, Colossus' durability gives him the edge.

On land: Colossus, 8/10.
In water: Namor, 9/10.

👆

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Here is the scan of Colossus holding up the ceiling of a base 100 meters underground with the added weight of a series of massive avalanches:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/ColossusavalancheMFF3.jpg

And the scan of Colossus easily plowing his way through billions of tons of impregnable rock:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossussmashin.jpg

omg i though piotr was gonna ask logan for help lifting the ceiling... i woudl of lol'd 😱

as for the plowing , it was proabably impregnable for cahrecters less than colossus strength (similar to those cahins that logan broke being unbreakable for anyone weaker than logan)

i'll try and find some namor strength feats , he can easily lift several thousand tons casually while immersed

edit ... has anyone got (Hulk & Submariner '97) where namor is sufficiently to effortlessly toss a water-filled ocean-liner, despite the underwater viscosity ... thats quoted with ref from wiki 😖

if thats true a filled ocean liner weighs about 100,000 tons

Originally posted by Mindset
I guess it wasn't.
Yeah, I guess Colossus pregnated it just fine.

I would still give the advantage to Namor on land hes faster and seems to be more skilled.

edit: or 6/10 to Collosus on land.

Namor wins ... does not matter where. Colossus is slow and can only punch and throw people.

Piotr isn't slow 😬

Show me a issue where Hulk takes out Namor. On the Namor respect thread theres like at least 2-3 occasions where Namor takes out the Hulk, at times even playing with him. Secondly the events of WWH were so outlandish they should hardly be considered canon.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Show me a issue where Hulk takes out Namor. On the Namor respect thread theres like at least 2-3 occasions where Namor takes out the Hulk, at times even playing with him. Secondly the events of WWH were so outlandish they should hardly be considered canon.
Most of Namor's wins came under water iirc. That I know of Namor has never beat him on land. Fighting Namor in the water is a bad idea for any brick because of a huge maneuverability disadvantage.