Trion Juggernaught vs Thor-Destroyer

Started by SoulDevourer4 pages

so how come his hammer broke when he fire on the celestial but dint break when he fire on jug? 🙄

Because Celestial>Juggernaut?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
He wasn't unaffected. He got vertigo.

As I said to Rage, Thor being able to affect Galactus or Celestial is bad writing. This writer brought the GF blast down to more realistic levels.

I could accept it if you ad "in my opinion"

Originally posted by nicamarvin
what took you so long..? 😎

I was bussy.... 😈

Originally posted by Warlord
I could accept it if you ad "in my opinion"

It is IMO, but it makes sense. Thor being able to affect these uber-cosmics is what doesn't add up.

i thought thor just broke the dome that the celestials were in with his god force blast? i didnt think he actually defeated thier armor.

then i remember the theory that celestials LET things pierce thier armor. such as when the destroyer did it for a chance to study the weapon that did so? wouldnt that also apply to thors godforce blast?

That's all he did, blow a hole through his dome piece. Exitar didn't even flinch.

Why are we discussing the Godblast here anyway? What relevance does that have on the debate? 😛

Anyway, was Trion Jugz even considered above Skyfather level at this incarnation? Like I said, Thor-Destroyer managed to utterly pwn Hela within her own realm. Hela in her own realm was placed somewhere within Skyfather wasn't she?

this is a good fight. i dunno man, thor-destroyer is formidable but trion is on a whole 'nother shit. don't know how to call this one.

I won't put it past Trion Juggs to punch the animating spirit out of the armor.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33 2 pages. Plus there's no indication of how long it's suppose to take for him to compose himself physically.

After the first seizure hit him, the next page, Juggernaut easily downs Thor, then Thor does knocks him down, stands tall, tosses Mjolnir, and the following page the Juggernaut easily knocks him out by knocking him into a ware house. So clearly a lot more than two pages is needed with this malady in play.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33 More speculation on your part.

What speculation?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33 It serves to prove the power of the blast. Look at the writers narration bubble, he basically says the same thing.

Yes the power the God Blast has shown in the past. It’s still, perfectly clear that the God Blast depends on the amount of Godly Energy Thor channels. It’s just common sense. Hence why even with Mjolnir to double Mjolnir’s fortifications, it exploded attempting to channel that much power, in another, Thor needed a freaking stand just to hold Mjolnir in place as he channels Asgardian energy that engulfs Galactus himself, and in another we have this little beam of energy that pushes back Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33 Yeah, because Thor being physically weakened would some how weaken his ability to use the GF blast.

It would as it depends on the amount of his Godly Energy he channels.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33 Not quite son. The level he was using was clearly demonstrated in the scan. It was the same blast he fired at Galactus and the Celestial. He says as much. There would be no point in the writer having Thor say that unless he wanted to emphasize the power of the blast.

Are you stupid or just trying to be annoying?
How can you even debate this without laughing?

It’s clear, that the God Blast depends on the amount of energy channeled. How can it not be?

Was Mjolnir durability twice as less as it is normally when he fought against the Celestials? Was Thor’s strength weakened even more as he needed a stand to hold Mjolnir? Were we just imagining the fact that the first blast engulfed Galactus, and the second blast was so large it blew all the way through the giant Celestial? That’s the only way your theory would make sense.

Thor's God Blast clearly varies in power. From a narrow, beam of light, that only pushed down Juggernaut, to a vast attack that one shots someone above Odin, to an all encompassing blast that made Galactus run for his life and Thor needed a stand to contain Mjolnir, to a powerful energy source that can seal tears in reality, to an all powerful attack against the Celestials that even with the belt of strength doubling the fortifications of Mjolnir, it still shattered.
If you honestly think, that every single one of those God Blasts, were of the same level of power, you’re a new breed of stupid.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33 If anything, Thor being able to affect Galactus or a Celestial in any way is PIS.

sly

The first time we see the God Blast, was against Galactus, the second time was against the Celestial, as I recall. How can it be plot induced stupidity, if we don’t have any past showings of the God Blast to go off of?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33 I see, more unsubstantiated nonsense. The GF blast has always been a combination of the 2. He united his power with the power of mjolnir. It says that in the scan I provided.

Like I said, the God Blast is Thor's own Godly Energies channeled, contained/merged and then released through Mjolnir. Hence why the God Blast has been called, waves of unrelenting Asgardian energy on different occasions.

What’s the power of Mjolnir exactly?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33 I guess, like always, you're going to ignore on panel evidence when it goes against your argument.

The pot calling and the kettle.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33 And yet, you can't provide any.
Hmmm.

Maybe you’re just too dense to see it.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Because Celestial>Juggernaut?
whats that got to do with hammer breakin? 🤨

(hammer dont physicaly touch the targets)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
whats that got to do with hammer breakin? 🤨

(hammer dont physicaly touch the targets)

It matters because the reason it broke was too much power was pumped into mjolnir by Thor which in turn implies that every godblast is not the same power level.