are you allowed to beat the hell out of retarded people...
if its in self-defense? like if an heavily autistic person escapes from his guardian and attacks you or your child can you beat the shit out of him?
i was having a discussion about that with my cousin whose older brother is autistic and he says that hes pretty sure you cant do that.
Originally posted by Ms.MarvelAs long as you don't use exsessive force I'm sure it would be okay.
if its in self-defense? like if an heavily autistic person escapes from his guardian and attacks you or your child can you beat the shit out of him?i was having a discussion about that with my cousin whose older brother is autistic and he says that hes pretty sure you cant do that.
beat the shit out of them or defend yourself?
technically, you aren't allowed to viciously assault a normal attacker, only use proportionately necessary force.
So, if you restrained the guy, or needed to strike them in order to either knock them out or immobilize them or whatever, legally, you should be ok. If you got upset that they attacked your brother and started hitting them, you are breaking the law. But that is also the case with normals.
If someone is trying to harm you the law allows you to defend yourself within reason. Beating the crap out of your attacker would probably be frowned on if he was autistic (and really how many homicidal autistic people are there?) or retarded or for some other reason didn't understand what was happening.
uummm... dudes. if a person has a mental disease and they attack, it's because their brain is telling them too. schizophrenics [especially paranoid schizophrenics] can be incredibly violent if they are not stabilized. the same goes with and extremely depressed or extremely manic person, a person with down's syndrome.... etc. any human being can be pushed to the point of violence, and if you are being perceived as a threat by someone, anyone, regardless of mental state, then you have a right to defend yourself.
an extremely autistic person can get upset at the merest thing. because you know they're autistic is not a reason to say, "oh, you're brain damaged. well, i guess i don't mind too much if you kill me."
pc gone over the edge.
I believe the law in almost every country is that one a person crosses the line into where you could be seriously hurt, raped, or killed, you are allowed to use appropriate force, up to and including deadly force to protect yourself regardless of the mental status of the person attacking you and especially if the person has a disability which prevents them from acting rationally or restraining themselves as a healthy person would. If you were justified in using force but you used force deemed excessive, the worst that could happen to you is if legal authorities found out that you had sufficient training in self defense or combat, that you had reasonable control of the situation but chose to use excessive force, you can be charged with assault with a deadly weapon, even if you fought back with your bare hands.
Originally posted by siriuswriter
uummm... dudes. if a person has a mental disease and they attack, it's because their brain is telling them too. schizophrenics [especially paranoid schizophrenics] can be incredibly violent if they are not stabilized. the same goes with and extremely depressed or extremely manic person, a person with down's syndrome.... etc. any human being can be pushed to the point of violence, and if you are being perceived as a threat by someone, anyone, regardless of mental state, then you have a right to defend yourself.an extremely autistic person can get upset at the merest thing. because you know they're autistic is not a reason to say, "oh, you're brain damaged. well, i guess i don't mind too much if you kill me."
pc gone over the edge.
No one has said you should let someone kill you because they're retarded, schizophrenic, autistic etc.
And statistically untreated schizophrenics are some of the least dangerous people in the entire world.
Statistically, someone who is mentally ill or impaired is about 10 times more likely to be victimized than to victimized someone else. Considering distribution of mental illnesses associated with violence such as sociopathy and psychopathy, I'd be much more worried about a CEO murdering you than someone who's homeless or in a mental hospital.
If a retard came and attacked me, I would beat the crap out of him so hard he may actually speak in perfect english and say "stop".
Mentally disabled can be very unpredictably violent. One time I witnessed a retard punching a window endlessly and I could've sworn that window was about to break and this was while on a city bus. At high school there are a few mentally disabled and one of them punched their assistant on the shoulder and wouldn't stop. I can tell that the assistant's arm didn't move right for a whole week.