Ganon & Link vs God Kratos & Galen Malek

Started by First_Tsurugi067 pages
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Only if you are a splittist.
Did you also forget that Link is infinitely invincible? If Kratos makes a gesture, his hand will be removed by the Master Sword. To say otherwise would be really dumb.

I see it as a "one past, two futures" kind of thing, not an outright split.

Only ever shown to be so towards conventional means within what's fathomable in his series. Link will be lucky to even hit Kratos who has literally every physical advantage over any Link. Saying otherwise to THAT is what's dumb.

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Some will argue that he was no weaker during that time than in GoWII when fighting Zeus

It's what's more than heavily implied based on blatant showings. That, and I doubt the Athena's Blades are named that just for the hell of it.

Yes, it was.

Well it had the power of the titans gifts by the end of GOW2, and he also had the sword that held his godly power most of the fight. Also dont forget Zeus did not go all out until the end in which Kratos won due to trickery, not brute force.

Well its difficult to make a direct argument, by actual feats they are destroyed by these powerful items but obvioulsy its a far reach to say another item just as powerful or an enemy just as strong as these characters could defeat them, same with their lack of resistance to soul and mind powers. Ares implied that the mind of a god is more vulnerable than their body when he went into Kratos' head.

Also do you know whats really dumb? the idea that Ganon and Link could stop Kratos AND Galen marek, Marek who could with a gesture turn either of team 1 into paste.

We all know that you dont know the first thing about Zelda, BT, so dont make any claims about their durability. I dont think that you, FT, are giving Link due credit. Do you realize how strong he is with the GG on? Its surely nothing to scoff at. Galen is easily screwed by the Mirror Shield.

My question is this: What could either of them possibly do to hurt team 1?

Most powerful sorcery: Ganondorf
Most powerful weapon: Master Sword
Invicibility: Ganondorf, Link, God Kratos
Fastest object in play: Link's arrows
Characters fighting with debuffs: Link, Ganondorf

Originally posted by Sappho
ok, i see you do this all the time, and since no one else notices/will say something about it, i will. its NOTHING, not NONETHING.

I don't care.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
We all know that you dont know the first thing about Zelda, BT, so dont make any claims about their durability. I dont think that you, FT, are giving Link due credit. Do you realize how strong he is with the GG on? Its surely nothing to scoff at. Galen is easily screwed by the Mirror Shield.

My question is this: What could either of them possibly do to hurt team 1?

Most powerful sorcery: Ganondorf
Most powerful weapon: Master Sword
Invicibility: Ganondorf, Link, God Kratos
Fastest object in play: Link's arrows
Characters fighting with debuffs: Link, Ganondorf

Thats the fault of the Link supporters not mine, your shortcomings in LoK are obvious but thats no excuse for me not to teach you a thing or two, this is reflected also in your knowledge of Kratos and Galen, both of which I know marginally more about than you do, the former vastly more.

Being a fan of Link is no excuse for him to win I hope you understand.

Marek can as I said turn either of the opposing team into paste.

The master sword being anything close to the Blade of Olympus must have been a joke or a lack of insight, the dinky thing can only just succeed in the job its made for let alone match the blade of the heaven and the earth held by a stronger entity.

BOO in the war of the titans. God Kratos has Aries weird abilities.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Only if you are a splittist.
Did you also forget that Link is infinitely invincible? If Kratos makes a gesture, his hand will be removed by the Master Sword. To say otherwise would be really dumb.

marek would tk him before link can even think about what to do.

Link isn't strong enough to match Kratos without equipment.

Depends on the Link you're using. Twilight Princess Link matches Ganon in strength without any strength enhancing items.

Originally posted by Sappho
marek would tk him before link can even think about what to do.
Originally posted by Phanteros
Link isn't strong enough to match Kratos with equipment.

Marek's got his hands full with Ganondorf.

Kratos is evil, Link can hold him off while Ganon soul rapes Marek, then they gang up on KRatos for the win.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Marek who could with a gesture turn either of team 1 into paste.

This is BS. As an avid Star Wars fan, I know Marek has no such power. Yes he managed to defeat Vader and yes he has great TK powers able to send Troopers flyin, redirect fallin SDs, and crush AT-ST's... But Ganon also has some insane TK feats such as holding up a castle, destroying two castles, and Zant (Who uses but a little of Ganon's power) throws Link, Midna, and a Light Spirit like dolls. And that is not even what Ganon is good at. His sorcery should easily enable him to trap Marek in a magic crystal (like he did to Zelda) or throw him into the space between dimensions. Heck with but a bit of his power, Ganon was able to cover the Great Sea in an endless night and rain.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Marek who could with a gesture turn either of team 1 into paste.

Blunder 4 part 1 😉

Originally posted by ares834
Blunder 4 part 1 😉

That was serious win.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Kratos is evil, Link can hold him off while Ganon soul rapes Marek, then they gang up on KRatos for the win.
Not this shit again. Plus this is God Kratos.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Kratos is evil, Link can hold him off while Ganon soul rapes Marek, then they gang up on KRatos for the win.

No he's not, first off. If Kratos is classifiable as evil by what he's done overall, then I can think of a good half dozen anti-heroes that fit the category moreso. As said prior, Link would be lucky to outmatch Kratos in any category, because he's not goig to be "holdimg him off" for anymore than what few moments it takes for Kratos to overpower him.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
I dont think that you, FT, are giving Link due credit. Do you realize how strong he is with the GG on? Its surely nothing to scoff at. Galen is easily screwed by the Mirror Shield.

My question is this: What could either of them possibly do to hurt team 1?

Most powerful sorcery: Ganondorf
Most powerful weapon: Master Sword
Invicibility: Ganondorf, Link, God Kratos
Fastest object in play: Link's arrows
Characters fighting with debuffs: Link, Ganondorf

I'm not doing anything to downplay what Link is capable of (hell, the kid's pretty much among my top five favorite VG chars). He's underrated in some senses, but still, by no means is he close to the league of every other character here unless in the composite sense. I've not yet ignored what Link is capable of with the GG, but the thing is that Kratos with his bare hands still has better feats of strength than any Link has ever had with enhancements, and most will argue that Ganon too, is still stronger than Link. I acknowledge what a composite Link is capable of, but also that a singlar Link is maybe low-level metahuman at best, taking on a semi-diety level tyrant and only ever winning through plot device and interventions. Link doesnt have the luxuries of PIS and hyperbole against an actual deity who, as such, shares none of the weaknesses of Link's nemesis, and I'm not about to go assuming that a virtually featless mask can level the playing field for Link.

It would take longer to explain why even all-out, team 1 would be hard pressed to have very many means of doing anything to either on team 2 before they're are mercilessly slaughtered. Or rather Link, at least.

Blade of Olympus is also leagues more powerful than the Master Sword btw. Master Sword's usefulness only comes into play in the midst of athreat of darkness to the kingdom. Aside from sorcery which, in most scenarios if not all do go to Ganon, Kratos has every advantage you stated except for maybe the fastest object in play, which is the Force, which Marek controls.

Who's stronger between Kratos and Link could actually be debated, I'm not necessarily claiming Link's stronger, I'm just saying, Kratos strength does seem to get praised a little overzealously at times.

God Kratos is obviously stronger.

Link could still hold even god Kratos off long enough for Ganon to finish off Marek, imho. [This won't take long.]

I believe very firmly that Kratos is evil, that doesn't make him a villain. You can be evil and still be an anti-hero, people seem to think I'm insinuating he's the bad guy. I do believe he's evil though. He's simply too cruel and aggressive to be neutral.

Originally posted by ares834
This is BS. As an avid Star Wars fan, I know Marek has no such power. Yes he managed to defeat Vader and yes he has great TK powers able to send Troopers flyin, redirect fallin SDs, and crush AT-ST's... But Ganon also has some insane TK feats such as holding up a castle, destroying two castles, and Zant (Who uses but a little of Ganon's power) throws Link, Midna, and a Light Spirit like dolls. And that is not even what Ganon is good at. His sorcery should easily enable him to trap Marek in a magic crystal (like he did to Zelda) or throw him into the space between dimensions. Heck with but a bit of his power, Ganon was able to cover the Great Sea in an endless night and rain.

You just listed a ton of agreeing factors for my argument, then claimed that my statements were baseless with your little mockery of my blunder system. You just made a blunder yourself......agreeing with me then telling me I blundered...

And no, Ganon has nothing in comparison with Galens TK, first Ganon having TK means nothing unless you can prove he cna block the force as it happens, second he cant react to Galen....third, lifting a castle which by the wya ive not seen yet so go and fetch the evidence is nothing to a Stardesroyer....not even close.

Its obvious your one of the ole Moocow/Screampaste friend crew....this is a joke, I know you guys need support but trying to get everything friend you have to sign up and say the same argument youve already stated is redundant, its not going to make your arguments mean any more and furthermore youve still not shown the evidence for most of this...

Why does everyone assume that Kratos will fight as a giant? Anyway, couldn't Galen immobolize Link? And then it will be left 2-on-1, and Kratos would, most likely, beat Ganon? Starkiller could probably paralize Link, while Kratos rips him in half or something.