Originally posted by Burning thoughtI believed the Void took him over and that's where he became on, not at the moment, He would of won if he didn't disappear.
It just says the void consumed him and turned him into a raging beast....It says nothing about him being nothingness itself...What claims this? can you show me? he seems like Ultemecia from a debating stand point to me, has a vast potential power that can never be reached in a VS.
any we way off topic
after Exdeath got control of the void he banished the only thing that could stand up to him away but the former chosen heroes was able to hold off the void for the new 4 to finish the fight.
basically neoexdeath would win any match by way of instant void death unless he fights the crystal warriors ermm
Yes but by what means? and with a thought? ive heard that one before, show me him doing this, i remember him having to open a portal or something and it slowly sucked a few people in...
Edit:
reading this:
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Exdeath
He can call upon the void with a thought, but he has to channel the void over teh area to take it from excistence to another dimension.....so the void does not seem to destroy what it takes and in the end, his own void powers destroyed/defeated him....so he does not sound too great afterall.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtNot actually. When the Void killed( if you read further) he became neo Exdeath. And the Void as stated just consumed him it didn't defeat him so he is still great. When he took complete control of it that's when he started doing the large landmasses. before that he only can do rifts. as Exdeath the warriors at the past had no way of putting down he just kept coming back untill they sealed him in the crystals.
Yes but by what means? and with a thought? ive heard that one before, show me him doing this, i remember him having to open a portal or something and it slowly sucked a few people in...Edit:
reading this:
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Exdeath
He can call upon the void with a thought, but he has to channel the void over teh area to take it from excistence to another dimension.....so the void does not seem to destroy what it takes and in the end, his own void powers destroyed/defeated him....so he does not sound too great afterall.
Later on, when His power turned on him he changed into to Neo Exdeath
No it turned him into that ridiculous entity....a beast, its arguable if he was really exdeath or if he had any other powers other than those shown in that form...
The void certainly did not help him, nor did it give him much power, simply made him a beast.....
Either way his void powers seem too slow to be used on Kain, and his void powers can consume him as well...it would be like Kain trying to rip the soul out of one of his opponents only for him to all of a sudden lose his own on his own power. Would be a bit useless wouldnt it...
Once Exdeath claims complete control over the Void, his power soars. He is now able to erase any part of existence with a thought, channeling the Void to engulf it and sending it into another random dimension. It is also a significant display of power when it is revealed that the only way the Light Warriors were able to defeat him was when his own power turned against him.
So...he thinks to call upon the power, how much concentration you would have to show me, and if it really is instant to call upon by thought, he has to channel the void, which sounds like he needs to keep it going himself (so he would be vulernable to attackers during the thought and the channeling) and thats if his power does not absorb him and turn him into a beast....
Note that Kain goes through dimensions quite often....in and out, his dimentional teleport would get him out and back to destroy Exdeath again since the void does not say that it destroys anything at all....
Originally posted by Burning thoughtYour not understanding it. The Void turned on him. The Void was sentiment and had a mind of its own. and the odds of that happening in a vs match is zero.
No it turned him into that ridiculous entity....a beast, its arguable if he was really exdeath or if he had any other powers other than those shown in that form...The void certainly did not help him, nor did it give him much power, simply made him a beast.....
Either way his void powers seem too slow to be used on Kain, and his void powers can consume him as well...it would be like Kain trying to rip the soul out of one of his opponents only for him to all of a sudden lose his own on his own power. Would be a bit useless wouldnt it...
Originally posted by Burning thoughtOdds of that happening in a vs match is zero unless Exdeath decides make end it quicker. he was doing just fine against the warriors untill it happen. its not going to happen in some random occurrence like that in a vs match as much as you want it to happen.
Thats exactley what ime saying? what are you claiming that I am getting wrong?So your saying he uses a power/entity that turned on him? and you think that is helpful to him in a vs?
Kain probably wont have to do anything if he was in a VS against him, the void would attack him if he used it.
Originally posted by Phanteros
Odds of that happening in a vs match is zero unless Exdeath decides make end it quicker. he was doing just fine against the warriors untill it happen. its not going to happen in some random occurrence like that in a vs match as much as you want it to happen.
Why not? random occurance? according to the source the void is a devouring entity, to me its probably more likely that its going to devour Exdeath in a vs than not considering it actually did in the canon anyway....
Did it even have any specific reason to do so? or am I correct? its like an animal on a leash that turned on its user? (I did not want to use the word master)
And then you still have to explain and show me how long it takes, you were right about one thing, he can call upon the power at his prime with a thought, but he has to channel the void (which could take time) AND then the void has to engulf the area, which Kain may escape depending on the size of the void.
You see its just as well that I do actually look up these FF characters, their overhyped to the max.....you see this is whats called disproving hype, not just trolling and spamming which is the tactic against my apprent "kain hype".
Originally posted by Burning thoughtIf that was the case then it would of killed him when he had limited control of it then
Why not? random occurance? according to the source the void is a devouring entity, to me its probably more likely that its going to devour Exdeath in a vs than not considering it actually did in the canon anyway....
Did it even have any specific reason to do so? or am I correct? its like an animal on a leash that turned on its user? (I did not want to use the word master)It simply turned on him
And then you still have to explain and show me how long it takes, you were right about one thing, he can call upon the power at his prime with a thought, but he has to channel the void (which could take time) AND then the void has to engulf the area, which Kain may escape depending on the size of the void.unless Kain can escape large land masses]
You see its just as well that I do actually look up these FF characters, their overhyped to the max.....you see this is whats called disproving hype, not just trolling and spamming which is the tactic against my apprent "kain hype".Exdeath isn't hyped like Sephiroth.
Originally posted by Phanteros
If that was the case then it would of killed him when he had limited control of it thenIt simply turned on him
unless Kain can escape large land masses]
Exdeath isn't hyped like Sephiroth.
Apprently he only opened tiny portals when he only had limited control.
Well then its not a very restrained power is it, if I were him I wouldnt use it....
I dont know, Kain teleported from the battle against raziel and the next time you see him hes halfway across Nosgoth, ofc its speculation if his teleport took him that far although I dont see why he would teleport away from a defeated foe if he did not want to cover some great distance. Also remember in his bat form he can cover great distance as well, and what if he dimentionaly teleported himself? at the same time as the void sucked things in? he could perhaps escape the void, not sure really. we know he can be in the spectral world now though since he can see the EG.
very true but then Exdeath has a huge fan base.