Originally posted by Deadline
Well I know for a fact it happens in Blackgate prison and I always thought Blackgate was Arkham junior.
Spiderman has the best chance here. He's the strongest, fastest, is used to dealing with a lot of people at one time, and is also used to dealing with baddies on a level or two higher than him. He has webbing that most of the inmates wouldn't be able to get out of, and he's fast enough to get to joker and scarecrow before their respective poisons get to him. As for ivy, Parker loves MJ too much to do anything, so he gets through everybody pretty quickly.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganI've never seen anything about power dampeners being installed in Arkham.
I would think you are right if it able to hold clayface, grundy ect. I think it have to have power dampeners. That make me believe that spiderman aint likely to survive. Some one like frank however would do very well in such a scenerio.
Originally posted by Uriel005
Really? but I'm still pretty sure Arkham's got a room for each of Batman's rogues just in case they need to pop in.
I'm assuming we're using the recent Arkham Asylum game as the setting here. That means that general building layout, with lots of random thugs with the big dogs hiding out here and there.
Daredevil is the only one here at a disadvantage. Of the heroes listed he's the only one WORSE off than Batman usually is- Daredevil has peak human (or somewhere around there) stats, but none of batman's equipment to give him an edge.
Rogers also lacks batman's extra gear, but physically he's superior. He has MUCH better stamina, better speed (remember, cap has run at 60mph while carrying someone else), and that shield of his is an incredible OFFENSIVE weapon as well as a defensive weapon. I played through arkham asylum, and batman was in bad shape if anyone in the room had a gun. With the shield? Rogers has nothing to worry about.
Offensively, we've seen steve use it to split trucks in half- 99% of batman's gallery can't take more than one or two shots from that thing at full power and Steve is VERY accurate with it. Bane and Croc could hang with steve, but steve is a better fighter and has taken down stronger opponents than those two easily.
Spider man has a massive speed advantage over anyone there, plus that webbing (assuming he has spare carts and doesn't run out) has the strength of steel cables. anyone he can't outright one shot KO he can immobilize, and don't forget pete is a wall crawler. he can literally waltz across the ceiling undetected in areas that gave batman the fits.
and as for the strength advantage, forget about it. Even Croc isn't going to give him any more problems than the lizard usually does, and I've lost count of how many times pete has taken out the lizard with brute force. Spider man ALSO deals with goblin gas etc on a regular basis and does have masks and filters to deal with it if he knows it's on the menu.
Punisher just does not give a damn. The man's a walking arsenal and as someone else pointed out would just straight up massacre everyone inside as quickly as possible. machine guns, grenades, C4- villains get a lot of mileage out of knowing batman isn't going to kill them. once the body count starts piling up with murdered (not KOed!) thugs, your average criminal isn't going to want to get in frank's way.
So Punisher with ease, Spiderman and Cap with little to moderate difficulty, Daredevil is toast.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
I'm assuming we're using the recent Arkham Asylum game as the setting here. That means that general building layout, with lots of random thugs with the big dogs hiding out here and there.Daredevil is the only one here at a disadvantage. Of the heroes listed he's the only one WORSE off than Batman usually is- Daredevil has peak human (or somewhere around there) stats, but none of batman's equipment to give him an edge.
Rogers also lacks batman's extra gear, but physically he's superior. He has MUCH better stamina, better speed (remember, cap has run at 60mph while carrying someone else), and that shield of his is an incredible OFFENSIVE weapon as well as a defensive weapon. I played through arkham asylum, and batman was in bad shape if anyone in the room had a gun. With the shield? Rogers has nothing to worry about.
Offensively, we've seen steve use it to split trucks in half- 99% of batman's gallery can't take more than one or two shots from that thing at full power and Steve is VERY accurate with it. Bane and Croc could hang with steve, but steve is a better fighter and has taken down stronger opponents than those two easily.
Spider man has a massive speed advantage over anyone there, plus that webbing (assuming he has spare carts and doesn't run out) has the strength of steel cables. anyone he can't outright one shot KO he can immobilize, and don't forget pete is a wall crawler. he can literally waltz across the ceiling undetected in areas that gave batman the fits.
and as for the strength advantage, forget about it. Even Croc isn't going to give him any more problems than the lizard usually does, and I've lost count of how many times pete has taken out the lizard with brute force. Spider man ALSO deals with goblin gas etc on a regular basis and does have masks and filters to deal with it if he knows it's on the menu.Punisher just does not give a damn. The man's a walking arsenal and as someone else pointed out would just straight up massacre everyone inside as quickly as possible. machine guns, grenades, C4- villains get a lot of mileage out of knowing batman isn't going to kill them. once the body count starts piling up with murdered (not KOed!) thugs, your average criminal isn't going to want to get in frank's way.
So Punisher with ease, Spiderman and Cap with little to moderate difficulty, Daredevil is toast.
Originally posted by Lunacyde
I enjoy the well thought out analysis, but i believe you are selling some of the Batman villains short.
I think he has a good point though. Batman Villains aren't going to take bus cutting shields from Rogers too well nor are they accustomed to heroes trying to kill them like punisher. Also unless you're talking high end bane and croc 15 tonner spidey can and will definitely crush them if he takes off the kiddy gloves. Also the rebreather in his mask for dealing with Green Goblin pretty much renders joker venom and fear gas useless especially considering the villains who use them don't have the speed or strength to manually inject their poisons of choice into him.
However that said I think don't see how anyone but punisher will deal with clayface. I mean yes Spidey does tangle with Sandman but he relies on environmental factors to BFR him more often than not. Frank at least will torch him into pottery Spidey and the other not so much.
By the way is this shadowlands DD if so he stands a much better chance.
Re: Who can survive Arkham's Asylum
Originally posted by Starscream MNo one if Clayface is in Arkham.
All of batman's worst enemies are in Arkham, except the Joker has managed to let all the inmates loose and killed all the guards. Now the crazies run amok, with Joker as their leader!Which of the following Marvel heroes could enter Arkham (with no prep) and come out alive after taking down all the baddies?
Captain America
Spider-Man
Punisher (armed with standard weaponry)
Daredevil