Originally posted by LunacydeWho says he doesn't?
Who says he faces Clayface first?
Originally posted by Lunacyde
He may have already faced say Scarecrow and been subjected to fear gas.
Originally posted by Lunacyde
Also since this is a real situation and doesn't follow game mechanics he very well may have to face multiple opponents at once.
Originally posted by LunacydeWho said he was fighting Clayface first?
Who says he faces Clayface first? He may have already faced say Scarecrow and been subjected to fear gas.Also since this is a real situation and doesn't follow game mechanics he very well may have to face multiple opponents at once.
You don't think he can dodge fear gas, it's not like he's in a small inescapable room.
Scarecrow would be oneshotted before he even knew he was fighting.
Being that Batman is my fav book, and daredevil is a close second, im gonna give each of these guys a fair chance.
Castle is the most linear guy in this bunch aside from Cap, so he's gonna come in and make bank.
How are these guys gonna deal with Joker/Dent etc?
With less patience than Bruce.
Frank is gonna liquidate his face, DD is gonna fracture his jaw, Spidey is gonna give him web poisoning, and Cap is gonna brain him.
The premise of this thread is going to play right to the heroes advantage. Inmates running asylum, guards/staff already dead?
This is just a game of wackamole now.
Freeze and his ilk/ie the supersuits are done, since their equipment isn't kept on site.
The biggest problem is gonna be clayface, but as long as there's running water, he's just a drain away from defeat.
Spidey whips up an airtight web containment.
Castle just gets shooting until he gets lucky(we know he's gonna get lucky) Cap redirects a busted valve and DD is gonna smell Clayface once he steps inside the building.
The biggest wrench in any batman story is the innocents that get squashed when he and his foes fight.
Contained in an extremely large building, with no one in the mix who needs to be saved, they clean up, just as Batman would.
As I said before, 3 out of the four dudes do it. Daredevil die.
Anyone who think that Spider-Man might have trouble have to go read the respect thread, right now.
It's an insult to compare him to the like of Bane, or Kroc, in the strenght department. I mean, seriously? He's 10 tons strong. The only two he don't kills with a single punch are Ivy and Clayface. All the other are either webbed, or KO. And has the infamous "Joker Gas", he'll be web before he can use it. Because he won't see Spider-Man coming. Oh, and don't forget that Parker is a ****in' genius. Not on Wayne level, of course, but he's a brain. As for Ivy and Clayface... What chance do they have? Sure, they are great against a mere human, but Spider-Man isn't a mere human. Polymorphing won't help Clayface, because it's nullified with spider-sense. Also, since Spider-Man score victory over both Sandman and Hydro-Man...
Current Steve Rogers don't have the shield, but he and current Cap America both use guns. It should be enough to stop a lot of them.
Frank just blow the shit out of the building. Or walk in and shoot the shit out of anyone he sees. I bet Joker will have a little bit more trouble with that.
Originally posted by Lunacyde
I enjoy the well thought out analysis, but i believe you are selling some of the Batman villains short.
which ones? Keep in mind I'm making some assumptions.
1.) standard forum rules of "common knowledge." i.e. if clayface is there, everyone's aware he can't tolerate water, and is a shapeshifter, etc. The reverse is also true for the villains, but I can't see this really helping them at all- in fact it works in frank's favor since "common knowledge" is that he's a killer, not a hero.
2.) everyone's coming prepared. it doesn't make sense for punisher to show up without being armed, spider man to show up without filters in his mask when he knows several villains (scarecrow, joker) commonly use gas and poisons, and steve has the shield...simply because when typically discussing rogers around here it's the classic version w/shield.
3.) as someone said before, Freeze or anyone reliant on super high tech gear isn't likely to have equipment on site since they're incarcerated.
assuming 1 and 2 and 3 are true- there isn't a whole lot that most of batman's rogue's gallery can do in this situation that Frank, Pete, and Steve haven't seen a billion times before. There's NO one who's a better fighter than Rogers, stronger or faster than spiderman, or better armed than the punisher. and without innocents to worry about, there's no chance for mind games. if it moves, it's a threat.
