Originally posted by Mindset
Herc doesn't go toe to toe with Hulk, ok...you don't even know their fights, how would you know how Herc does against him?Herc has shown himself to be comfortably stronger than Namor.
Anyway, I'm going to watch a movie.
What are you talking about?
Hercules, Namor, Wonder Man, and Iron Man, were all in trouble against the Mindless Hulk as I recall. Thor went toe to toe.
Really? I recall Hercules shown to be superior, but not by a gap. Oh well, that should be the case. Hercules should be on another level than Namor. Hell, Thor one shotted him while it was raining.
What movie?
Originally posted by BouboumasterNOT HERE....PIS is NOT allowed...Herc should KO hulk in NO time...check this link....
Hulk would, again, wtfpwn Hercules, mace or not.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Defenders_019_04.jpg
I see herc 6/10 here
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No not at all. I have all of their fights and have read them many times. Thor and Hercules are always portrayed as their equals.Unfortunately outside of their fights, that ain't case at times.
Case and point Mindless Hulk. Hercules, Namor, Wonder Man, and so on were all being manhandled as I recall. Thor stalemates him and goes toe to toe with him on his own. Case and point Ares. Thor beats the crap out of him while he is 3 times more powerful and stronger, while Hercules gets stalemated.
I don't know how it works. He isn't portrayed as Thor's equal consistently.
Thor had an advantage over Mindless Hulk that Hercules didn't have. Y'know, that magic hammer he likes to swing around? And even then he proclaimed that Mindless Hulk could possibly kill him when he swung around an adamantium statue.
Hell, Hercules was just having fun sparring, even taking a bretaher to fight off Doc Samson, whilst Thor was ready to fight to the death.
The Mindless Hulk example doesn't hold up. At all.
Originally posted by nicamarvin
NOT HERE....PIS is NOT allowed...Herc should KO hulk in NO time...check this link....http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Defenders_019_04.jpg
I see herc 6/10 here
Wow, your actually making me defend the Hulk.
The Hulk's level depends on the challenge presented and the level of anger. Some times he starts out below Abomination or in Thor's league. Really depends how tough he is on how fast he amps and how strong he becomes.
Going by how Thor's fights are, he would start in their league. Meaning above the Wrecker.
Originally posted by Accel
When they match each other evenly every they fight, that IS conistency.Thor had an advantage over Mindless Hulk that Hercules didn't have. Y'know, that magic hammer he likes to swing around? And even then he proclaimed that Mindless Hulk could possibly kill him when he swung around an adamantium statue.
Hell, Hercules was just having fun sparring, even taking a bretaher to fight off Doc Samson, whilst Thor was ready to fight to the death.
The Mindless Hulk example doesn't hold up. At all.
Like I said, in all of their personal fights, they go toe to toe and stalemate. In their own fights they are portrayed consistently outside of them not as much.
That magic hammer, really depends on the writer if it changes anything. Some times Thor hits just as hard, sometimes it's portrayed that Mjolnir adds more damage, which it should technically. Hulk is the exception really at times.
Magic hammer or not, Thor was going toe to toe, taking his blows head on, without budging, and giving as good as he was getting. He was using both hands by the way.
He said, that an Adamantium weapon, in the hands of someone like Mindless Hulk could kill him. Kill him in what way though? If the Hulk say repeadetly pounded on Thor with that non stop, something made of Adamantium is durable enough to withstand such an onslaught.
I don't recall it that way. I remember Hercules having trouble with the rest of them. I would check, but I can't.
There are other examples really.
Originally posted by nicamarvin
the thread opener did not say how angry hulk was...so lets asume he is at base level= WC level......if herc knows whats good for him he will end the fight soon...
You mean 100 tons base level? Meh, if that's the case, and he starts out that low, a hit or two from Hercules upside the head, should take him out.
I think it talk from itself:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkholdingbackagainsthercules.jpg
Originally posted by BouboumasterNO BUDDY... 😠 this talks for itself http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Defenders_019_04.jpg
[B]I think it talk from itself:
anyways he says Hulk so I guess its current Hulk not WWH....
^Which proves my point.
As much as I enjoy his run on Hercules and it's freaking hilarious, Greg Pak doesn't know what the hell he is doing in terms of power levels as far as I can tell. I don't want him touching Thor, like ever.
He had Atum killed like a joke, had Hercules stalemated by Ares, had Hercules burned by a normal explosion, had Hercules shot (They were dipped in Hydra blood though.). He apparently has Hercules with more healing instead of more tanking, like the Hulk. I got the new Thor and Hercules mythological encyclopedia which Pak was a co writer for, and they had Thor at the 100 ton mark. Lulz.
Originally posted by nicamarvin
NO BUDDY... 😠 this talks for itself http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Defenders_019_04.jpganyways he says Hulk so I guess its current Hulk not WWH....
Low showing.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
^Which proves my point.As much as I enjoy his run on Hercules and it's freaking hilarious, Greg Pak doesn't know what the hell he is doing in terms of power levels as far as I can tell. I don't want him touching Thor, like ever.
He had Atum killed like a joke, had Hercules stalemated by Ares, had Hercules burned by a normal explosion, had Hercules shot (They were dipped in Hydra blood though.). He apparently has Hercules with more healing instead of more tanking, like the Hulk. I got the new Thor and Hercules mythological encyclopedia which Pak was a co writer for, and they had Thor at the 100 ton mark. Lulz.
I can bring the fight Hulk had with the avengers too. What can you bring to the table to convince people that Herc might able to beat Hulk?
Originally posted by Bouboumasterthis....
What can you bring to the table to convince people that Herc might able to beat Hulk?