Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nah. Especially if Sentry can burn him out. He did nothing to suggest he would beat Superman every single time. Nothing.Anytime he fought a real power houses there were circumstances. I'd say Superman would beat Sentry and seeing as how his best feat in that entire arc was stalemating Sentry, that doesn't do much to change my opinion.
Sentry didn't burn him out. Sentry's aura reverted him. That's what his aura does. It biologically, not mentally, calms the Hulk. That's why they became friends. The aura eases the background pain Hulk always feels. And that calms him. World Breaker was exerting more power than WWHulk ever had, so it obviously wasn't a burn out. And since World Breaker isn't a persona, and just WWHulk going all-out, it's hard to believe he was burnt out without fighting anywhere near his maximum.
So what? It's not as if Green Scar's levels are beyond Savage Hulk or anything. Savage Hulk is the core Hulk incarnation. He just needs the proper motivation. Like you said, the Savage Hulk is the main Hulk or something along those lines.Green Scar was weakened severely by the worm hole and was levels below even Savage Hulk. Then he got stronger as time progressed, then got an amp by the Warp Core. That's basically the biggest difference in their power levels besides the fact that Green Scar was a lot more angrier because of his lose.
That wasn't Savage Hulk. That was Grey Hulk. Which I do not believe was cannon. It was a Marvel Presents issue was it not? Are those cannon?
Savage Hulk has the greatest feats. Just pointing that out. [/B]
My point exactly. Anything any Hulk does is achievable and then some by Savage Hulk. That includes pulling planets back together, breaking Colossus' arms, soloing the X-Men, the Fantastic Four. Savage Hulk's soloed the Avengers a million times, only ever getting trouble when Thor showed up. The Banner-Hulk that caught the mountain at a moments notice. And Reed or Ironman pissed him off to keep the strength up. Savage wouldn't need the pep talk. He's proven to be planet busting levels. Even World Breaker, whether Savage Hulk knows it or not, is achievable to him.
He spent a few weeks fighting in arenas, and used spears and axes etc. That qualifies someone for being a seasoned war strategist, gladiator and tactician? He just used common sense for the first time, and was weakened so had to resort to spears and so on.He didn't show any above natural skills with any weapons.
That qualifies someone for fighting acrobatically? Nightwing fights acrobatically. Hulk just jumped and turned in mid air. Doomsday has done as much. Wonder Woman doesn't probably have more skill, she has a lot more skill.
You are completely ignoring Wonder Woman's power set and trying to find justifications as to why the Hulk wins.
Wonder Woman =/= Sentry
She has at her disposal what Sentry does not. Just because Sentry failed does not in any way mean she would fail. Like I said in my original post, if she engaged him in "hand to hand" combat directly, and went blow for blow, yes she would lose. She'd go down fighting of course but she would lose every single time. No one is contesting that. That much is clear. On the other hand if she used her entire power set, there is absolutely no reason for her to lose. At all. [/B]
I am SO not ignoring Wonder Woman's powers. In this case, her fighting skill is her only advantage. Her strength, speed, and durability are piddly sh*t to WWHulk. WWHulk not only has the arena training and experience, he's got years of countless battles with Thor, Hercules, Gladiator, etc. All these bricks with fighting skills well beyond Hulk's. But Hulk has easily hung/beaten some of them. Thor has hit Hulk with Mjolnir at full strength before, and the fight didn't miss a beat. Hulk took it like it was any other attack. Nevermind the fight or Thor sh*t, I'm establishing Hulk's durability. Savage Hulk, BTW. Diana's most powerful shot would be nowhere near Thor's most powerful shot with Mjolnir.
And again, with the Sentry stuff, I'm establishing the power level of WWHulk. Sentry's a notoriously stupid/bad fighter. So nevermind that. I'm simply pointing out Sentry's maximum power didn't even really phase WWHulk. WWHulk seemed bored the whole time, except a few angry faces when getting hit.
How would the Hulk harm her? He cannot with her Aegis bracelets. They would block any damage.Hell, how would he even be able to tag her with her faster than light combat speed, flight and reflexes?
Wonder Woman can run circles around him and simply put, throwing her Lasso around him would be easy enough. Like I said before, there is absolutely no reason she should lose with her power set, and unlike other opponents Wonder Woman has shown to be extremely efficient in combat. [/B]
It's called reaction speed. Hulk's got bundles of it. Supersonic reaction speed is standard. He's gone faster. Besides, her bracelets can't block the shockwave of a hearty thunderclap, no matter if she's flying or not. Bottom line; he throws a punch, she blocks it, he snags her arms, and headbutts her ten times. If she's in the air, she gets a thunderclap. She lands somewhere, and Hulk lands right on top of her. He's been shown as jumping much faster than military fighter jets. So he lands, and she gets that big Hulk punch. You know the one where he's fully extended his arm and burying his opponent's head in the ground with rocks flying out? And as for the rope sh*t? Yeah right. Hulk could duck it or jump out of it before she can tighten it. Supersonic reactions, remember?
Diana's a much better fighter. That's it. Flying gives her a safe haven, but not an advantage. The most anyone could come up with for her is a strategy to survive and delay WWHulk until someone showed up to help. Help that would be quickly annihilated. But she would definitely never stand a chance against WWHulk. Not early on, and sure as f*ck not later.