he got a sprained ankle because the concussive force launched him into the air and he landed wrong.
add in the fact that he was also completely untrained in how to use the suits functions and that that was the first set of armor (whereas by halo 3 he has an upgraded more durable set of armor) and its pretty apparent that even though hes not invincible it'll conceivably take a lot more to take him down then i think snake has in his arsenal.
but tbh it doesnt really matter. in a non-pis/cis environment snake will die before he manages to shoot off any of his guns anyway.
Originally posted by Nemesis XLol no.
Gray Fox maybe faster but I don't think he's stronger than Chief. Just because Fox was able to prevent REX from squishing him doesn't mean he can be stronger than Chief. John would do the same thing if REX tried to step on him.
REX would clock in at 1,000 tons at least, Chief at his most wanked is a class 60, Chief would be flattened.
Seriously though, this fight is not as much of a stomp as any of you want it to be.
Snake at the very least has the reactions to fight with Chief, actually showing instances of real bullet-timing, the only reason he would lose is he is outclassed in strength and durability.
It doesnt matter if chief is the better sniper (which he isnt =/), snake has stealth and all it takes is one shot to knock MCs shield out (although maybe not all of it, a headshot will probably knock a good portion of his shield off)
also he has the MGL-140 which he can shoot around 6 rounds into MC while he is staggered by the railgun shot
Master Chief walk through a rain of heavy machinegun rounds without it even scratching his armor. He fell through the atmosphere with no injuries or damage on the armor. A military vehicle fell over him without him so much as losing his breath.
Also appearantly a fighter missile exploded by his feet.
I'm pretty sure Snake will need more than one or two rounds with whatever weapon. That is, assuming he hit him given how Chief is not unlikely as fast in terms of dodging bullets.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Lol no.REX would clock in at 1,000 tons at least, Chief at his most wanked is a class 60, Chief would be flattened.
Seriously though, this fight is not as much of a stomp as any of you want it to be.
Snake at the very least has the reactions to fight with Chief, actually showing instances of real bullet-timing, the only reason he would lose is he is outclassed in strength and durability.
and we both know that snake thrives on pis.
the sheer fact that he has the reflexes to keep up with a man who can dodge bullets, but those reflexes disappear when he fights slower opponents show that his abilities are incredibly inconsistent. in fact hes always just fast enough or just strong to beat his current opponent. its pis all of it.
and snakes stealth doesnt matter. john instantly noticed an insvisble elite from twenty feet away and he wasnt even focusin on it. hes spent ten years killing invisible opponents and snipers. i dont care what the mgs games say. going by whats actually shown the people in that game dont know the meaning of the word "stealth". lol. MGS has some of the worst stealth tactics ive ever seen in an "espionage" video game. 😂 it didnt make any sense until the invisibility in the fourth one.
as for "bullet dodging".
He saw the flash of a plasma bolt- side stepped- and heard the air crackle where he had stood a split second before.
Page 3-fall of reach.
he saw it coming first and then dodged it. thats certainly bullet dodging. not only can he perceive bullets moving but he does have the reflexes to dodge them. lets cut the cripes plz.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
and we both know that snake thrives on pis.the sheer fact that he has the reflexes to keep up with a man who can dodge bullets, but those reflexes disappear when he fights slower opponents show that his abilities are incredibly inconsistent. in fact hes always just fast enough or just strong to beat his current opponent. its pis all of it.
and snakes stealth doesnt matter. john instantly noticed an insvisble elite from twenty feet away and he wasnt even focusin on it. hes spent ten years killing invisible opponents and snipers. i dont care what the mgs games say. going by whats actually shown the people in that game dont know the meaning of the word "stealth". lol. MGS has some of the worst stealth tactics ive ever seen in an "espionage" video game. 😂 it didnt make any sense until the invisibility in the fourth one.
snake eater didnt have stealth tactics? 😆
no it didnt it had stupid ass ai tactics. 😂
"im going to lay down on the ground with nothing but a jumpsuit colored green on."
*guy walks right by snake and doesnt see him*
no. mgs doesnt know what stealth is. laying on the ****ing ground with a suit colored green isnt stealth dude. 😂
if you want to see what real stealth looks like? see splinter cell. its very fantasized as well but its the most realistic potrayal of actual "stealth" in a game.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
no it didnt it had stupid ass ai tactics. 😂"im going to lay down on the ground with nothing but a jumpsuit colored green on."
*guy walks right by snake and doesnt see him*
no. mgs doesnt know what stealth is. laying on the ****ing ground with a suit colored green isnt stealth dude. 😂
if you want to see what real stealth looks like? see splinter cell. its very fantasized as well but its the most realistic potrayal of actual "stealth" in a game.
Yep, its stealth isnt so amazing anymore but thats not the point, if they start far apart (how far apart do they start by the way), then i doubt MC will see snake right away, and thats enough for snake to get off a few rail gun shots, which will stagger him so he cant move out of the way of the MGL-140s 6 grenades, which will do even more damage or knock him down enough for snake to unload more railgun rounds
Originally posted by Merc'd
Yep, its stealth isnt so amazing anymore but thats not the point, if they start far apart (how far apart do they start by the way), then i doubt MC will see snake right away, and thats enough for snake to get off a few rail gun shots, which will stagger him so he cant move out of the way of the MGL-140s 6 grenades, which will do even more damage or knock him down enough for snake to unload more railgun rounds
and youre assuming that the chief will just stand there? infantry doctrine states that if you know that an enemy is in the immediate area but you dont know his location then youre supposed to avoid standing in the open. as soon the fight starts and the chief doesnt know where snake is hes going to immediately bolt to find a less vulnerable area. snake isnt hitting a man running 50 miles an our while laying down. in fact unless snake gets to an elevated position he wont be able to snipe snake at all.
edit- the default distance fighters start out in is i believe 10 meters which is 30 feet. so... john will definitely see him from that distance.
edit- i was horribly wrong. the default distance according to the comic book vs. is 1640 feet. so.. thats a long way.
Originally posted by The Shagg
How can he be staggered by a Rail gun round that we already pointed out he could dodge?
How does he dodge something when he doesnt know where its coming from?
It really depends on the environment, in a flat empty warehouse, MC would probably dominate, but in a desert where at 1000+ feet MC doesnt stand a chance of seeing snake, then snake would have the advantage.
As for Ms Marvel, he doesnt throw the grenades, they are shot out of the mgl140