Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
grenade launchers lob grenades. i dont think he can lob a grenade 1000 feet while laying down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkor_MGL
this one can shoot grenades 375m
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
grenade launchers lob grenades. i dont think he can lob a grenade 1000 feet while laying down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkor_MGL
this one can shoot grenades 375m
thats how far it can launch it first off. second off if you notice the guy is standing up and using a scope.when using a gun theres a difference between the range it can fire and the range that its accurate at. an AK-47 is accurate up to a thousand meters but its pretty much useless past two hundred.
you realize that 1000 feet is roughly 3 football fields right?
itd be a hard shot to make while staning up and concentrating. shooting while laying down would be almost impossible. add in to the fact that john would only be staggered for about a second and a half before he became mobile again and it seems very unlikely that hell be tagged by any grenades.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
thats how far it can launch it first off. second off if you notice the guy is standing up and using a scope.when using a gun theres a difference between the range it can fire and the range that its accurate at. an AK-47 is accurate up to a thousand meters but its pretty much useless past two hundred.you realize that 1000 feet is roughly 3 football fields right?
itd be a hard shot to make while staning up and concentrating. shooting while laying down would be almost impossible. add in to the fact that john would only be staggered for about a second and a half before he became mobile again and it seems very unlikely that hell be tagged by any grenades.
well, with OUR tech the mgl shoots 375+meters, with MGSuniverse tech im pretty sure it can go further, and you can give it an acog if you want in mgs4
Originally posted by NemeBro
Lol no.REX would clock in at 1,000 tons at least, Chief at his most wanked is a class 60, Chief would be flattened.
Still doesn't change the fact that Snake would've lost to Gray Fox if he didn't willingly let snake kick his ass.
Chief grabs a hold of Snake and snaps his neck.
Originally posted by Merc'd
It doesnt matter if chief is the better sniper (which he isnt =/), snake has stealth and all it takes is one shot to knock MCs shield out (although maybe not all of it, a headshot will probably knock a good portion of his shield off)also he has the MGL-140 which he can shoot around 6 rounds into MC while he is staggered by the railgun shot
lol it doesn't matter? so you would want a kid sniping over a trained professional then cause it wouldn't matter ok...
How often do you even see snake snipe? he is more of a combat spy. So I doubt he even bothers with practice on a sniper rifle that much.
It takes alot more than one sniper bullet especially considering the only thing he does have that possibly harm chief is the railgun.
Snake < Chief's Radar haermm
The spartans are just as well trained in stealth also, with his eyesight enhancements I'm sure he could spot snake first also, and a desert is a bad idea for snake unless he has perfect matching camo, & can concentrate in the heat.
Originally posted by SpadeKing
lol it doesn't matter? so you would want a kid sniping over a trained professional then cause it wouldn't matter ok...How often do you even see snake snipe? he is more of a combat spy. So I doubt he even bothers with practice on a sniper rifle that much.
It takes alot more than one sniper bullet especially considering the only thing he does have that possibly harm chief is the railgun.
Snake < Chief's Radar haermm
The spartans are just as well trained in stealth also, with his eyesight enhancements I'm sure he could spot snake first also, and a desert is a bad idea for snake unless he has perfect matching camo, & can concentrate in the heat.
Ok, spartans are trained in stealth, thats great... too bad the solid eye would still easily detect MC, and as you said, hes well trained 'combat spy', im pretty sure he can concentrate in heat...
Originally posted by Merc'd
Ok, spartans are trained in stealth, thats great... too bad the solid eye would still easily detect MC, and as you said, hes well trained 'combat spy', im pretty sure he can concentrate in heat...
what desert missions does he have where he stays outside in the desert the whole time? none? thats what I thought.
well then they're both easily detected unless snake decides to not move at all until chief finds him. also note that chief has an emp built in his suit that could end the eye patch.
Originally posted by SuperLuigi
everything snake does will be seen in slow motion, snake cant damage chief, chief is too fast and strong for snake, chief could easily sit and crush him.
but... he wont see him in the first place...
im just wondering, ive only played halo1 and halo2, but in those i remember if you crouch MC couldnt see you on the radar or something... why is that?
Originally posted by Merc'd
but... he wont see him in the first place...im just wondering, ive only played halo1 and halo2, but in those i remember if you crouch MC couldnt see you on the radar or something... why is that?
cause it's gmeplay? also like how if he gets shot by bullets it actually affects him and how bullets somehow works better than plasma or any of the covenant weapons for that matter when shields are down.
Originally posted by Ms.MarvelAnd has consistent showings of superhuman attributes.
and we both know that snake thrives on pis.the sheer fact that he has the reflexes to keep up with a man who can dodge bullets, but those reflexes disappear when he fights slower opponents show that his abilities are incredibly inconsistent. in fact hes always just fast enough or just strong to beat his current opponent. its pis all of it.
and snakes stealth doesnt matter. john instantly noticed an insvisble elite from twenty feet away and he wasnt even focusin on it. hes spent ten years killing invisible opponents and snipers. i dont care what the mgs games say. going by whats actually shown the people in that game dont know the meaning of the word "stealth". lol. MGS has some of the worst stealth tactics ive ever seen in an "espionage" video game. 😂 it didnt make any sense until the invisibility in the fourth one.
And...Who are we talking about now? He has never shown to be outclassed or matched in speed by anyone slower than Gray Fox, except maybe Liquid, who is basically just Snake but with a British accent. All of it is PIS? I didn't realise consistent showings were PIS. Snake regularly fights and defeats superhuman foes, some of whom make Master Chief look like a complete joke.
I didn't say a word about stealth.
Also, the notion that none of Master Chief will easily dodge a shot from a railgun is kinda funny. Considering the theory behind them allows them to fire a round at speeds of mach 10. Which Chief has not shown reacting to.
That said, Chief is more likely than not winning this fight, but not in a stomp. Probably around 7/10.
Originally posted by NemeBro
And has consistent showings of superhuman attributes.And...Who are we talking about now? He has never shown to be outclassed or matched in speed by anyone slower than Gray Fox, except maybe Liquid, who is basically just Snake but with a British accent. All of it is PIS? I didn't realise consistent showings were PIS. Snake regularly fights and defeats superhuman foes, some of whom make Master Chief look like a complete joke.
besides people like the boss and regularI didn't say a word about stealth.
Also, the notion that none of Master Chief will easily dodge a shot from a railgun is kinda funny. Considering the theory behind them allows them to fire a round at speeds of mach 10. Which Chief has not shown reacting to.
That said, Chief is more likely than not winning this fight, but not in a stomp. Probably around 7/10.
i say 9/10. shrug
Originally posted by Q'AniliaSnake makes Chief look like a joke in that regard. Combat capability as well.
Isn't Master Chief a strategical genius? I can't imagine Snake having an edge in terms of striking an unexpecting Master Chief. If railgun can harm the Chief, I would say the fight can end 9/10 to Master Chief.
You have to take into consideration that the Master Chief has the H.U.D., which tells what direction he was shot from. The Rail Gun couldn't stagger him because things far more powerful than the Rail Gun, have just knocked him over or knocked his shields out. He took a direct hit from a far more advanced Laser Based weapon, and then just shook it, before taking another direct hit.
I'd also like to point out how he's detected and killed invisible enemies, that are far better at stealth than Snake is.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Also, the notion that none of Master Chief will easily dodge a shot from a railgun is kinda funny. Considering the theory behind them allows them to fire a round at speeds of mach 10. Which Chief has not shown reacting to.
need to address this specifically.
the power soruce required to make a railgun shoot its bullet at mach 10 is multiple tons in weight. thats why the only thing we have that can carry railguns on them is massive battleships.
the notion that a gun that has a power source several hundreds times smaller can output the same power is kinda funny.