Originally posted by Incanus
[B]Ah, but who knows the exact circumstances of Glorfindels fight? He also
A.)When confronting the Nine, he was on elvish land, and they were crossing an elvish river.
I never said anything about the Nazgul.
B.)Spirits is the keyword. I have no doubt that the less corrupted ones were orcs king, but there were never billions of maiar to begin with. There was 1 maiar/orc, and you named him. Dragons and their fell spirit, only Glaurung or Ancalagont the Black would have been powerful enough to be Maiar, and they wernt, they carried the essence of Morgoth.
"The least could have been primitive Orcs." Notice Orcs is plural it means multiple. Also the Dragon thing has been debated for a lonf while, but it is impossible to tell.
C.)Dude, you just contradicted yourself,"Right AT THE BALROGS FEET" Meaning the balrog was on it. Sure, there is a little to suggest Gandalf helped it, but no, he didnt break it, the balrog did.
"At that moment Gandalf lifted his staff, and crying aloud he smote the bridge before him. The staff broke asunder and fell from his hand. A blinding sheet of white flame sprang up." Notice the white fire, the breaking staff and the shout.... It was clearly magic aimed at the Balrog's feet.
D.)Glorfindel has no feats either, he is like Revan. We know he did something, but we dont know the circumstances. He could have thrown the spear and weapons. Prove he didnt
He has some impressive feats. All from HoME 2.
"and Glorfindel cut his way out very hardly and with few
men."
"Then some of the hugest of the drakes came on and glared in the
fog, and he must perforce bid the company to go at a run, fighting
on the left at haphazard; but Glorfindel held the rear manfully and
many more of the Golden Flower fell there."
"Now Galdor and Glorfindel held their own despite the surprise of
assault, and many of the Orcs were struck into the abyss"
"
Then Glorfindel leapt forward
upon him and his golden armour gleamed strangely in the moon,
and he hewed at that demon that it leapt again upon a great
boulder and Glorfindel after. Now there was a deadly combat
upon that high rock above the folk; and these, pressed behind and
hindered ahead, were grown so close that well nigh all could see,
yet was it over ere Glorfindel's men could leap to his side. The
ardour of Glorfindel drave that Balrog from point to point, and his
mail fended him from its whip and claw. Now had he beaten a
heavy swinge upon its iron helm, now hewn off the creature's
whip-arm at the elbow. Then sprang the Balrog in the torment of
his pain and fear full at Glorfindel, who stabbed like a dart of a
snake; but he found only a shoulder, and was grappled, and they
swayed to a fall upon the crag-top. Then Glorfindel's left hand
sought a dirk, and this he thrust up that it pierced the Balrog's
belly nigh his own face (for that demon was double his stature);
and it shrieked, and fell backwards from the rock, and falling
clutched Glorfindel's yellow locks beneath his cap, and those
twain fell into the abyss."
"Still do the Eldar say when they see good fighting at great odds
of power against a fury of evil: "Alas! 'Tis Glorfindel and the
Balrog", and their hearts are still sore for that fair one of
the Noldoli."
E.)No the balrog didnt counter spell it, it had a will greater than Gandalfs and stopped him from keeping the door shut on top of breaking it down.
"What it was I cannot guess, but I have never felt such a challenge. The counter-spell was terrible."