Originally posted by SuperLuigi
its not speed its an attack. plain and simple. dante's been impaled before unharmed...edit: i know what extremespeed does im trying to convey that to BT
Extreme speed is not speed? durlaugh
Stop trying to use gameplay mechanics 🙂
And dantes been impaled sure but not by the reaver.
Originally posted by SuperLuigi
everything that is debatable in game vs is based on gameplay. the move like it or not attacks first.
No, a lot of attacks and abilities are based on powers we see in gameplay combined with some logic, your useing gameplay mechanics, by your logic the Flash out of Marvel who can move at ridiculous speeds cannot attack Arcanine befores hes struck. Daft gameplay mechanics.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
How exactly is Kain going to hit Dante? [He's not]
Time powers, TK, or his own dimensional slash which has been the feature of a lot of vids.
yes it is, "always strikes first" is a gameplay mechanic.
Ime stupid yet based on this gameplay mechanic logic Arcanine can hit Sonic the hedge hog at full speed and even the silver surfer moving at full speed before it strikes him, Wally west (flash) at full speed.
And apprently I am stupid? this explains why I just snigger at people like you who call me stupid...
Originally posted by Burning thought
And dantes been impaled sure but not by the reaver.
Lol, like The Reaver would do "so much" to Dante lol.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Raziel then suddenly pops out of his invisiblity and impales Dante, annoying Kain for ruining his finish and they battle to the death, both dieing in a paradox.
Dante can see things that are invisible, so he fails right there. Impales Dante? It does nonething lol, and even if he did "rip out his soul" he still will be alive, mwuhahahahahahaha.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Dante will end up slowing time in his little area and when its run dry and he cant DT (time powers use the same energy) he will be fighting a loseing battle.
That is gameplay/a gameplay mechanic.
EDIT: For the record, Kain has to use blood/souls to charge up and use his Reaver powers, Raziel as well.
Originally posted by Gumachi
That is gameplay/a gameplay mechanic.EDIT: For the record, Kain has to use blood/souls to charge up and use his Reaver powers, Raziel as well.
Not at all, you see what makes your edit void and your statement here is that the LOK system of gaining souls etc does not make sense with the actual lore of the weapons, they drink blood/souls but they never use power in canon, hell the reaver Kain uses in Blood omen 1 is a starved weapon that has eaten no souls yet in-game it drains his magic bar.
In Defiance the blood reaver (not yet soul) requires a few slashes on an opponent for damage (something not canonically possible, nothing in LOK can survive Kains strength or slashes, nothing with blood anyway) and furthermore is made null since there is no canon explanation for it.
To round off my counter, DMC in DMC 3 makes energy canon to Dante, he requires energy/power to remain in his DT state, the same energy that goes down with time. He shows this not only in comon sense (a guy with this power wouldnt run from the saviour in DMC4, or spend almost every cutscene if not all in DMC2/1 as a normal humanoid if he could devil form at the drop of a hat) but also in DMC 3 he shows when he talks to Jester that when he holds the special orb it gives him an incredible amount of power in exchange for slwoly draining his soul. The representation for the power is infnite devil trigger.
Originally posted by Gumachi
Lol, like The Reaver would do "so much" to Dante lol.Dante can see things that are invisible, so he fails right there. Impales Dante? It does nonething lol, and even if he did "rip out his soul" he still will be alive, mwuhahahahahahaha.
Your just trolling now, Dante is carved up by swords and other weapons, the reaver being more powerful than any of these makes him easy target, one slash and he will prob gib, exploding into piecies like most opponents of the reaver in-game anyway. Lorewise he will lose his soul and the god knows how many elements that enchants the reaver will turn his body to dust. He cannot survive the reaver.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Not at all, you see what makes your edit void and your statement here is that the LOK system of gaining souls etc does not make sense with the actual lore of the weapons, they drink blood/souls but they never use power in canon, hell the reaver Kain uses in Blood omen 1 is a starved weapon that has eaten no souls yet in-game it drains his magic bar.In Defiance the blood reaver (not yet soul) requires a few slashes on an opponent for damage (something not canonically possible, nothing in LOK can survive Kains strength or slashes, nothing with blood anyway) and furthermore is made null since there is no canon explanation for it.
To round off my counter, DMC in DMC 3 makes energy canon to Dante, he requires energy/power to remain in his DT state, the same energy that goes down with time. He shows this not only in comon sense (a guy with this power wouldnt run from the saviour in DMC4, or spend almost every cutscene if not all in DMC2/1 as a normal humanoid if he could devil form at the drop of a hat) but also in DMC 3 he shows when he talks to Jester that when he holds the special orb it gives him an incredible amount of power in exchange for slwoly draining his soul. The representation for the power is infnite devil trigger.
Your just trolling now, Dante is carved up by swords and other weapons, the reaver being more powerful than any of these makes him easy target, one slash and he will prob gib, exploding into piecies like most opponents of the reaver in-game anyway. Lorewise he will lose his soul and the god knows how many elements that enchants the reaver will turn his body to dust. He cannot survive the reaver.
Nice job being a hyprocrite(?)
Dante hitting enemies does not make him "gain DT energy." That cutscene is irrevelant.
Dante needing energy to DT is a gameplay mechanic. There is no reason for him to DT at all, and show me when he was about to "run" from Savior. Kain needs energy, lulz. I love how you're going against your own word, kinda. If he needs "energy" then how come -- from your unbiased statement -- his energy doesn't run down when he charges his magic bullets.
Lol, no. Exactly, IN-GAME. Lose his soul, keep breathing and that's it. He nearly got his soul ripped out in the manga, and he has had his soul attacked(and no, i'm not talking about the cutscene in DMC3)...THE REAVER CAN'T DO ANYTHING! None of the reavers will do "anything" to Dante. And Dante can counter the Reavers except for the Earth Reaver. Dante cuts Kain's head off. Kain can't touch Dante, he's too slow.
Originally posted by Gumachi
Nice job being a hyprocrite(?)Dante hitting enemies does not make him "gain DT energy." That cutscene is irrevelant.
Dante needing energy to DT is a gameplay mechanic. There is no reason for him to DT at all, and show me when he was about to "run" from Savior. Kain needs energy, lulz. I love how you're going against your own word, kinda. If he needs "energy" then how come -- from your unbiased statement -- his energy doesn't run down when he charges his magic bullets.
Lol, no. Exactly, IN-GAME. Lose his soul, keep breathing and that's it. He nearly got his soul ripped out in the manga, and he has had his soul attacked(and no, i'm not talking about the cutscene in DMC3)...THE REAVER CAN'T DO ANYTHING! None of the reavers will do "anything" to Dante. And Dante can counter the Reavers except for the Earth Reaver. Dante cuts Kain's head off. Kain can't touch Dante, he's too slow.
Never done so.
😆 that cutscene is irrelvent but those that include things you like is not? silly thing to say, very silly. Its a canon cutscene and Dante required power from the sphere to have infnite DT...obviously typically it is not infnite, therefore he has a powersource, which is taken by the time stop, which has btw not lasted more than about 10 seconds anyway so you have no case.
Run from saviour? youve not seen DMC4 have you? have you not even looked up the vids of saviour where dante is running all over the place? hell he does not go DT the entire fight despite how useful it would be.
I thought his energy does run down when you charge up in DMC4/3, not sure tbh, could be a diffrent type of energy or the energy required is so small that it does not make a diffrence, its not a case against the cutscene.
In-game they explode, just like in-game the effects of most of Dantes powers can be seen. Its actually lore that bodies dissolve after having their souls taken by various LOK spells. And in game or out the weapon will take his soul, he has no resistances. One slash or impalement and Dante is defeated. All of them are more powerful than what Dante can fight and hes not too fast, the guy has not shown beyond typical comprehension speed, according to Nemebro own source, Kain can react, teleport and slash an opponent in less time than it takes Dante to comprehend his situation.
Yeah, i'm not gonna even bother posting.
NOTE: SHOW ME THE VIDEO OF DANTE RUNNING. Oh wait, you can't. You know why? Because your're lying. Because not only was he was about to jackpot the damn thing, BUT HE NEVER WAS RUNNING FROM THE GET-GO! And for the record, Kain ran from The Elder God, since you put it that way.