Best saber duelists

Ok, so I was wondering who everyone thought the top 10 duelists of all time were. I have no list myself, and plz give one quote/feat to explain why they are there.

And, im waiting for some Bane/Kas'im fanboy to come along so we can say he is wrong. Oh, and he has to be a true fanboy.

DEATH TO FANBOYS!!! (of some people)

Do you mean in pure skill? Because if we were to gauge skill, then the likes of General Grievous and his MagnaGuards may be considered for placement, given their intimate knowledge of all forms.

Yes it is skill, but in actual practice, give them a lightsaber then tell them to kill that other guy with a lightsaber and see who wins. They had to have weilded a lightsaber in a canon source however. So yes, Grevious is in, but it is not knowledge, but as I said his skill

ICBA to provide a source, at the moment. But this is my list off the top of my head:

Anoon Bondara
Yoda
Mace Windu
Luke Skywalker
Cin Drallig
Count Dooku
Darth Sidious
Sora Bulq
General Grievous
Darth Maul
Kas'im

Darth Revan?
Darth Vader?
Anakin Skywalker?
Obi-Wan Kenobi?
Kit Fisto?
Agen Kolar?
Saessee Tiin?
Jacen Solo?
Kyle Katarn?

So this just means best Saber-wielding combatant.

Which is little different from every other 'BESTEST TEN' thread evar.

Originally posted by Gideon
ICBA to provide a source, at the moment. But this is my list off the top of my head:

Anoon Bondara
Yoda
Mace Windu
Luke Skywalker
Cin Drallig
Count Dooku
Darth Sidious
Sora Bulq
General Grievous
Darth Maul
Kas'im

Darth Revan?
Darth Vader?
Anakin Skywalker?
Obi-Wan Kenobi?
Kit Fisto?
Agen Kolar?
Saessee Tiin?
Jacen Solo?
Kyle Katarn?

Well if you put Cin Drallig in there, Anakin should be definite too. I'd also put Obi-Wan in for sure, with the almost unbreakable defense.

Ignoring the TC's wishes and the purpose of this thread, the very most technically gifted lightsaber practitioners would be (in no particular order):

Exar Kun: creating an entire lightsaber form from scratch within the time span of six months (that was stated to be an improvement over the lightsaber form he had previously trained in).

Ulic Qel-Doma: Fending off an enraged and highly impressive Jedi while physically past his prime, largely out of practise with a lightsaber and after having been cut off from the Force nine years earlier.

Kas'im: Mastering all seven forms of the lightsaber in under a decade (when it's stated in the Fightsaber article that the average time to master one is twenty years) and reaching a level of ability where he was arguably the greatest swordsmen ever decades later.

Nomi Sunrider: Wielding her husband's lightsaber with the skill of a master the very first time she picked one up.

Darth Bane: Being able to memorise every single move and sequence there was to all seven forms of the double bladed lightsaber (numbering in the hundreds of thousands at the very least), and developing the means to counter every single one of them, in a matter of months.

Nobody else has demonstrated an innate ability with a lightsaber to be listed among the above mentioned five.

1. anakin skywalker
2. luke skywalker
3. mace windu
4. kas'im

in no particular order:

exar kun
obi wan kenobi
yoda
kyle katarn

What's the difference between the two lists?

the first four i consider to be the top 4 duelists of all time but there is still a ranking among them of the 4 kas'im is the weakest of the four mace third weakest etc.

the four below that are the second group of top duelists but there is no hierarchy between them. i dont for example consider obi wan to have more skill then yoda.

Well that's dumb. Anakin is on the 'definite' list but Yoda isn't?

Originally posted by ApC
Ignoring the TC's wishes and the purpose of this thread, the very most technically gifted lightsaber practitioners would be (in no particular order):

Exar Kun: creating an entire lightsaber form from scratch within the time span of six months (that was stated to be an improvement over the lightsaber form he had previously trained in).

Ulic Qel-Doma: Fending off an enraged and highly impressive Jedi while physically past his prime, largely out of practise with a lightsaber and after having been cut off from the Force nine years earlier.

Kas'im: Mastering all seven forms of the lightsaber in under a decade (when it's stated in the Fightsaber article that the average time to master one is twenty years) and reaching a level of ability where he was arguably the greatest swordsmen ever decades later.

Nomi Sunrider: Wielding her husband's lightsaber with the skill of a master the very first time she picked one up.

Darth Bane: Being able to memorise every single move and sequence there was to all seven forms of the double bladed lightsaber (numbering in the hundreds of thousands at the very least), and developing the means to counter every single one of them, in a matter of months.

Nobody else has demonstrated an innate ability with a lightsaber to be listed among the above mentioned five.

Bye Nebaris. Loser.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Well that's dumb. Anakin is on the 'definite' list but Yoda isn't?

hows that dumb? anakin is the most inherently skilled duelist of the mythos. yoda is only where he is because he had 900 years to hone his abilities. if anakin or luke had half that time they would be literally gods without any peer or competition what so ever. id say the same for mace and kas'im.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
hows that dumb? anakin is the most inherently skilled duelist of the mythos. yoda is only where he is because he had 900 years to hone his abilities. if anakin or luke had half that time they would be literally gods without any peer or competition what so ever. id say the same for mace and kas'im.

This is a bullshit statement that lacks any kind of proof. Anakin and Luke are also the most powerful beings in the SW mythos, whereas Yoda is 2nd or 3rd according to midichlorians. There's nothing suggesting Yoda needed 900 years to get to where he is.

theres nothing to suggest hes been at the same level of dueling ability for eight hundred years either. 😐

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
theres nothing to suggest hes been at the same level of dueling ability for eight hundred years either. 😐

Dueling who exactly? Of course there's enough to suggest just that. Seeing as how there wasn't a major saber related conflict since the Dark Jedi Conflict, and that he spent his time teaching lightsaber training to young kids, you'd be wrong.

that would actually support my statement.

id say he would be a better duelist at 800 then at 900 as he would have spent 100 years sparring and meditating and refining his skills. conflict and necessity isnt the only way to better yourself. its just the quickest.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
that would actually support my statement.

id say he would be a better duelist at 800 then at 900 as he would have spent 100 years sparring and meditating and refining his skills. conflict and necessity isnt the only way to better yourself. its just the quickest.

It doesn't support your statement at all. It actually hurts your statement. You said there's no way Yoda would have been as good as he is had it not been for his 800 years. I'm saying that after the Dark Jedi Conflict, it's unlikely that he did anything but occasionally spar.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
It doesn't support your statement at all. It actually hurts your statement. You said there's no way Yoda would have been as good as he is had it not been for his 800 years. I'm saying that after the Dark Jedi Conflict, it's unlikely that he did anything but occasionally spar.

and all im saying is that experience stacks with time thus it makes sense that someones skills would only improve with time unless they sit on their arse and not work on those skills at all.

so are you trying to imply that yoda sat on his ass for 800 years and didnt work on his skills until the clone wars?

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
and all im saying is that experience stacks with time thus it makes sense that someones skills would only improve with time unless they sit on their arse and not work on those skills at all.

so are you trying to imply that yoda sat on his ass for 800 years and didnt work on his skills until the clone wars?

Nope, but you're implying he's been training consistently for 800 years, which begs proof. You're also implying it's only because of his age and experience that he's that good, which begs for more proof.