Zero vs God Kefka

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
He didn't die. Please note "supposedly."

And still you think it's wise to compare Zero inside a space station that crashes and survives, to a battle with the very essence of magic itself that can cast Havoc Wing, Ultima, Heartless Angel, Forsaken, Firaga, Blizzaga and Thundaga and Meteor. The very force that successfully conquered the entire world, plunged it into darkness and erected a tower of immense power that served as his base.

Basically, you think it's wise to compare surviving a crashing space station to battling the god of magic, as any sort of feat to be used in this battle?

Yes. Because the blast destroyed most of the planet.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Yes. Because the blast destroyed most of the planet.

And as I just stated, Kefka reduced the world to ruin and then erected a tower of immense power unlike anything ever seen.

You see the difference there?

The crash destroyed most of the planet, Kefka destroyed the entire planet and then ruled over it, slaying anyone who challenged him with the light of judgement, a beam that destroys entire towns.

And again on top of that we have all of Kefka's boss fight abilites that I've listed numerous times now I won't repeat them.

Tell me, how does Zero defeat a god with this much power?

By hitting him with his sword or shooting him with his Z Buster.

Reduced the world to ruin? I've seen the big laser, that's not the world, and its obviously not as powerful as the blast I described.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
By hitting him with his sword or shooting him with his Z Buster.

Reduced the world to ruin? I've seen the big laser, that's not the world, and its obviously not as powerful as the blast I described.

I never said the beam reduced the world to ruin, only that it destroys people and villages, I think I was quite clear in saying Kefka himself destroyed the world, in which he did.

Again a robot with a sword and a mega buster Vs the god of magic who can kill party members very quickly with attacks like Havoc wing that can be used twice in a row, heartless angel that reduces the entire party to 1 hp, forsaken an "end of the world" style attack, the obligatory Firaga, Blizzaga and Thundaga as well as Meteor, which is exactly what it says on the tin.

Oh also I'm sorry I didn't realise you had seen the beam, see I've played the game and his light of judgement really is that powerful, it kills people and destroys villages.

Also again Kefka can fly as well, I'd like to see Zero fly up to Kefka.

Unless you mean the forsaken attack by "beam" see "beam" is open to interpretation so I wish people would actually name what they are talking about, because beam could imply anything really.

By your very vague terms, do you mean beam as in light of judgement or beam as in forsaken?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
He didn't die. Please note "supposedly."

😐

Originally posted by NemeBro
Okay, he was just torn to pieces and it took a long time to repair himself while he hid.

😐

He was torn to few enough pieces to be able to repair himself.

Unless you mean the forsaken attack by "beam" see "beam" is open to interpretation so I wish people would actually name what they are talking about, because beam could imply anything really.

By your very vague terms, do you mean beam as in light of judgement or beam as in forsaken?

You said Beam, not me.

I never said the beam reduced the world to ruin, only that it destroys people and villages, I think I was quite clear in saying Kefka himself destroyed the world, in which he did.

Again a robot with a sword and a mega buster Vs the god of magic who can kill party members very quickly with attacks like Havoc wing that can be used twice in a row, heartless angel that reduces the entire party to 1 hp, forsaken an "end of the world" style attack, the obligatory Firaga, Blizzaga and Thundaga as well as Meteor, which is exactly what it says on the tin.

Oh also I'm sorry I didn't realise you had seen the beam, see I've played the game and his light of judgement really is that powerful, it kills people and destroys villages.

Also again Kefka can fly as well, I'd like to see Zero fly up to Kefka.

Please tell me how he destroyed the world. If he did it in one shot, okay, cool.

Yay for spells. They wouldn't happen to be avoidable in any way at all, would they?

Cool.

Zero doesn't need to fly.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
By hitting him with his sword or shooting him with his Z Buster.

Reduced the world to ruin? I've seen the big laser, that's not the world, and its obviously not as powerful as the blast I described.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
He was torn to few enough pieces to be able to repair himself.

You said Beam, not me.

Laser = Beam same thing I'm afraid.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Please tell me how he destroyed the world. If he did it in one shot, okay, cool.

Yay for spells. They wouldn't happen to be avoidable in any way at all, would they?

Surely you played the game, I mean you're not coming into this Vs match without ever finishing FF VI and the only reason you have posted in here was because you played a couple of X games, I mean afterall if that was the case you have no basis to valadate your points on.

Actually no some of the spells he casts cannot be avoided or blocked in defense mode. 😐 he can also cast Trine which inflicts Blind and Silence.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Cool.

Zero doesn't need to fly.

True he's to busy being smashed into small pieces by Kefka's godly power.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Okay, he was just torn to pieces and it took a long time to repair himself while he hid.

😐

Truth.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen

Laser = Beam same thing I'm afraid.

Surely you played the game, I mean you're not coming into this Vs match without ever finishing FF VI and the only reason you have posted in here was because you played a couple of X games, I mean afterall if that was the case you have no basis to valadate your points on.

Actually no some of the spells he casts cannot be avoided or blocked in defense mode. 😐 he can also cast Trine which inflicts Blind and Silence.

True he's to busy being smashed into small pieces by Kefka's godly power. [/B]

You're the one who made the entire post about the word "beam" being specific.

I've never so much as touched an FF game. That shouldn't matter though, you can tell me everything Kefka can do.

So which ones can miss and which ones can't? I'd enjoy it if you provided more information instead of attempting to criticize me for not playing the game.

Oh I see what you did there, yeah, that's very clever, congratulations. However, the real reason Zero doesn't need to fly is that he has his Z Buster.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
He was torn to few enough pieces to be able to repair himself.

Also, he "destroyed" the world by rearranging the very landscape, continents, etc., it is more like remaking it.

Originally posted by NemeBro
And was capable of doing nothing else.

Also, he "destroyed" the world by rearranging the very landscape, continents, etc., it is more like remaking it.

He moved to a completely different location before he even began repairing himself. He moved to a location secluded enough that nobody could find him.

So he didn't really destroy the world, he blew up mountains and carved out some new canyons with his big laser.

How fast can the Z buster fire and hit its target? before 3 seconds?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You're the one who made the entire post about the word "beam" being specific.

I've never so much as touched an FF game. That shouldn't matter though, you can tell me everything Kefka can do.

So which ones can miss and which ones can't? I'd enjoy it if you provided more information instead of attempting to criticize me for not playing the game.

Oh I see what you did there, yeah, that's very clever, congratulations. However, the real reason Zero doesn't need to fly is that he has his Z Buster.

Which wouldn't hurt him, I love it when fanboy's can't honestly hope to win yet still fight tooth and claw to do so.

You bought up the beam point first, I corrected you on how powerful it was.

And thanks btw for proving you have no valid opinion in this matter, not touching a final fantasy game, I mean I haven't played VI in a long time but at least I have finished it; I know about the characters.

And I would suggest you go play it as well, if not to get an insight into the characters but for the pure enjoyment of it, it really is a great game.

As for spells, Heartless angel cannot be blocked
Ultima can be but only if Kefka is preparing forsaken, otherwise it cannot be blocked.
I don't believe forsaken can be blocked either, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
If Vengence or Trine are sucessful then unless people are healed, you cannot do anything but be attacked.

Also it is true, Kefka would smash Zero in to small pieces.

Oh and I criticize because you really have no claim to your arguments.

Kefka's being over-hyped for a guy who couldn't handle an FF party, and has no real physical combat or speed feats.

Sure, Kefka's very powerful, but he has to actually hit Zero, who by Acrosurge's estimation moves at multiple machs, and is stronger than Megaman, who'd knock Kefka senseless. 😐 If Zero lands his Zsaber, he wins.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Kefka's being over-hyped for a guy who couldn't handle an FF party, and has no real physical combat or speed feats.

Sure, Kefka's very powerful, but he has to actually hit Zero, who by Acrosurge's estimation moves at multiple machs, and is stronger than Megaman, who'd knock Kefka senseless. 😐 If Zero lands his Zsaber, he wins.

His Havoc wing is a very fast attack; he does have the entire essence of magic absorbed into his being, I would agree with you if this was regular Kefka, but as a god he has so many powerful and varied spells and he did plunge the world into ruin without any real effort for him to realistically loose to Zero.

And he was up against a half human, half esper in Terra, the only other magical being in the world at that point who had her full power unlocked which is what lead to his defeat.

His strength feats sort of speak for the spells he casts, and most of them are pretty devastating, like Ultima or Havoc wing or the light of judgement.

Kefka's powerful in entirely seperate ways to Zero. Zero cou8ld never rearrange a continent, but I doubt Kefka could survive the explosion Moo mentioned earlier, either.

In straihgt one on one combat, my money is on Zero because he is so fast and so strong. I've never seen Kefka take a strike from someone as strong as megaman, who is not as strong as Zero. Megaman supported approx 400-1000 tons over his head.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Which wouldn't hurt him, I love it when fanboy's can't honestly hope to win yet still fight tooth and claw to do so.

You bought up the beam point first, I corrected you on how powerful it was.

And thanks btw for proving you have no valid opinion in this matter, not touching a final fantasy game, I mean I haven't played VI in a long time but at least I have finished it; I know about the characters.

And I would suggest you go play it as well, if not to get an insight into the characters but for the pure enjoyment of it, it really is a great game.

As for spells, Heartless angel cannot be blocked
Ultima can be but only if Kefka is preparing forsaken, otherwise it cannot be blocked.
I don't believe forsaken can be blocked either, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
If Vengence or Trine are sucessful then unless people are healed, you cannot do anything but be attacked.

Also it is true, Kefka would smash Zero in to small pieces.

Oh and I criticize because you really have no claim to your arguments.

You can stop being a prick any time now, thanks. **** dude, I don't even know what you're talking about. You're making statements about shit I haven't even said.

I said I've seen it, and it wasn't anything to compare to the space station crash. From there you essentially called me stupid for trying to debate when I hadn't played the game. Then you made a second post about the specifics of the word "beam." All I did was say I had never used the word beam.

Yeah, I saw that coming. Final Fantasy has never seemed like my type of game, so I've always avoided them.

Blockings, lovely. Do we have anything at all about them being able to be dodged?

Based on what? His big laser that hasn't been shown to produce the kind of force Zero has taken? His attacks that we don't even know can be dodged or not?

I'm going by what you're telling me, and what I know about Zero. If you want to just stop talking then go ahead, otherwise you should really help me out here and stop with the pointless argument.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Kefka's being over-hyped for a guy who couldn't handle an FF party, and has no real physical combat or speed feats.

Sure, Kefka's very powerful, but he has to actually hit Zero, who by Acrosurge's estimation moves at multiple machs, and is stronger than Megaman, who'd knock Kefka senseless. 😐 If Zero lands his Zsaber, he wins.

every final fantasty villian loses to the party, except kuja who killed everybody before dying.