Zero vs God Kefka

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You can stop being a prick any time now, thanks. **** dude, I don't even know what you're talking about. You're making statements about shit I haven't even said.

I said I've seen it, and it wasn't anything to compare to the space station crash. From there you essentially called me stupid for trying to debate when I hadn't played the game. Then you made a second post about the specifics of the word "beam." All I did was say I had never used the word beam.

Yeah, I saw that coming. Final Fantasy has never seemed like my type of game, so I've always avoided them.

Blockings, lovely. Do we have anything at all about them being able to be dodged?

Based on what? His big laser that hasn't been shown to produce the kind of force Zero has taken? His attacks that we don't even know can be dodged or not?

I'm going by what you're telling me, and what I know about Zero. If you want to just stop talking then go ahead, otherwise you should really help me out here and stop with the pointless argument.

Angry fanboy's do make me laugh, grow up, I proved why you can't have a point just like I did Nemisis, don't think I will give you special treatment, if you have never played the game and don't know the character(s) you shouldn't post, simple as.

Now if you don't mind, I'll be talking to someone who is actually civil.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Kefka's powerful in entirely seperate ways to Zero. Zero cou8ld never rearrange a continent, but I doubt Kefka could survive the explosion Moo mentioned earlier, either.

In straihgt one on one combat, my money is on Zero because he is so fast and so strong. I've never seen Kefka take a strike from someone as strong as megaman, who is not as strong as Zero. Megaman supported approx 400-1000 tons over his head.

If Kefka could not indeed survive such an explosion then he would never have survived when he destroyed the world and that was on a much larger scale then the space stations crash, again proven Zero was servilely damaged during the crash and had to be repaired.

What happened to Kefka during the apocalypse, he became a god and gained a substantial increase in power.

Kefka's magic is generally based around long range attacks Ultima has a very large field of attack and casting blind/silence, would blind Zero making him unable to attack or move at optimum speed, Kefka could then cast Vengeance which removes any positive attributes and still retains silence/blind, he could then use Havoc wing twice in succession to cut Zero up into small pieces, use the massive ranged unblockable Ultima or wait and charge up forsaken, kefka could do all of this from the safety of the air.

Strength means nothing if you can't touch Kefka, sure Zero could lift more then Megaman but that does him little good if he can't physically touch Kefka.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Angry fanboy's do make me laugh, grow up, I proved why you can't have a point just like I did Nemisis, don't think I will give you special treatment, if you have never played the game and don't know the character(s) you shouldn't post, simple as.

Now if you don't mind, I'll be talking to someone who is actually civil.

If Kefka could not indeed survive such an explosion then he would never have survived when he destroyed the world and that was on a much larger scale then the space stations crash, again proven Zero was servilely damaged during the crash and had to be repaired.

What happened to Kefka during the apocalypse, he became a god and gained a substantial increase in power.

Kefka's magic is generally based around long range attacks Ultima has a very large field of attack and casting blind/silence, would blind Zero making him unable to attack or move at optimum speed, Kefka could then cast Vengeance which removes any positive attributes and still retains silence/blind, he could then use Havoc wing twice in succession to cut Zero up into small pieces, use the massive ranged unblockable Ultima or wait and charge up forsaken, kefka could do all of this from the safety of the air.

Strength means nothing if you can't touch Kefka, sure Zero could lift more then Megaman but that does him little good if he can't physically touch Kefka.

Alright, you want to be a prick, be a prick. But your point is just so true, because I obviously can't know anything about Kefka until I've played the game. You and everyone else here are obviously too stupid to tell me what I need to know. I mean, that's just how it is, right? And you're the one who started the whole thing of being uncivil. Don't blame the things you start on me.

Tell me something useful now?

Kefka can fly out of Zero's reach before he can use the Z Saber, and can kill him in one shot because being in a space station that crashed is not the same as tanking a direct attack.

That good enough for you?

Z Buster.

Please. Someone explain to me how the laser produces the same force as the space station crash.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Z Buster.

Please. Someone explain to me how the laser produces the same force as the space station crash.

Never said it did.

But Zero was in the space station, so he did not take as much force.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Kefka's being over-hyped for a guy who couldn't handle an FF party, and has no real physical combat or speed feats.

He was handling 12 people at once. He had to deal with:

1. Terra, a powerful magic user with an Esper form makes her something like a demi-goddess. She can also fly pretty fast.

2. Sabin/Mash, a powerful martial artist who shoot out beams, throw a couple of punches a second, and has super strength.

3. Celes, another magic user who can absorb elemental spells with her sword.

4. Umaro, who has incredible strength (even stronger than Sabin/Mash). He can also spit out a blizzard-like beam.

5. Mog, a geomancer.

6. Cyan, a samurai who is supposed to have the strength of 100 men

7. Relm, who can paint pictures of her opponents and make them come to life.

8. Setzer, who took an airship down with a couple of playing cards

9. Shadow, your classic ninja

10. and others

Let's not forget that each of them were powered up by the espers, so every one of them (except Umaro) is a magic user. Sephiroth had it easy.

Ok you guys arguing against Zero's durability feats don't understand the state of disrepair he was ALREADY in when the space station crashed into the earth and then he still managed to put himself back together. As much as I don't like Zero, he's just ridiculous in his own games.

This short video will pretty much tell you everything you need to know about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNW5-apbE54

Edit: Sephiroth didn't have it easy when I had Cait Sith rollin up on him

That's way different from what I thought, likely better for Zero's durability though.

Originally posted by Cyner
Ok you guys arguing against Zero's durability feats don't understand the state of disrepair he was ALREADY in when the space station crashed into the earth and then he still managed to put himself back together. As much as I don't like Zero, he's just ridiculous in his own games.

This short video will pretty much tell you everything you need to know about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNW5-apbE54

Edit: Sephiroth didn't have it easy when I had Cait Sith rollin up on him

So...He was protected by his own ship when it crashed, and later blown to shit in one shot by Sigma?

Lol.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
He was handling 12 people at once. He had to deal with:

1. Terra, a powerful magic user with an Esper form makes her something like a demi-goddess. She can also fly pretty fast.

2. Sabin/Mash, a powerful martial artist who shoot out beams, throw a couple of punches a second, and has super strength.

3. Celes, another magic user who can absorb elemental spells with her sword.

4. Umaro, who has incredible strength (even stronger than Sabin/Mash). He can also spit out a blizzard-like beam.

5. Mog, a geomancer.

6. Cyan, a samurai who is supposed to have the strength of 100 men

7. Relm, who can paint pictures of her opponents and make them come to life.

8. Setzer, who took an airship down with a couple of playing cards

9. Shadow, your classic ninja

10. and others

Let's not forget that each of them were powered up by the espers, so every one of them (except Umaro) is a magic user. Sephiroth had it easy.

Exactly.

Originally posted by NemeBro
.......That's it?

So...He was protected by his own ship when it crashed, and later blown to shit in one shot by Sigma?

Lol.

I find his hopeless reasoning's for Kefkas defeat laughable as well.

I'd humor him if this wasn't so damn stupid, that and he wasn't such a dick, but alas I don't expect many fanboys to be civil.

Originally posted by NemeBro
.......That's it?

So...He was protected by his own ship when it crashed, and later blown to shit in one shot by Sigma?

Lol.

lolno

He crashed the ship into the space station then proceeded to have an epic battle with Sigma where at the end of which he was blasted through. X thinking that Zero was dead, left the space station before it hit the earth because they had done all they could to stop it then it crashed and somehow Zero was still alive enough to put himself back together.

Originally posted by NemeBro
.......That's it?

So...He was protected by his own ship when it crashed, and later blown to shit in one shot by Sigma?

Lol.

Are you ****ing serious? He was at the epicenter of an explosion that would have destroyed the planet had he not stopped it. From tanking that explosion he beats Sigma 1 on 1 and then survives with his torso and one arm left. Surviving like that, he gets shot through the chest and manages to finish of Sigma anyway. Then he STILL survives all of that to come back in X6.

OH.

So he was one-shot by Sigma BEFORE it exploded?

Lol.

Are you catching something from BT?

He was, with a single shot from Sigma, taken down, to the point where Magaman was convinced he was dead.

Also, take a look at the crashed satellite, does it really look in THAT bad shape to you? What it destroyed on impact is irrelevant, it is not in too bad a shape.

He had already defeated Sigma to a point where he was as broke down as the Zero you saw at the end was. That was Sigma being Sigma and not being able to take being defeated, so he tries to kill X and Zero with his last shot. Zero still took the colony explosion and defeated Sigma. Which order it happened in, I'm not sure.

Zero blew up the colony in space so that it would save the Earth, it still hit Earth but a lot less of it.