dark phoenix v galactus

Started by Mr Master17 pages
Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Xplosive

I didn't say anything against you in that quote. He only said that there wasn't mentioned cause and it really wasn't in that page where it was said blown into billion pieces.

[B]

I never hated you. We had more times argue over Phoenix. But that is only one debate, one character.

I never really argued against you (mostly I agreed), and I liked your pots, learned many from you about cosmology, start reading them, but it when it comes to Phoenix it is different. We don't agree.

As you see I've even said I will read about that Necrom to see what is really behind it. There was time I thought PF was the most powerful. Then you came, I start reading and I don't think that anymore. But I still think PF defeats Galactus. PF is inconsistent, but Galactus is maybe even worse in that department.
And I probably hold PF little higher than you do.

When you put your post, scans about Necrom stuff, I will read it, think it and see what is really true. If I see it isn't, I will accept it as I always have.


👆 Fair enuff, and written like a true gentleman.

id369 The Man of Tomorrow

Originally posted by Mr Master
Repetitive gibberish.

Repetitive gibberish.

See, easy to post gibberish.

Originally posted by Mr Master

I never saw another character from any mainstream title in AoA,
aside from X-Men.

I did, I suggest you keep looking.

Originally posted by Mr Master

😐

Oh wow, hey let me continue to ignore what was said plain English. And refute it because it was not published outside an X-Title.

Do you have any idea, just how many feats and events can be dismissed by this type of reasoning?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Gobbledygook!

Repetitive gibberish.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Anytime you ready to debate the Necrom lies you polluted your thread with,
let me know.

durlaugh

Originally posted by Mr Master
Which makes no difference concerning 616 being erased.

Don’t try to stray from the topic.

So your not going to even acknowledge AoA is parallel reality and not a diverge one? Or that 616 was destroyed and with its space was occupied by AoA?

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by id369

Repetitive gibberish.

See, easy to post gibberish.


Same ol' same ol' ...
Originally posted by id369

I did, I suggest you keep looking.


yea, just like you saw Jean with 616 in her hands,
and just like you saw Necrom supposedly collapsing the Multiverse with teh Phoenix powah,
oh wait no, wit a fraction of teh Phoenix powah! durlaugh
Originally posted by id369

Oh wow, hey let me continue to ignore what was said plain English. And refute it because it was not published outside an X-Title.

Do you have any idea, just how many feats and events can be dismissed by this type of reasoning?

Repetitive gibberish.


More gibberish indeed.
Originally posted by id369

Don’t try to stray from the topic.

So your not going to even acknowledge AoA is parallel reality and not a diverge one? Or that 616 was destroyed and with its space was occupied by AoA?


Keep trying,
but until you explain how the FF/Hulk/Thor/Spiderman/Avengers
and every other mainstream title completely ignored AoA,
even though it supposedly affected (replaced) the 616 reality,
you gots nothing.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by -Pr-

and we don't know that the EMP caused the billion pieces thing.

and as someone so rightfully mentioned,

there's nothing in the issue that states it was blown in to the pieces.


Really, is that what someone said?

A Planetary EMP,
which evidently is enough to shatter the almighty PF! 🙂

......................................................................................

Xorn, killing Jean Grey ... and exploding the actual Phoenix Force itself!

......................................................................................

On Panel: (the Force exploding takes place off-panel but is confirmed by the Force itself)

......................................................................................

Beast remembers:

......................................................................................

Bio: (official Marvel Handbooks corroborate/confirm the On/off Panel truth)

......................................................................................

(From the Official Marvel Universe Handbook 2005)

"Jean Grey was Killed by an Electromagnetic Pulse,

this shattered the Force into Billions of pieces"

......................................................................................

(from WC Phoenix - Jean Grey's official 2008 bio)

"Jean opposed faux Magneto but was killed by a lethal EMP
that shattered the Phoenix Force into Billions of pieces"

......................................................................................

This incident involving Xorn & the Phoenix Force
was actually recalled by the embodiment of the Phoenix Force itself in "Endsong"

"I thought I was Dead, in a Billion Billion pieces"

=============================

(I'm figuring I can't be "possibly wrong" ... ey PR?

Anywho ...

Haters come through and do what they do, (not you PR)
I pass by and simply post the truth with proof,
that's Mr Master for ya.

* Stomping the Necrom nonsense is next,
then comes AoA,
but right now I gotta work out yall,
so wait for it.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr Master
😐

Which is exactly why I said, it was stated [b]on panel,
by the Phoenix Force itself no less,
and THEN it was corroborated/confirmed as a fact in the Phoenix bio Handbooks (both of em)[/B]

No its not. its noever said "blown into a billion billion pieces" on panel. just that it was in a billion billion pieces.

Never once says "blown" on panel. in regards to this.

You're being quite hypocritical with your use of handbooks, which is one of the resons most people ignore them.

Unless you think that spiderman can be hit by a fastball, the handbooks are mostly bupkis.

galactusischere Apocalypse..begins!

Originally posted by Creshosk
"blown into a billion billion pieces" on panel. just that it was in a billion billion pieces.

Never once says "blown" on panel. in regards to this.

lol you know they are the same thing..

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by galactusischere
lol you know they are the same thing..
Nope.

It's never stated on panel.

And since I'm not foolish enough to believe that spider-man can be hit by a 95 mph object I ignore the handbooks as rubbish.

Of course we could get Mr Master to tell us his opinion on the avengers handbook that mentions the JLAvengers events.

That bit of hypocrisy is amusing.

galactusischere Apocalypse..begins!

Originally posted by Creshosk
Nope.

It's never stated on panel.

And since I'm not foolish enough to believe that spider-man can be hit by a 95 mph object I ignore the handbooks as rubbish.

Of course we could get Mr Master to tell us his opinion on the avengers handbook that mentions the JLAvengers events.

That bit of hypocrisy is amusing.

so your basically saying that getting blow into billion billion pieces is diffrent than being in billion billion pieces??

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by galactusischere
so your basically saying that getting blow into billion billion pieces is diffrent than being in billion billion pieces??
If the cause is different yes.

Unless you're going to tell me that its logical for something to be blown up by a harmless source of energy that it had been previously exposed to a larger amount of than the given incident?

I ate a star! Oops, I'm blown up by something far far far far far far far far far less than that.

Yeah.. right. and Spiderman can be hit by things moving at 95 mph...

Bull. Shit.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"
Originally posted by galactusischere
so your basically saying that getting blown into billion billion pieces is diff rent than being in billion billion pieces??

Not that I care to get involved into the discussion, but you can't see the difference ?

Mr Master Junior Member

😐 How the 'F' do you think the PF ended up being in a billion, billion pieces?

Especially when the Force is being depicted in this next arc
that follows continuity
immediately after Jean was killed by the EMP.

Especially after the freakin official Marvel Handbook bios of the Phoenix
of 2005 & 2008 both confirm,
it was the EMP!

God, what has happened to this place.

Originally posted by Creshosk

No its not. its noever said "blown into a billion billion pieces" on panel.

just that it was in a billion billion pieces.


durlaugh ... I mean, is this clown serious? ...

Goodness, he is ... facepalm

galactusischere Apocalypse..begins!

Originally posted by Mr Master
😆 How the 'F' do you think the PF ended up being in a billion, billion pieces?

Especially after the freakin official Marvel Handbook bios of the Phoenix
of 2005 & 2008 both confirm,
it was the EMP!

God, what has happened to this place.

durlaugh ... I mean, is this clown serious? ...

Goodness, he is ... facepalm

👆

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr Master
durlaugh ... I mean, is this clown serious? ...

Goodness, he is ... facepalm

Reported for member bashing.

Do you have any idea how much electromagnetic energy is produced when a star goes nova?

Its the equivalent of about a billion regular stars.

Do you have any idea how much electromagnetic energy a regular star produces?

I'll give you a hint. Its a lot more than "planetary levels."

Did you know that magnetic waves are hamrless? They pass through the human body all the time, with no effect.

In fact that's how MRI's get the magnetic waves through you. they just bombard you with them. they pass right thrrough and the machines are designed to intrpets the data of the waves after they come back out of you.

She eats a star, is bombarded by the super nova and you expect me to believe that something a hell of a lot less is going to blow her apart?

Because the same source that said that spider man gets hit by things moving at 95 mph told you so?

Bullshit.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Creshosk

Reported for member bashing.


I reported you for bashing me across this thread,
and nothing was done, therefore I have no fear of stating the fact,
that for you to deny that the Force was shattered into Billions of pieces by the EMP,
as clownish,
and if you continue to argue on the behalf of that type of intransigence
you shouldn't be taken serious anymore,
not that your credibility was far from that crashing point anyway.
Originally posted by Creshosk

Do you have any idea how much electromagnetic energy is produced when a star goes nova?

Its the equivalent of about a billion regular stars.

Do you have any idea how much electromagnetic energy a regular star produces?

I'll give you a hint. Its a lot more than "planetary levels."
Did you know that magnetic waves are hamrless? They pass through the human body all the time, with no effect.

In fact that's how MRI's get the magnetic waves through you. they just bombard you with them. they pass right thrrough and the machines are designed to intrpets the data of the waves after they come back out of you.

She eats a star, is bombarded by the super nova and you expect me to believe that something a hell of a lot less is going to blow her apart?

Because the same source that said that spider man gets hit by things moving at 95 mph told you so?

Bullshit.


This is just a load of inconsequential gibberish in the shadow of denial.

Therefore, since it has nothing to do with the on panel depicted/handbook confirmed truth,
it's nothing more than meaningless drivel.

When you produce a single source from Marvel comics,
directly disputing the undeniable evidence,
you'l be acknowledged again,
otherwise,
you're better off just hating/bashing/trolling.

Creshosk Senior Member
Originally posted by Mr Master
*bullshit*

Little science lesson for you:

http://www.k12.wa.us/edtech/athena/curric/space/sun/sunearth.html

You think that the earth is bigger than the sun?

And you call me clownish?

Supernova>Planetary EMP

She's fueled by the energy from stars, that includes electromagnetic energy.

The handbooks are and always have been bullshit.

It's never stated on panel that she was blown apart. just that she was in a billion billion pieces.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Creshosk

Little science lesson for you:

http://www.k12.wa.us/edtech/athena/curric/space/sun/sunearth.html

You think that the earth is bigger than the sun?

And you call me clownish?

Supernova>Planetary EMP

She's fueled by the energy from stars, that includes electromagnetic energy.

The handbooks are and always have been bullshit.


More gibberish, that does not any way shape or form dispute the on panel depiction,
that was later corroborated/confirmed in 3 different official Marvel Handbooks.

Yea, I'm posting the Xorn bio too,
same thing is again confirmed:

The Phoenix Force was blown into Billions of pieces by an EMP.

Originally posted by Creshosk

It's never stated on panel that she was blown apart.

just that she was in a billion billion pieces.


facepalm
Originally posted by Mr Master

😐 How the 'F' do you think the PF ended up being in a billion, billion pieces?

Especially when the Force is being depicted in this next arc
that follows continuity
immediately after Jean was killed by the EMP.

Especially after the freakin official Marvel Handbook bios of the Phoenix
of 2005 & 2008 both confirm,
it was the EMP!

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr Master
More gibberish, that does not any way shape or form dispute the on panel depiction,
that was later corroborated/confirmed in 3 different official Marvel Handbooks.

Yea, I'm posting the Xorn bio too,
same thing is again confirmed:

The Phoenix Force was blown into Billions of pieces by an EMP.

facepalm

This is from "Secret War: From The Files of Nick Fury", This is coming from one of the greatest military minds on the planet(Nick Fury) if this is what he thinks of certain characters "power levels", then IMO it holds as much water as anything on the topic.

Hawkeye: Power Level 4 (With Pym Particles: Power Level 7)
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Hawkeye.jpg?t=1251405409

Falcon: Power Level 6
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/FalconandIronMan.jpg?t=1251405440

Punisher: Power Level 6+
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Punisher.jpg?t=1251405465

Shadowcat: Power Level 7
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/ShadowcatandThing.jpg?t=1251405491

Daredevil: Power Level 7
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Daredevil.jpg?t=1251405518

Cyclops: Power Level 7
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/CyclopsandDocSamson.jpg?t=1251405541

Black Widow: Power Level 7
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/BlackWidow.jpg?t=1251405558

Daisy Johnson: Power Level 7
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/DaisyJohnson.jpg?t=1251405578

War Machine: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/WarMachine.jpg?t=1251405603

Spider-Woman: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Spider-Woman.jpg?t=1251405638

Spider-Man: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Spider-Man.jpg?t=1251405663

Thing: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/ShadowcatandThing.jpg?t=1251405687

Mystique: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/MystiqueandPurpleMan.jpg?t=1251405708

Ms. Marvel: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/MsMarvel.jpg?t=1251405726

Doc Samson: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/CyclopsandDocSamson.jpg?t=1251405763

Captain America: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/CaptainAmerica.jpg?t=1251405784

Luke Cage: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/LukeCage001.jpg?t=1251405807

Iron Man: Power Level 9
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/FalconandIronMan.jpg?t=1251405831

Wolverine: Power Level 9
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Wolverine.jpg?t=1251405855

Purple Man: Power Level 10
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/MystiqueandPurpleMan.jpg?t=1251405877

Hulk: Power Level 10+
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Hulk.jpg?t=1251405898

Sentry: Power Level 10+
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Sentry.jpg?t=1251405921

Because everyone knows if its in a biotype source its canon.

So wolverine is more powerful than either ms Marvel or Warmachine?

Or you know not.

You seem to think that anything that doesn't agree with you is gibberish. Rather than What you're defending being PIS.

You don't understand the event in question. And being a phoenix hater you willingly accept this feat that ignores prior canon. Based on what?

Bio sources?

Hawkeye: Power Level 4 (With Pym Particles: Power Level 7)
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Hawkeye.jpg?t=1251405409

Falcon: Power Level 6
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/FalconandIronMan.jpg?t=1251405440

Punisher: Power Level 6+
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Punisher.jpg?t=1251405465

Shadowcat: Power Level 7
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/ShadowcatandThing.jpg?t=1251405491

Daredevil: Power Level 7
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Daredevil.jpg?t=1251405518

Cyclops: Power Level 7
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/CyclopsandDocSamson.jpg?t=1251405541

Black Widow: Power Level 7
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/BlackWidow.jpg?t=1251405558

Daisy Johnson: Power Level 7
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/DaisyJohnson.jpg?t=1251405578

War Machine: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/WarMachine.jpg?t=1251405603

Spider-Woman: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Spider-Woman.jpg?t=1251405638

Spider-Man: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Spider-Man.jpg?t=1251405663

Thing: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/ShadowcatandThing.jpg?t=1251405687

Mystique: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/MystiqueandPurpleMan.jpg?t=1251405708

Ms. Marvel: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/MsMarvel.jpg?t=1251405726

Doc Samson: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/CyclopsandDocSamson.jpg?t=1251405763

Captain America: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/CaptainAmerica.jpg?t=1251405784

Luke Cage: Power Level 8
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/LukeCage001.jpg?t=1251405807

Iron Man: Power Level 9
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/FalconandIronMan.jpg?t=1251405831

Wolverine: Power Level 9
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Wolverine.jpg?t=1251405855

Purple Man: Power Level 10
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/MystiqueandPurpleMan.jpg?t=1251405877

Hulk: Power Level 10+
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Hulk.jpg?t=1251405898

Sentry: Power Level 10+
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/wolfpack86/Sentry.jpg?t=1251405921

Wolverine is more powerful than war machine! Good to know.. he's on par with Iron man. Awesome!

Mr Master Junior Member

dur

Those aren't official primary Marvel Handbooks that explain define character histories in-depths,
those are silly grading systems from the Nick files... so please just ... stfu2 ...

Your posts are not gibberish because they disagree with an off-hand opinion of mine.

Your posts are gibberish because they disagree with an official canon on panel occurrence,
that was literally corroborated/confirmed in official Marvel Handbooks (3 of them)

Handbooks aren't perfect, but it nailed this one tight.

Again, you don't like it, call Marvel and complain,
but no amount of unsupported/off-topic/real world gibberish will change the facts.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

I lol'd at that list.

Purple Man > Iron Man

Wolverine > War Machine

Luke Cage = Doctor Samson

Luke Cage = War Machine

I thought it was hilarious when I first read it.

Also, we should take Handbooks with a grain of salt. They are pretty useful if you want an overview of a character's background, but other than that, they are flawed.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr Master
stfu2

Your posts are not gibberish because they disagree with an off-hand opinion of mine.

Your posts are gibberish because they disagree with an official canon on panel occurrence,[/vb]

Nope. not on panel.

Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]that was literally corroborated/confirmed in official Marvel Handbooks (3 of them)
Bio sources are shit.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Again, you don't like it, call Marvel and complain,
why bother? Not everything that's depicted is accepted on these forums.. so you're rather breaking the forum rules. With this SmvsFL type showing.

Originally posted by Mr Master
but no amount of unsupported/off-topic/real world gibberish will change the facts.
And now you're trolling. Reported.

Face facts. Its never stated on panel. and "bio sources" are shit.

But thanks for arguing that Wolverine is more powerful than war machine. 👆