Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Hulk does get tired. He got tired when he fought Cain for the first time.
The first time... six hundred f*cking years ago. Hulk hasn't said "Hulk tired" in almost five hundred f*cking years. Not to mention Hulk won that fight anyway, more or less. Hulk's gone hours in stalemates with Thor, and you're saying he gets f*cking tired?
The longer the fight goes on, Hulk gets more durable, faster, much stronger, faster HF, more energy.
Swamp Thing takes this early, or never.
Originally posted by Master Court
The first time... six hundred f*cking years ago. Hulk hasn't said "Hulk tired" in almost five hundred f*cking years. Not to mention Hulk won that fight anyway, more or less. Hulk's gone hours in stalemates with Thor, and you're saying he gets f*cking tired?The longer the fight goes on, Hulk gets more durable, faster, much stronger, faster HF, more energy.
Swamp Thing takes this early, or never.
No actually Marvel didn't exist six hundred years ago. Don't believe that was the first or last time Hulk got tired. Also Hulk won thanks to the X-Men. ST takes this regardless.
Also I was just wondering but can you make one post without using the F word or any other words of curse?
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
No actually Marvel didn't exist six hundred years ago. Don't believe that was the first or last time Hulk got tired. Also Hulk won thanks to the X-Men. ST takes this regardless.Also I was just wondering but can you make one post without using the F word or any other words of curse?
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Marvel started in ancient Sumeria, where Stan Lee was worshiped as Stanleenon, God of Looking The Same Now As He Did Fifteen Years Ago.
And I obviously pointed out the hundred year gap between Juggernaut's first fight with Hulk and when Hulk stopped getting tired. And, again, Hulk won more or less. You could call it unintentional strategy.
Lastly, since around that time, Hulk's only ever said "Hulk tired" after he's already beaten the crap out of everyone and made his way to a quiet spot in the woods or the desert. And he only gets tired because he's calming down and reverting to Banner. Current Hulk(when they bring him back, that is) does not get tired.
Originally posted by Master Court
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Marvel started in ancient Sumeria, where Stan Lee was worshiped as Stanleenon, God of Looking The Same Now As He Did Fifteen Years Ago.And I obviously pointed out the hundred year gap between Juggernaut's first fight with Hulk and when Hulk stopped getting tired. And, again, Hulk won more or less. You could call it unintentional strategy.
Lastly, since around that time, Hulk's only ever said "Hulk tired" after he's already beaten the crap out of everyone and made his way to a quiet spot in the woods or the desert. And he only gets tired because he's calming down and reverting to Banner. Current Hulk(when they bring him back, that is) does not get tired.
They didn't even fight a hundred years ago and he only won due to the X-Men helping. You don't have to say you're tired to be tired.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
They didn't even fight a hundred years ago and he only won due to the X-Men helping. You don't have to say you're tired to be tired.
They fought a hundred years ago when what was left of the "Stanleenon Spirit Catcher" cult summoned Hulk and Juggernaut to fight in the tomb of Stanleenon in hopes of generating enough energy to revive Stanleenon, thus reviving Marvel in the process.
And, in comics, if they don't say they're tired, if the narrator doesn't say they're tired, if they're still fighting, they're not tired. Hulk and Thor were both pouring buckets of sweat in their test-of-strength, but neither were tired. Signs of effort are not signs of fatigue.
And he didn't win because the X-Men helped. He tosses Juggernaut into the mountain when Juggernaut's helmet pops off. Then Hulk just leaves. That's the end of the fight. THEN the X-Men come along and drop Juggernaut. It's not like the X-Men showed up midway and started attacking Juggernaut.
Originally posted by Master Court
They fought a hundred years ago when what was left of the "Stanleenon Spirit Catcher" cult summoned Hulk and Juggernaut to fight in the tomb of Stanleenon in hopes of generating enough energy to revive Stanleenon, thus reviving Marvel in the process.And, in comics, if they don't say they're tired, if the narrator doesn't say they're tired, if they're still fighting, they're not tired. Hulk and Thor were both pouring buckets of sweat in their test-of-strength, but neither were tired. Signs of effort are not signs of fatigue.
And he didn't win because the X-Men helped. He tosses Juggernaut into the mountain when Juggernaut's helmet pops off. Then Hulk just leaves. That's the end of the fight. THEN the X-Men come along and drop Juggernaut. It's not like the X-Men showed up midway and started attacking Juggernaut.
I would laugh if that was funny.
You don't have say you're tired to be tired.
Cain is fine and he's not that far away from Hulk. That's not a BFR victory. He was more than ready to continue the fight.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I would laugh if that was funny.You don't have say you're tired to be tired.
Cain is fine and he's not that far away from Hulk. That's not a BFR victory. He was more than ready to continue the fight.
What's funny is how f*cking slow you were to even realize I wasn't being literal. Damn, man! Anyway, you've been fun enough for one night. My d*ck will stay hard for another eight hours on this thread alone.
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Nobody won that fight the x-men showing up just at the moment juggs helmet gets pulled off out of nowhere seems like a convenient way for them to end that fight without anyone losing.
That's pretty much what I said. I'll just say "agreed", and leave it at that.
And to refine my answer on the VS, ST wins probably 5/10 including early KO's and potential good performances later, but with the remainder being stalemates as opposed to losses. But if it's a "yes or no" kinda thing, considering ST would ever be the only winner in this fight, the flat answer is Swamp Thing wins.
if swamp thing wanted to physically own hulk, he could just manifest an edenwood form again - of which, if you're unfamiliar, was sufficient to easily own a high-level demon [one that even a prepped constantine feared he could not defeat.]
and if swampy didn't want to go to all that trouble, he could simply BFR hulk ftw.
either way, swamp thing wins. easy-peasy.
Originally posted by Galan007
if swamp thing wanted to physically own hulk, he could just manifest an edenwood form again - of which, if you're unfamiliar, was sufficient to easily own a high-level demon [one that even a prepped constantine feared he could not defeat.]and if swampy didn't want to go to all that trouble, he could simply BFR hulk ftw.
either way, swamp thing wins. easy-peasy.
Actually, I'm not familiar with the edenwood form. I'd like to hear a little more about it. What kind of threat was the demon? Strength, powers, that kind of thing. And did the edenwood form exhibit any kind gaugeable strength showings to say it was significantly stronger than the norm? Really, I'm taking your word for it, but I'd still like to know for reference.
I don't like BFR, but of course it's always an option for people of certain strength. I mean, Rhino could BFR Hulk if he played his cards right. It really only depends on the weight of the BFR-ee, and not all that much on the strength of the BFR-er. But, really, it's not like any kind of BFR could stop the Hulk, unless he got lost trying to find the battlefield.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Swamp Thing could remove his soul, or create thousands of huge plants inside of his body, or decay his flesh, etc.
The soul thing is a cheap play, like saying Hulk could thunderclap the battlefield clean of plant life[EDIT: As a BFR or something]. It's possible, but where's the fun? As for the other stuff, it's nothing the Hulk couldn't heal from. See "Hulk: The End" and "Planet Hulk".
Originally posted by Galan007Fanboy
if swamp thing wanted to physically own hulk, he could just manifest an edenwood form again - of which, if you're unfamiliar, was sufficient to easily own a high-level demon [one that even a prepped constantine feared he could not defeat.]and if swampy didn't want to go to all that trouble, he could simply BFR hulk ftw.
either way, swamp thing wins. easy-peasy.
Hulk smash!
Originally posted by Master Courtwhen i said swamp thing could BFR him, i meant he could literally teleport hulk's physical being, and/or his consciousness, to a completely different dimension, with a gesture.
I don't like BFR, but of course it's always an option for people of certain strength. I mean, Rhino could BFR Hulk if he played his cards right. It really only depends on the weight of the BFR-ee, and not all that much on the strength of the BFR-er. But, really, it's not like any kind of BFR could stop the Hulk, unless he got lost trying to find the battlefield.