Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That was their first fight. And actually Odin stripped him of half of his power. I don't recall strength even being mentioned when Odin did the deed. That might be the reason why he seemed so much weaker. I mean if his only half as strong the difference was rather large. Shit, Hercules casually kicked the same truck away.
Lol.
You really seem to struggle with Thor, context, reading comprehension, and critical thinking...
Originally posted by Spire
Lol.You really seem to struggle with Thor, context, reading comprehension, and critical thinking...
Heh, you're one to talk. You and you're hypocritical biased Superman shit. Seriously, according to you, Thor lifting infinite weight is hyperbole, but when it's Superman it's legit. Why is it legit? Because it's Superman.
And I'm pretty sure it was power that was stated when Odin depowered Thor through Seidring and not strength. I believe power, godly power etc. mentioned multiple times. In Thor #128 I do recall strength being mentioned once as it returned but that's all.
Anyways, the gap between Thor at half power and Thor at full power seems to be very significant, more so than it should be. But whatever. His power was cut in half, and after taking a beating from Hercules he could barely lift a large tractor. Big whoop. A Thor weakened by gas held up a 60 plus Skyscraper while, Superman at one point was barely able to hold up a pile of rubble just over 80 tons as I recall.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Heh, you're one to talk. You and you're hypocritical biased Superman shit. Seriously, according to you, Thor lifting infinite weight is hyperbole, but when it's Superman it's legit. Why is it legit? Because it's Superman.And I'm pretty sure it was power that was stated when Odin depowered Thor through Seidring and not strength. I believe power, godly power etc. mentioned multiple times. In Thor #128 I do recall strength being mentioned once as it returned but that's all.
Anyways, the gap between Thor at half power and Thor at full power seems to be very significant, more so than it should be. But whatever. His power was cut in half, and after taking a beating from Hercules he could barely lift a large tractor. Big whoop. A Thor weakened by gas held up a 60 plus Skyscraper.
You bringing up Superman=automatic fail.
I was mainly laughing at your comment:
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That might be the reason why he seemed so much weaker. I mean if his only half as strong the difference was rather large. Shit, Hercules casually kicked the same truck away.
It's obvious now that context, reading comprehension, and critical thinking is your Achilles heel when it comes to Thor.
Strength is mentioned like 3 times after Thor is zapped. Even from his own mouth. He then uses his enchanted hammer(or as you call it: a blunt piece of metal) to brace himself.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And actually Odin stripped him of half of his power. I don't recall strength even being mentioned when Odin did the deed.
Riiiiiight, because its super logical to think that Thor being halved in power, should still have his full strength.
Originally posted by Spire
You bringing up Superman=automatic fail.I was mainly laughing at your comment:
Really? You always seemed to have a hard on for Superman, and I just brought it up.
What's to laugh at?
Originally posted by Spire
It's obvious now that context, reading comprehension, and critical thinking is your Achilles heel when it comes to Thor.Strength is mentioned like 3 times after Thor is zapped. Even from his own mouth. He then uses his enchanted hammer(or as you call it: a blunt piece of metal) to brace himself.
Clearly.
You are right Thor does mention that his strength has waned (Goes on to mention in the same breath that only Odin could half his godly power I believe.), when his unable to support the building Hercules tossed at him (Even with his hammer, or blunt force object as that was what he was using at as at the time.).
Originally posted by Spire
Riiiiiight, because its super logical to think that Thor being halved in power, should still have his full strength.
Lmao what? How in the hell did you come to the conclusion that I think Thor should have been at full strength? That's far from what I think should be the case. It was explicitly stated that Thor's power was halved. I'm assuming strength falls into that category as well. He should have been nowhere near full strength which he wasn't.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Really? You always seemed to have a hard on for Superman, and I just brought it up.
Why bring him up?
I mean I'm not calling you an extremely weak debater suffering from butthurt.
I'm just... you know, inquiring.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Clearly.You are right
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No I'm not. And I also don't think whether or not Hercules sucks depends on whether or not his stronger than Thor.
Lies! If Hercules is not stronger than Thor then why like him?
This is like liking a weaker less powered version of a character.
Thor should be enough.
Thor is more versatile
Thor's character is deeper, etc.
Originally posted by h1a8
Lies! If Hercules is not stronger than Thor then why like him?
This is like liking a weaker less powered version of a character.Thor should be enough.
Thor is more versatile
Thor's character is deeper, etc.
What the ****? Since when does liking or not liking a character depend on where he ranks against a rival?
You're a moron.
Originally posted by h1a8
I believe Herc is stronger, not by a whole lot though.
Stop making baseless statements. Then again this is you....
Hercules and Thor have always been shown to be equals in their personal encounters. Outside of them Thor has kicked it up a notch. Heck, Armak one shotted Hercules and Thor went toe to toe with him.
Originally posted by Spire
Why bring him up?I mean I'm not calling you an extremely weak debater suffering from butthurt.
I'm just... you know, inquiring.
Because you seem to have a hard on for Superman and that example was to illustrate even he has low showings if you were in some way trying to pass off the Thor incident as a low showing for Thor which seemed to be the case from your initial post although I don't know why you would....
Originally posted by Spire
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Here you are lecturing me on how horrible my reading comprehension and shit is, but at the same time need me to right "/sarcasm" for you to detect it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What the ****? Since when does liking or not liking a character depend on where he ranks against a rival?You're a moron.
No need to call names, especially when you could be wrong. Seriously.
You easily misunderstood. I'm not saying that one shouldn't like a character because he/she is weaker. I'm saying that one shouldn't like a character when there exist a pareto optimal character for that character.
This means that if there is a character who can do everything another character can do but more and has a deeper character/storyline then there is no reason to like the latter character.
I like Spider-man although he is weaker than most because his unique power set and character (there is no pareto optimal for him).
Originally posted by h1a8
No need to call names, especially when you could be wrong. Seriously.You easily misunderstood. I'm not saying that one shouldn't like a character because he/she is weaker. I'm saying that one shouldn't like a character when there exist a pareto optimal character for that character.
This means that if there is a character who can do everything another character can do but more and has a deeper character/storyline then there is no reason to like the latter character.
I like Spider-man although he is weaker than most because his unique power set and character (there is no pareto optimal for him).
You're offended? 😆
Well sorry.
Hercules and Thor have two completely different personalities. This has even been explored in the recent encounter of Thor/Hercules in his current run and how people view Hercules as the screw up and Thor is the hero. They explored how Hercules is viewed as the underdog, an inferior version of Thor, in terms of not only power but character traits. And this same arc showed that although they are different, each have their own appeal.
Just because Thor exists in all his glory, doesn't mean you can't enjoy Hercules. Seriously, just read Paks current run. It's awesome and hilarious. Hercules is a great character in his own right, and this has nothing to do with how he relates to Thor. Yes Thor is a deeper character than Hercules, but that's always been the case. Hercules is simply more flawed than Thor and more shallow. His a cheating, womanizing, murdering bastard of a person but that's one of the reasons people love him. This has also been explored by Pak. Especially during the Ares and Hercules encounter.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Because you seem to have a hard on for Superman and that example was to illustrate even he has low showings if you were in some way trying to pass off the Thor incident as a low showing for Thor which seemed to be the case from your initial post although I don't know why you would....
You still didn't 'answer' as to why you brought Superman up. The topic was context, reading comprehension and critical thinking being your Achilles heel when it comes to Thor. Now I'm starting to leaning towards you just being an extremely weak debater with a butthurt problem.
Also, on another note it's quite funny how when you bring up Superman, all you succeed in doing is certifying your Achilles heel.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You're offended? 😆Well sorry.
Hercules and Thor have two completely different personalities. This has even been explored in the recent encounter of Thor/Hercules in his current run and how people view Hercules as the screw up and Thor is the hero. They explored how Hercules is viewed as the underdog, an inferior version of Thor, in terms of not only power but character traits. And this same arc showed that although they are different, each have their own appeal.
Just because Thor exists in all his glory, doesn't mean you can't enjoy Hercules. Seriously, just read Paks current run. It's awesome and hilarious. Hercules is a great character in his own right, and this has nothing to do with how he relates to Thor. Yes Thor is a deeper character than Hercules, but that's always been the case. Hercules is simply more flawed than Thor and more shallow. His a cheating, womanizing, murdering bastard of a person but that's one of the reasons people love him. This has also been explored by Pak. Especially during the Ares and Hercules encounter.
Well I stand corrected. Didn't know this about Hercules. I guess he is sufficiently different from Thor, enough to be interesting in and like.
Originally posted by h1a8Y like a weaker character?
Lies! If Hercules is not stronger than Thor then why like him?
This is like liking a weaker less powered version of a character.Thor should be enough.
Thor is more versatile
Thor's character is deeper, etc.
Or quicksilver when you have makkari or the runner
Originally posted by Spire
You still didn't 'answer' as to why you brought Superman up. The topic was context, reading comprehension and critical thinking being your Achilles heel when it comes to Thor. Now I'm starting to leaning towards you just being an extremely weak debater with a butthurt problem.Also, on another note it's quite funny how when you bring up Superman, all you succeed in doing is certifying your Achilles heel.
Eh? I just did. The discussion started after your initial post. Seeing as how you love attempting to low ball Thor at times, I thought you were trying to pass it off as some low showing. I simply mentioned Clark to show that even he has low showings.
What. Does. Not. Compute?
Why on Earth would I be butt hurt over this shit?