Scans from rage of Olympus = fail!
Jarvis himself during the entire recounting says there's inconsistencies with the story... Like first off Jarvis wasn't there... And as for the entire story that Hercules tends to overexaggerate...
So on panel evidence was provided that shows that the onpanel evidence proves nothing either way.
Originally posted by rotiart
Scans from rage of Olympus = fail!Jarvis himself during the entire recounting says there's inconsistencies with the story... Like first off Jarvis wasn't there... And as for the entire story that Hercules tends to overexaggerate...
So on panel evidence was provided that shows that the onpanel evidence proves nothing either way.
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I'm obviously joking with those scans.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Eh? I just did. The discussion started after your initial post. Seeing as how you love attempting to low ball Thor at times, I thought you were trying to pass it off as some low showing. I simply mentioned Clark to show that even he has low showings.What. Does. Not. Compute?
Why on Earth would I be butt hurt over this shit?
I missed this.
Anyways, that's not a 'real answer'.
Basically, what I'm looking for is for you to state Superman has nothing to do with anything, and you only feel the need to bring him up in an attempt to start crap and distract because you're a very weak debater.
Even your 'excuse' fails, because if I wanted to lowball Thor I wouldn't have mentioned Odin taking away his powers.
Also son, if I wanted to lowball Thor it wouldn't start or stop at Thor not lifting a tractor.
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Originally posted by Spire
I missed this.Anyways, that's not a 'real answer'.
Basically, what I'm looking for is for you to state Superman has nothing to do with anything, and you only feel the need to bring him up in an attempt to start crap and distract because you're a very weak debater.
Even your 'excuse' fails, because if I wanted to lowball Thor I wouldn't have mentioned Odin taking away his powers.
Also son, if I wanted to lowball Thor it wouldn't start or stop at Thor not lifting a tractor.
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Really, why not?
Do you have reading comprehension problems? You're initial post, seemed as if you were trying to low ball Thor (Which wasn't bad at all considering.....). So I brought up Superman to show that Superman also has low showings. What, are you dense? What's so damn to understand?
Knowing that it's you and your idiocy, along with the way you phrased it, it seemed to me that yo were attempting to low ball him.
Originally posted by rotiart
Y like a weaker character?
Spiderman is like superman when he was first created... Strength durable but weaker... Why bother
why also bother with a character like Luke cage when hulk is aroundOr quicksilver when you have makkari or the runner
You easily misunderstood. I'm not saying that one shouldn't like a character because he/she is weaker. I'm saying that one shouldn't like a character when there exist a pareto optimal character for that character.This means that if there is a character who can do everything another character can do but more and has a deeper character/storyline then there is no reason to like the latter character.
I like Spider-man although he is weaker than most because his unique power set and character (there is no pareto optimal for him).
Pareto optimal encompasses exact power set and deepness of character.
Colossus is not as strong or as durable as Thor but he is made out of metal. This difference alone makes him immune to pareto optimal.
Also to add, this only applies to characters in the same tier. So Luke Cage and Hulk are in different tiers (and different power sets at that) thus it doesn't apply to Power Man. Herc and Thor are in the same tier (supposedly) so it definitely applies here.
Originally posted by h1a8
Pareto optimal encompasses [b]exact power set and deepness of character.
Colossus is not as strong or as durable as Thor but he is made out of metal. This difference alone makes him immune to pareto optimal.Also to add, this only applies to characters in the same tier. So Luke Cage and Hulk are in different tiers (and different power sets at that) thus it doesn't apply to Power Man. Herc and Thor are in the same tier (supposedly) so it definitely applies here. [/B]
Okay... so why the hell have superman when martian manhunter has almost the same power set... more powers... and less or a weakness.
lets get rid of superman.
both are aliens who now call earth home.
both have super speed... flight.. strength in the 100 ton category...
but martian also has telepathy on top.
Originally posted by rotiartWhy would they do that? They already got rid of the Martian.
Okay... so why the hell have superman when martian manhunter has almost the same power set... more powers... and less or a weakness.
lets get rid of superman.
both are aliens who now call earth home.
both have super speed... flight.. strength in the 100 ton category...
but martian also has telepathy on top.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Really, why not?Do you have reading comprehension problems? You're initial post, seemed as if you were trying to low ball Thor (Which wasn't bad at all considering.....). So I brought up Superman to show that Superman also has low showings. What, are you dense? What's so damn to understand?
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Heh, you're one to talk. You and you're hypocritical biased Superman shit. Seriously, according to you, Thor lifting infinite weight is hyperbole, but when it's Superman it's legit. Why is it legit? Because it's Superman.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Knowing that it's you and your idiocy, along with the way you phrased it, it seemed to me that yo were attempting to low ball him.
So, in other words your Achilles' heel got the best of you again.
Originally posted by rotiart
Okay... so why the hell have superman when martian manhunter has almost the same power set... more powers... and less or a weakness.
lets get rid of superman.
both are aliens who now call earth home.
both have super speed... flight.. strength in the 100 ton category...
but martian also has telepathy on top.
MM is not pareto optimal. Superman is stronger, faster, super breath, better fighter, has different weaknesses, etc.
Originally posted by rotiart
Look you are just reaching for excuses at this point. Retract your obvious bias statements and be done with it. There are plenty of reasons more than one character exists with similar powers.And your answer is still bs when you read you replies to the rest of this thread
Find me a character where there exists another character who has the exact same power set but more and is a deeper character and I'll guarantee you than the former character is an indifferent one (not hated but certainly not liked very much).
Talk that bs if you like but the truth is the truth, Ruth.
Originally posted by h1a8
Find me a character where there exists another character who has the exact same power set but more and is a deeper character and I'll guarantee you than the former character is an indifferent one (not hated but certainly not liked very much).Talk that bs if you like but the truth is the truth, Ruth.
exact power set ...
and thats why you kept talking so much about thor and hercules
when hercules doesn't have half the powers thor does...
seriously
take your bias out of here
and read your own posts jack
Originally posted by rotiart
exact power set ...and thats why you kept talking so much about thor and hercules
when hercules doesn't have half the powers thor does...seriously
take your bias out of here
and read your own posts jack
I meant proper subset. Hercules is a proper subset of Thor. Thor has every power Hercules has but more.