Originally posted by FistOfThe North
refer to thread title.don't care if it's sarcasm the subtlty's there.
Another example. If you go on youtube, the under this overblown case, the word "ni**er" is used alot in reference to K. West in posts.
So, it's relevant.
And Robtard had Eminem done it it would've been stupid if it was about race cause they're both white, aren't they..
And again how has Kanye or what has he said or done him to be called a racist..
Not here. No one had popped off like that in here.
If you look hard enough for ignorant twats on the net, you'll find them...but that doesnt justify spreading hate via race cards.
I personally think that people calling him "Ni**er" are as stupid, hateful and small minded as their anti-white brain dead cretin counterparts..
Originally posted by dadudemon
That particular point you were responding to was a concurrence with what I was saying about how easy it is to make some techno music.
indeed, you said something like, if I knew how to make techno music, I would realize how easy it was, and about how seeing something in Reason or FLS would "demystify" music.
My response was that I had been making techno for some time, indicating that I do know just how difficult it is. Maybe I should have been more explicit. I don't think it is easy to make any kind of music. It is equally easy to mess around with music programs on a computer with some success as it is to mess around on an organ or writing sheet and come up with something, be it quickly or not.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Try to keep up. He's not referring to the same comment. One is about techno, and that one is about my comment on it being easy to make a hip hop song in an hour.
no
in fact, from my own musical ability, it is significantly more difficult to write hip hop than the styles of electronic that I do. 4/4 driving kicks or mashed up breakbeat rhythms, no problem, a basic funky bassline with a simple kick/snare, can't make it happen for some reason.
Originally posted by dadudemon
The music portion, it would take less than 30 minutes, if I had some practice. Writing several verses of rhyme and a chorus? Nah, that'd be easy as hell. But mixing the tracks and actually producing the track, yeah, that'd take a while as making it sound professional takes quite a while and I do NOT have the time for that. That'd take longer than making the music and recording the rap tracks and putting them together.So, yeah, subtract the lyrics out of the equation, and leave just the "music" portion of it and there's my point.
lol:
"subtract the lyrics, and the layering, and any production, or mastering, or post production...
but other than that, I could do it
with practice"
most studio programs have REALLY steep learning curves...
A sample of public opinion From 2 years ago:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080321142936AAPWEZd
from 5 months ago
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090416081014AAKZxNq
Is Kanye West Racist because he disproves of the current trend of A.P.M.I.A. Aggressively Promoted Manufactured Industry Artists.
Are all those people who left critical comments Racist?
From Personal experience Kanye West Has Strong Feelings over the way A&R operates in signing, promoting and developing new and emerging recording artists.
This doesn't make him Racist But it does indicate he needs to let go of the past or failing that Commit to Work on Anger Management.
The industry is inherently corrupt, exploitative, and as a general trend puts out a product that is far inferior to most independent or quasi-independent labels. Kanye pointing that out is nothing new or unique. People have been doing that for years. Courtney Love posted a surprisingly coherent 10 page essay on the topic 6 years ago.
Kanye's not racist. He's just an ill mannered, narcissistic ass hole that uses a cheap studio trick as a crutch in all his songs.
Originally posted by inimalist
indeed, you said something like, if I knew how to make techno music, I would realize how easy it was, and about how seeing something in Reason or FLS would "demystify" music.My response was that I had been making techno for some time, indicating that I do know just how difficult it is. Maybe I should have been more explicit. I don't think it is easy to make any kind of music. It is equally easy to mess around with music programs on a computer with some success as it is to mess around on an organ or writing sheet and come up with something, be it quickly or not.
no
in fact, from my own musical ability, it is significantly more difficult to write hip hop than the styles of electronic that I do. 4/4 driving kicks or mashed up breakbeat rhythms, no problem, a basic funky bassline with a simple kick/snare, can't make it happen for some reason.
lol:
"subtract the lyrics, and the layering, and any production, or mastering, or post production...
but other than that, I could do it
with practice"
most studio programs have REALLY steep learning curves...
Yep. The later editions of Cubase are a c**t to get into.
Very frustrating when all you wanna do is get your shit down.
he doesnt hate white people. anytime a black person says anything about racism in this country it is automatically them hating white people. this thread was made why? because he interrupted the white girls speech? beyonce should have won female video if she won video of the year. racism. thats all there is to it.
Originally posted by SuperLuigi
he doesnt hate white people. anytime a black person says anything about racism in this country it is automatically them hating white people. this thread was made why? because he interrupted the white girls speech? beyonce should have won female video if she won video of the year. racism. thats all there is to it.
Or maybe they both had good videos and both deserved awards so the judges or whomever decides these things decided to give them both awards and gave beyonce the better one because she deserved it just a little bit more?
Originally posted by shiv
A sample of public opinion From 2 years ago:http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080321142936AAPWEZd
from 5 months ago
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090416081014AAKZxNq
Is Kanye West Racist because he disproves of the current trend of A.P.M.I.A. Aggressively Promoted Manufactured Industry Artists.
Are all those people who left critical comments Racist?
From Personal experience Kanye West Has Strong Feelings over the way A&R operates in signing, promoting and developing new and emerging recording artists.
This doesn't make him Racist But it does indicate he needs to let go of the past or failing that Commit to Work on Anger Management.
Beyonce is as, if not more, of a record company produced star than this white girl.
Promoting Beyonce is not being critical of mainstream music, lol, her garbage is worse than most.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Or maybe they both had good videos and both deserved awards so the judges or whomever decides these things decided to give them both awards and gave beyonce the better one because she deserved it just a little bit more?
I agree with you in principle, but you are forgetting that the VMA are a ceremony to celebrate bad videos, not good ones. So what you meant to say is "Beyonce had the worse video, so they gave her the worse award"
Originally posted by inimalist
Beyonce is as, if not more, of a record company produced star than this white girl.Promoting Beyonce is not being critical of mainstream music, lol, her garbage is worse than most.
The Key factor here is the credibility of the Award.
The Video Recognised by The VMA organisation as the best of the year was By Beyonce.
Last time I checked Beyonce Is a Female.
Kanye went through a simmillar experience. How to dismantle an atomic bomb was released in 2004 and was voted "Album of the Year" in 2006.
Seriously It took U2's album 2 years to put together 8 grammy nominations. Kanye West's Album picked Up All 8 nominations in 1.
What happened to West before, namely Industry Politics contaminating the voting for his Album Is very likely a contributing factor in his reaction at this year's awards to what most neutral observers would call a clearly rigged result.
Originally posted by inimalist
I'm with you BardsVMA is a celebrity worship fap-off
I feel this way about most award shows, especially the Oscars. Which is odd, since I'm a devout movie-lover.
Hey, let's award people for acting some more, who already make disgusting amounts of money for putting on make-up.
Originally posted by inimalist
indeed, you said something like, if I knew how to make techno music, I would realize how easy it was, and about how seeing something in Reason or FLS would "demystify" music.My response was that I had been making techno for some time, indicating that I do know just how difficult it is. Maybe I should have been more explicit. I don't think it is easy to make any kind of music. It is equally easy to mess around with music programs on a computer with some success as it is to mess around on an organ or writing sheet and come up with something, be it quickly or not.
I thoroughly disagree, then. I think those programs take the talent out of music other than knowing how to use the software and having a less than average ear. 😬
Edit- I read that part about sheet music. On that, I thoroughly disagree with, as well. I can't read music, much less write the music. To me, that would be VERY difficult to bust out a tune on the organ and write it down.
Originally posted by inimalist
noin fact, from my own musical ability, it is significantly more difficult to write hip hop than the styles of electronic that I do. 4/4 driving kicks or mashed up breakbeat rhythms, no problem, a basic funky bassline with a simple kick/snare, can't make it happen for some reason.
That's very strange. Hip hop music IS the easiest music to make, because it's so simple.
In all honesty, I think making crappy techno with pre-mixed tracks and beats is harder, despite it being easy even for a beginner. It would take 2 minutes to show someone how to do it, as well, so it's not hard to learn how to do it, as long as the person can count and has listened to music before.
Hip hop...it's even worse. But you do have to have a slight sense of timing when you drop in the sound for each "instrument", however, even THAT can be corrected. The software these days can auto-correct your beats and sounds FOR you...just click a couple of options and it auto-corrects it to be perfectly timed. Takes the talent out of music, that.
Originally posted by inimalist
most studio programs have REALLY steep learning curves...
I agree. There's just so much stuff you can do with those programs that it's ridiculous. I want to take a course or two...or three on some of those programs to really learn how to use them. Then, I could bust out mediocre tracks in 5 minutes instead of 45. awesome I don't do music very often anymore, as I don't have time.
Kanye West's music, admittedly, is more complex than other artists in the same genre, though, he doesn't make his music...just like every other mainstream artists these days. (That's an exaggeration, of course.)
Originally posted by dadudemon
I thoroughly disagree, then. I think those programs take the talent out of music other than knowing how to use the software and having a less than average ear. 😬
So, wait, what you are saying is that Bardock was the one keeping up with the conversation and dadudemon the one being wrong and not following?
Interesting. mmm