Originally posted by darthgoober
They might be in continuity, but I think there's still a big difference between Pre and Post Crisis GL's. All of Wonder Man's old feats are still in continuity too which means that he should technically equal/exceed Thor in strength, but I seriously doubt that anyone considers that to be the case in regards to his current character.
Which is funny, because a lot of Thor's feats that people use in the vs. forum take place 30+ years ago.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's because Thor hasn't been shown to be on different level than he was 30 years ago, and the Marvel Universe wasn't rebooted.
What a coincidence, considering Post Crisis GL feats are on the same level as Pre Crisis ones, and GL continuity hasn't been rebooted either.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When has Wonder Man shown to be equal or exceed Thor?Even back in the day, I seem to recall that it seemed Wonder Man might be near Thor level. But exceed?
I should re-read those Old Avenger's issues.
That's why I hate reading Wonder Man anymore, everytime he get's an "upgrade" he still ends up being less powerful than he was previously.
Originally posted by batdude123
What a coincidence, considering Post Crisis GL feats are on the same level as Pre Crisis ones, and GL continuity hasn't been rebooted either.
Post Crisis Green Lantern's seemed to be written at a level lower than their Pre-Crisis counterparts.
I know that apparently the Green Lantern's were not affected by the change. NEver said they were.
Originally posted by batdude123
Which is funny, because a lot of Thor's feats that people use in the vs. forum take place 30+ years ago.
Originally posted by batdude123
What a coincidence, considering Post Crisis GL feats are on the same level as Pre Crisis ones, and GL continuity hasn't been rebooted either.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Post Crisis Green Lantern's seemed to be written at a level lower than their Pre-Crisis counterparts.I know that apparently the Green Lantern's were not affected by the change. NEver said they were.
I agree. Hal back in the day rarely had trouble from absorption attacks and the like. Now it seems that a lot of people could absorb the rings easily and that goes for all Lanterns.
Even back in the day, Hal was able to restrain Pre-Crisis Superman. Plus had a lot of other exotic abilities that I don't see Hal doing currently.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Post Crisis Green Lantern's seemed to be written at a level lower than their Pre-Crisis counterparts.I know that apparently the Green Lantern's were not affected by the change. NEver said they were.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Thor still pulls off the same kinds of feats. If GL does the same then that's fine, but I've seen people point out that some Pre Crisis GL feats have no real parallel in more recent years. I'm not saying those people are right mind you, I'm just pointing out what lots of people say.
Some of the best GL feats have happened Post Crisis.
If Thor still pulls off the "same type of feats," then why are people exclusively using his old school feats to justify their arguments?
I'm just saying, you can't be using these double standards.
Originally posted by batdude123
Some of the best GL feats have happened Post Crisis.If Thor still pulls off the "same type of feats," then why are people exclusively using his old school feats to justify their arguments?
I'm just saying, you can't be using these double standards.
Originally posted by darthgoober
When Thor and Wonder Man fought for the Grandmaster and Mistress Death WM got the better of him H2H(but was then put down by the hammer). In a later fight with Arkon, Arkon said that WM was hitting even harder than Thor and WM thought something to the effect of "I knew I was stronger last time we fought"(in regards to the Grandmaster/Death fight). Then in the 90's around the time of the Infinity Crusade, his power started fluctuating with his peaks being higher than they ever were previously and when his powers stabilized it was said that he was even stronger than those power surges he'd been going through. Then his strength was supposedly upgraded again during his "ionic form" and it may have even gotten upgraded again after his control got better(I'm a bit fuzzy on that period though).That's why I hate reading Wonder Man anymore, everytime he get's an "upgrade" he still ends up being less powerful than he was previously.
Edge? Thor attacks Wonder Man, and is matching his strength with a single arm. He then pins Wonder Man down. Wonder Man, then throws him off and hits him twice. Thor is unharmed, and takes him out with Mjolnir. That doesn't prove him to exceed Thor. It's been made pretty clear, that Thor is above Wonder Man.
Arkon the Magnificent from the Avenger's appearance? And Arkon knows how much strength truly has and how hard Thor truly hits right? Plus All he said, was that never have I felt such a blow, not even from the Mighty Thor.
Wonder Man said, he felt that he was stronger Thor? I recall something like that, and I'll take your word for it, as it's been awhile. If we go by Wonder Man's statements, then Thor is on another level than he is. His admitted it plenty of times. Even back in the day.
Shit if we go by Wonder Man statements, Thor can shrug off blows by someone who apparently hits as hard/harder than Count Nefaria.
I remember once Wonder Man's I believe said his fist can hit as hard as Thor's hammer simply because he turned a gravel rock to pieces easily. Not disrespecting Wonder Man, but it seemed pretty much evident that Thor is his superior a great deal of time.
Apparently he was getting stronger as time went on apparently. It first it seemed alright but then in the last few years, he clearly has been written weaker.
Wonder Man really needs more respect especially currently. His one underrated character.