doomsday vs world war hulk

Originally posted by h1a8
I totally disagree with Hulk holding up that mountain (or portion of it). That is considered PIS since it is so far out of average range it's ridiculous. Hulk wasn't even that mad when he did that. Before the 90's comics are far more inconsistent.

It's not PIS. Hulk has since done far more impressive feats than that. Things on the planet/galaxy scale. The only reason he's not out juggling planets is because he can't fly. However, he one-shotted an asteroid twice the size of the Earth. That easily dwarfs a simple mountain. Now, I don't know who the Hell you've been talking to, but I've never heard anyone say that lifting that little ol' mountain was PIS for The Incredible HULK. I have, however, heard absolutely sh*t arguments before from people who have no idea what they are talking about. I once lurked on a debate of Grundy vs Hulk; and on one of the posts someone actually said, verbatim, "Well Hulk only lifts tanks and Grundy fights Superman so Grundy wins." Hard to believe, but that's what someone actually posted. But we all know that often enough, people just hate certain characters so much that they strongly wish they didn't/couldn't do certain things or beat certain people that ups the game of those characters. So, look, there comes a point where it can't be called "PIS" anymore. When Hulk first came out, sure, he wasn't lifting mountains. But the fact is, he was just never challenged to. He was, however, consistently going toe-to-toe with top-tiers with proven top-tier strength feats like Namor, Hercules, Juggernaut, and the man himself, Thor. And when Hulk stalemated Thor for over an hour in a pure test-of-strength, that immediately solidified Hulk's place in the top-tier league. I mean, after all, would it be PIS if Thor was the one that held up the mountain? Not to mention, Stan Lee created Hulk with the intention that he'd be the "strongest one there is". So as the character developed, they obviously decided to get bolder and more creative with ways to develop their definition of "top-tiers" and character development. So while it may have been an outrageous sight back then, by today's standards it a relatively low feat for Hulk. Which makes any "PIS" tag it ever had totally void and completely irrelevant.

Originally posted by h1a8
No!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm a firm believer in the combo to ko principle.

It's already been proven Doomsday is fast. It hasn't been proven that he's too fast for Hulk. Hulk has incredibly underestimated reflexes. He's been able to even catch the Silver Surfer while on his board, he's leveled countless speedsters, he's dodged attacks from fast top-tiers like Thor and Namor. He's dodged artillery shells and missiles(not that either would hurt him), he's even caught some before. Or punched it or something. Old issues, fuzzy memories. In any case, you have to prove that Doomsday is too fast for Hulk to defend against. Or prove that Hulk isn't fast enough to hit Doomsday. Just because we've seen a hundred different characters sh*tting their pants and saying "Oh, Doomsday is faster than all-f*ck!" doesn't necessarily make it so. It's fine that all the characters gave props to Doomsday. However, they were all inconsistent. And it's not like Doomsday said "This is my top speed" and a cop happened to be near by with a speed-meter to tell us all in plain f*cking English how fast he moves. But we know you don't have to be as fast as Flash, or even Superman, to hit Superman. And given that Superman has hit Doomsday, obviously, we can assume it's possible you don't have to be as fast as Superman to hit Doomsday. With Hulk's lightning reflexes and mach speed punching, I say it's utterly ridiculous to think Doomsday is gonna walk in wearing trunks and gloves and give Hulk the ol' one-two and score a first round KO.

Hmmm, one of my fav villains and one of my fav heroes. Stalemate. 😄

Originally posted by D-Block
WWH would beat DOS Doomsday

Originally posted by h1a8
Doesn't matter which one is faster. Dos DD has easily enough speed feats to put him far far far above any version of Hulk is speed.

Why do you people choose to remain in silly land? Do you all hate logic land? DOS DD is clearly faster than WW Hulk by a large margin and clearly strong enough to hurt him easily.

DOS Superman is still one of the fastest beings in comic history. He is able to pick bullets out of the air like they're standing still. Remember DD is fighting Hulk here not Superman or Sentry. You must know that there exist bias in someone's own comic. This is why many characters don't use their speed when fighting the star of the comic. Sentry has shown some speed feats but they seem to never translate into the battles. Just look at his confrontations against Iron Man, Ultron, WW Hulk, Hercules, etc. So he is a poor example.

Is DOS DD able to hurt Hulk? Only an idiot wouldn't think so. Did you read WW Hulk? Wolverine sliced through Hulk like a hot knife through butter. I don't where you get this barely cut his skin garbage from. I mean DOS Superman was able to lift at least billions of tons yet DOS DD was stronger. This is proven by DD overpowering Superman when they grappled, and by CM supposedly being Superman's physical equal wasn't able to inflict the damage per punch that DOS DD was able to. Also D.C. themselves rate DOS DD's strength as 110 on a scale where Superman is the standard 100. I don't know about you but someone who can [b]easily hurt someone that can lift more than billions of tons, make bullets richocet off at the same speed they were fired, tank nuclear bombs, etc. can definitely hurt WW Hulk, especially with those bony protrusions. This is a no brainer. [/B]

Wasnt doomsday arm trapped in a stray jacket half of his 1st appearance?

Didnt it take doomsday a while to punch through a metal door?

His strength was no where NEAR enough to even make this a challenge.

Almost forgot, wasnt maxima whipping doomsday a** until Superman got in the way?

This is a none fight.

Now show me a speed feat instead of using hyperbole because if thats the case, if you want to use hyperbole then Hulk is>>>>>Doomsday in every character and should be able to just touch doomsday and make him explode.

😆

Originally posted by h1a8
Ok that's better. I agree with you now. I believe DOS DD's reflexes are no where near on par with his attack speed. And if he didn't throw an attack first WWH could hit him and beat him. But know that DOS DD's attack speed>>>WWH's Attack Speed. That is why I say he will hit Hulk first which would win the fight. Otherwise WW Hulk wins evertime.

He is much weaker than hulk so even if you were right, even if he'll hit him four times in the beginning of the fight, he should still get stomped. If wwh grabs him, the fight is done and I'm pretty sure wwh could get ahold of him 10 times.

Originally posted by Spire
😆

What was so funny? 😕

Are you laughing at the hyperbole comment?

Let me bring up a couple of things that has been stated and shown by hulk.

Punched through a time stream.

Stated by the beyonder of having infinite strength.

Stated hundreds of times as being able to destroy a planet.

Stated as being one of the most powerful beings that exist.

Stated as being the immovable, unstoppable force.

Stated from Surfer and Thor of having super speed.

Had thanos question a fight against him and was compared to CHAMPION with the power gem. The same champion that destroyed a planet with a punch.

Shall I keep going.

Originally posted by carver9
What was so funny? 😕

Are you laughing at the hyperbole comment?

Let me bring up a couple of things that has been stated and shown by hulk.

Punched through a time stream.

Stated by the beyonder of having infinite strength.

Stated hundreds of times as being able to destroy a planet.

Stated as being one of the most powerful beings that exist.

Stated as being the immovable, unstoppable force.

Stated from Surfer and Thor of having super speed.

Had thanos question a fight against him and was compared to CHAMPION with the power gem. The same champion that destroyed a planet with a punch.

Shall I keep going.

Originally posted by carver9
What was so funny? 😕

Your post, obviously.

Also, what are you talking about?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Do so, you only prove how bad you are at arguing

OMG, you didnt get the point of my post, the point of my post is that if you want to use hyperbole as a argument then hulk has plenty on his side.

I'm not saying that its true, I'm saying that its not good to use hyperbole.

Originally posted by Spire
Your post, obviously.

Also, what are you talking about?

I was responding to someone post about hyperbole, I wasnt saying that the things that I was saying were true because some of it is not. It was an example for petes sake. 🙁

Originally posted by carver9
I was responding to someone post about hyperbole, I wasnt saying that the things that I was saying were true because some of it is not. It was an example for petes sake. 🙁

Why are you talking about hyperbole?

Originally posted by Spire
Why are you talking about hyperbole?

Nothing, just forget it, it was something that was discussed a while back.

As to this thread, WWH wins this almost every time.

Originally posted by carver9
Nothing, just forget it, it was something that was discussed a while back.

As to this thread, WWH wins this almost every time against DOS DD.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by carver9
OMG, you didnt get the point of my post, the point of my post is that if you want to use hyperbole as a argument then hulk has plenty on his side.

I'm not saying that its true, I'm saying that its not good to use hyperbole.

Same goes for DD.

As for the thread. DD loses very nicely. WWH is just a better brick

Originally posted by xJLxKing
😉 Obviously, anyone who read it knows if it is. Who would believe those statements?

Same goes for DD.

As for the thread. DD loses very nicely. WWH is just a better brick

You like messing with me dont you? I wish I knew spanish. 😠

Originally posted by carver9
You like messing with me dont you? I wish I knew spanish. 😠

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Why Spanish?

I just want to learn it and I can curse you out and you wouldnt even know it. 💃 😉

Originally posted by Master Court
It's not PIS. Hulk has since done far more impressive feats than that. Things on the planet/galaxy scale. The only reason he's not out juggling planets is because he can't fly. However, he one-shotted an asteroid twice the size of the Earth. That easily dwarfs a simple mountain. Now, I don't know who the Hell you've been talking to, but I've never heard anyone say that lifting that little ol' mountain was PIS for The Incredible HULK. I have, however, heard absolutely sh*t arguments before from people who have no idea what they are talking about. I once lurked on a debate of Grundy vs Hulk; and on one of the posts someone actually said, verbatim, "Well Hulk only lifts tanks and Grundy fights Superman so Grundy wins." Hard to believe, but that's what someone actually posted. But we all know that often enough, people just hate certain characters so much that they strongly wish they didn't/couldn't do certain things or beat certain people that ups the game of those characters. So, look, there comes a point where it can't be called "PIS" anymore. When Hulk first came out, sure, he wasn't lifting mountains. But the fact is, he was just never challenged to. He was, however, consistently going toe-to-toe with top-tiers with proven top-tier strength feats like Namor, Hercules, Juggernaut, and the man himself, Thor. And when Hulk stalemated Thor for over an hour in a pure test-of-strength, that immediately solidified Hulk's place in the top-tier league. I mean, after all, would it be PIS if Thor was the one that held up the mountain? Not to mention, Stan Lee created Hulk with the intention that he'd be the "strongest one there is". So as the character developed, they obviously decided to get bolder and more creative with ways to develop their definition of "top-tiers" and character development. So while it may have been an outrageous sight back then, by today's standards it a relatively low feat for Hulk. Which makes any "PIS" tag it ever had totally void and completely irrelevant.

Originally posted by Master Court

It's already been proven Doomsday is fast. It hasn't been proven that he's too fast for Hulk. Hulk has incredibly underestimated reflexes. He's been able to even catch the Silver Surfer while on his board, he's leveled countless speedsters, he's dodged attacks from fast top-tiers like Thor and Namor. He's dodged artillery shells and missiles(not that either would hurt him), he's even caught some before. Or punched it or something. Old issues, fuzzy memories. In any case, you have to prove that Doomsday is too fast for Hulk to defend against. Or prove that Hulk isn't fast enough to hit Doomsday. Just because we've seen a hundred different characters sh*tting their pants and saying "Oh, Doomsday is faster than all-f*ck!" doesn't necessarily make it so. It's fine that all the characters gave props to Doomsday. However, they were all inconsistent. And it's not like Doomsday said "This is my top speed" and a cop happened to be near by with a speed-meter to tell us all in plain f*cking English how fast he moves. But we know you don't have to be as fast as Flash, or even Superman, to hit Superman. And given that Superman has hit Doomsday, obviously, we can assume it's possible you don't have to be as fast as Superman to hit Doomsday. With Hulk's lightning reflexes and mach speed punching, I say it's utterly ridiculous to think Doomsday is gonna walk in wearing trunks and gloves and give Hulk the ol' one-two and score a first round KO.

Originally posted by carver9
Wasnt doomsday arm trapped in a stray jacket half of his 1st appearance?

Didnt it take doomsday a while to punch through a metal door?

His strength was no where NEAR enough to even make this a challenge.

Almost forgot, wasnt maxima whipping doomsday a** until Superman got in the way?

This is a none fight.

Now show me a speed feat instead of using hyperbole because if thats the case, if you want to use hyperbole then Hulk is>>>>>Doomsday in every character and should be able to just touch doomsday and make him explode.

Originally posted by carver9
He is much weaker than hulk so even if you were right, even if he'll hit him four times in the beginning of the fight, he should still get stomped. If wwh grabs him, the fight is done and I'm pretty sure wwh could get ahold of him 10 times.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ok let me explain the combo to ko principle.

One can achieve a combo to ko on another by doing the following:

1. The first hit stuns
2. The second hit stuns and is applied before then stun effect wears off from the first hit.
3. The second hit now acts as the first hit. So repeat steps 1. and 2. until ko.

If any of the first two steps fail then the victim can escape the combo and possibly make a willful move of their own.

This principle is best shown in video games like Street Fighter II. It is also shown in real life boxing and even in comics themselves.

i honestly don't see that happening. not with DOS Doomsday anyways.

Originally posted by carver9
Wasnt doomsday arm trapped in a stray jacket half of his 1st appearance?

Didnt it take doomsday a while to punch through a metal door?

His strength was no where NEAR enough to even make this a challenge.

Almost forgot, wasnt maxima whipping doomsday a** until Superman got in the way?

This is a none fight.

Now show me a speed feat instead of using hyperbole because if thats the case, if you want to use hyperbole then Hulk is>>>>>Doomsday in every character and should be able to just touch doomsday and make him explode.

maxima is also the idiot that blew up the gas station. she couldn't put doomsday down, and she wasn't hold back. when superman chose not to, he put doomsday down.

you were shown speed feats. either accept them or drop it.