Originally posted by ChakraStrings
Whoa, whoa, whoa, what's wrong with anarchists?
Nothing, but a lot of people fear/dislike anarchists for very good/very stupid reasons. Spotting an anarchist with liberals is similar to spotting a nazi with conservatives, largely expected and mostly meaningless. Liberal politics really do appeal to many anarchists and conservative politics really do appeal to many nazis.
Re: Re: Re: And it begins: The first reported case of tea bagger murder
Originally posted by KidRock
More fear mongering from the left.The liberal media is starting to feel so threatened by the new surge of conservatism in the US.
Well Darth Jello =
Also it's pretty funny your motivational poster is of a conservative wacko.
Re: Re: Re: Re: And it begins: The first reported case of tea bagger murder
Originally posted by King Kandy
I agree, it was totally just the liberal media that caused this and nothing to do with the guy taking steps to ensure people thought he was killed by anti-government activists.Also it's pretty funny your motivational poster is of a conservative wacko.
It is funny. It's funny because people with the mindset of Darth Jello probably freaked out when the truth came out that this girl did it to herself and tried to blame the Obama supporters.
Now the shoe is on the other foot and we see Darth Jello claiming, "I don't believe he killed himself!" "This cannot be possible!" blah blah blah.
The liberal hypocrisy (and hilarity) ensues.
The OP is also rather hilarious with DJ calling Hannity and Beck morons for "inciting people to violence"
Ooooh, evil tea baggers!
Given the information available when the story broke, homicide was not an unreasonable guess. All we knew was "he died, bound, with 'fed' scrawled on him". Now all these things he DID do to himself, but at the time there was no reason to suspect such a thing.
Yeah, inciting people to violence is a good thing now? Michelle Bachman did that, and it's not good at all.
At least this fellow faked an attack to get money for his family, apparently... the woman did it for no reason but to besmirch Obama.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Given the information available when the story broke, homicide was not an unreasonable guess. All we knew was "he died, bound, with 'fed' scrawled on him". Now all these things he DID do to himself, but at the time there was no reason to suspect such a thing.Yeah, inciting people to violence is a good thing now? Michelle Bachman did that, and it's not good at all.
At least this fellow faked an attack to get money for his family, apparently... the woman did it for no reason but to besmirch Obama.
Same thing with the crazy Barack woman. Given the information it wouldn't have been wrong to conclude she was attacked. But of course people like DJ assumed that there was no way the peaceful liberal Obama supporters would ever do this.
What exactly did Michelle Bachman say to incite violence? And don't be a fool of course violence isn't a good thing. But if you wanna play little games and jump to wacky conclusions then okay: So the patriots who used violence to free us from British tyranny were bad? How American of you.
Yeah, this guy is a real hero. I would say the woman's cause of attempting to prevent Obama from getting elected was much greater.
No, not really... the truth came out about her story within the day since it seemed very unlikely to police even from a first glance. This went weeks without any new info.
How about her saying that her followers should be armed and ready to resist tax raises? How is that not an incitement to violence? See the great thing about the US is we live in a DEMOCRACY. As in, we shouldn't be using violence to resolve issues, because we have votes to do that.
Using lies to damage someone's reputation is called libel and slander, and is against the law. If that's the cause you're backing, then just get out.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Sure, there maybe an idiot or two in the crowd, but that is not the reason people are there. Now to be truthful, I've never been to a tea bag rally, but I know people who have. To call them all neonazis is just wrong. That would be like calling all liberals anarchists.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I guess we could jsut as inimalist his intentions then?
I've also never been to a teabagger rally, so I really can't say for sure how involved they were. All I meant was there is allegedly a growing white power movement in the states/canada, and they have aligned themselves with some salient conservative issues to gain mainstream support.
I used immigration as an example, because it represents the best success.
For that reason it would not be surprising to see those from the white power movement at conservative political rallies, in the same way that it wouldn't be surprising to see anarchists at a liberal political rally.
Originally posted by dadudemon
inimalist, for 2 ounces of Big Bud, tell us what you meant by that...to end this debate.
pffft, stop frontin'
Originally posted by King Kandy
No, not really... the truth came out about her story within the day since it seemed very unlikely to police even from a first glance. This went weeks without any new info.How about her saying that her followers should be armed and ready to resist tax raises? How is that not an incitement to violence? See the great thing about the US is we live in a DEMOCRACY. As in, we shouldn't be using violence to resolve issues, because we have votes to do that.
Using lies to damage someone's reputation is called libel and slander, and is against the law. If that's the cause you're backing, then just get out.
You're missing the point.
Conservatives freaked out that this woman was attacked by Obama supporters..Liberals laughed and thought, "This couldn't and wouldn't happen!"
Liberals now freak out thinking Hannity, Beck and the Republicans are pressuring the tea baggers to use violence against Liberals..even going as far as to believe that these acts of violence are actually being played out.
Even when the truth comes out, they refuse to believe it.
It's just hilarious and sad.
And there is nothing wrong with using violence against tyranny, this country was created based on that.
It's a crazy stance isnt it? Almost as crazy as believing it's okay for someone to kill themselves and frame another for murder as long as it's for money.
Maybe that suicidal liberal should have..got a job.
It is no fantasy to think they are pressing for violence when Michelle Bachman actually said that her supporters should be arming themselves against Obama for his tax policy. And besides that, when did I ever say that I thought it was because of pundits, or that the suicide story is false? Only one person in the whole thread implied that, you just use the label of "liberals" to act like everyone else on this forum is likewise invalid.
Yeah, there is something wrong with using violence against tyranny... the country was created with something called VOTING specifically to AVOID that problem, by ensuring that the government followed the will of the people. And that's what happened with Obama... just because conservatives have been bitching about him, doesn't change the fact that the majority of americans preferred him to other candidates and voted accordingly. Which is likely what will happen in 2012 as well.
Ehr... he DID have a job. Or did you miss the whole "US census worker" thing that happened to be the whole POINT of the thread? As I understand it, he wanted to kill himself because he was depressed, I guess. But, he wanted to provide for his family w/ life insurance policies, which could only be claimed in case of murder. It was the murder part that was money based (and it wasn't money for himself that he wanted), not the suicide part. Which IMO is a better motive than wanting to lie to defame someone.
Originally posted by King Kandy
you just use the label of "liberals" to act like everyone else on this forum is likewise invalid.
Why is it wrong of me to classify all liberals as holding this belief but it's okay for you and the liberals to stereotype all the teabaggers as violent, racist hate mongers?
Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah, there is something wrong with using violence against tyranny... the country was created with something called VOTING specifically to AVOID that problem, by ensuring that the government followed the will of the people. And that's what happened with Obama... just because conservatives have been bitching about him, doesn't change the fact that the majority of americans preferred him to other candidates and voted accordingly. Which is likely what will happen in 2012 as well.
What is wrong with using violence against tyranny?
And no this country was not created by voting, it was created through violence.
It was created by this little thing called the Revolutionary WAR. Last I checked people were lining up and shooting each other, not lining up to vote the British out of North America.
Remember how we were all so overtaxed and overburdened that people had no choice but to resort to violence? Tea Act? Stamp Act? Ring any bells?
Originally posted by King Kandy
Which is likely what will happen in 2012 as well.
Doubtful, seeing how poorly the Democrats have fared in the past months elections and how grim their outlook is next year.
Originally posted by King Kandy
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Ehr... he DID have a job. Or did you miss the whole "US census worker" thing that happened to be the whole POINT of the thread? As I understand it, he wanted to kill himself because he was depressed, I guess. But, he wanted to provide for his family w/ life insurance policies, which could only be claimed in case of murder. It was the murder part that was money based (and it wasn't money for himself that he wanted), not the suicide part. Which IMO is a better motive than wanting to lie to defame someone.
Framing someone for murder > defaming a liar politician...well, you have had wackier beliefs in the past.
Originally posted by KidRock
Why is it wrong of me to classify all liberals as holding this belief but it's okay for you and the liberals to stereotype all the teabaggers as violent, racist hate mongers?
Originally posted by KidRock
What is wrong with using violence against tyranny?And no this country was not created by voting, it was created through violence.
It was created by this little thing called the Revolutionary WAR. Last I checked people were lining up and shooting each other, not lining up to vote the British out of North America.
Remember how we were all so overtaxed and overburdened that people had no choice but to resort to violence? Tea Act? Stamp Act? Ring any bells?
Originally posted by KidRock
Doubtful, seeing how poorly the Democrats have fared in the past months elections and how grim their outlook is next year.
Originally posted by KidRock
Framing someone for murder > defaming a liar politician...well, you have had wackier beliefs in the past.
Framing a group to provide for your family>Framing a group for no reason other than to slander that group.
Originally posted by King Kandy
OK, now you're just trolling.
Sorry you cannot handle the truth.
Originally posted by King Kandy
You misunderstood what I was saying. I wasn't saying that it was voting that created America, i'm saying when America was created, voting for the highest offices was instituted as a defense against tyranny that avoided violence.
And how was America created?
Through war and violence.
Why was there war and violence?
Because of oppressive taxes and a financial burden, the same thing you currently support.
There have been plenty of democratic governments that have become tyrannical while still keeping up the charade of having an actual democracy.
Originally posted by King KandyMaybe. Obama himself still has higher approval ratings across the board than Bush did and i haven't seen any republican hopefuls who I really think can go head to head with him yet. Maybe they'll show up later, as it's quite early in the game. People don't tend to cut presidents off after one term, it happens much more rarely so I really doubt Obama will lose his second term. But it's just speculation at this point.
Obama does not have the aura he had during his presidential campaign. This is evidence by how little people cared about his support for Corzine. Every politician in the country is full of shit, people are just realizing now Obama is no different.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I'm sure I have, if you rephrase it like that. This is what I would say:Framing a group to provide for your family>Framing a group for no reason other than to slander that group.
So putting someone away for life for murder isn't as bad as slandering the supporters of some shitbag politician?
One group gets sent to jail for life, the other gets bad names thrown at them..I wonder whats worse.
Originally posted by KidRock
Remember how we were all so overtaxed and overburdened that people had no choice but to resort to violence? Tea Act? Stamp Act? Ring any bells?
Isn't US history required in US schools?
The revolution immediately followed the lowering of taxes in the colonies. They weren't fighting against taxation, they were fighting against a government in which they had no say. America still has voting, unless that is taken away you can't cite the Revolution as justification for killing tax collectors.
Originally posted by KidRock
And how was America created?Through war and violence.
Why was there war and violence?
Because of oppressive taxes and a financial burden, the same thing you currently support.
There have been plenty of democratic governments that have become tyrannical while still keeping up the charade of having an actual democracy.
Originally posted by KidRock
So putting someone away for life for murder isn't as bad as slandering the supporters of some shitbag politician?One group gets sent to jail for life, the other gets bad names thrown at them..I wonder whats worse.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Isn't US history required in US schools?The revolution immediately followed the lowering of taxes in the colonies. They weren't fighting against taxation, they were fighting against a government in which they had no say. America still has voting, unless that is taken away you can't cite the Revolution as justification for killing tax collectors.
Wow, I take a break for a week and somebody is comparing me to that ***** who pulled a Morton Downey Jr. on Obama, huh? Like the US government doesn't have a history of false rulings/false information regarding homicides for political reasons...hmm, Inslaw (as i've stated before), Black Panthers, JFK, Geronimo Pratt, the people Erik Prince allegedly murdered that aren't being investigated, J. Edgar Hoover pressuring MLK to commit suicide, the Haymarket riot, the MLK assassination,...do I really need to go on?
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Wow, I take a break for a week and somebody is comparing me to that ***** who pulled a Morton Downey Jr. on Obama, huh? Like the US government doesn't have a history of false rulings/false information regarding homicides for political reasons...hmm, Inslaw (as i've stated before), Black Panthers, JFK, Geronimo Pratt, the people Erik Prince allegedly murdered that aren't being investigated, J. Edgar Hoover pressuring MLK to commit suicide, the Haymarket riot, the MLK assassination,...do I really need to go on?
Sounds like conspiracy theories to me.